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Crown Store Fail - A Warning
Wreuntzylla
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tl,dr version: Don't buy Dwarven Altars from the crown store thinking you can flip them over to make a huge, stone platform. It doesn't work.
I have used a variety of furniture items as building materials by turning them over or on end and merging various items together. The best so far have been the luxury vendor bases for statues, from which you can make a great flagstone flooring.
So, I see they are now selling Dwarven Altars that are huge and I am thinking YES, a way to work with the furniture cap! Make a grand stairway, flip a few of those bad boys over at the top and merge them, awesome stone platform! My goal being to make an elevated, attunable craft station Mecca above the shallow water of my expensive crown store Topal Island shoreline.
I start to do just that, buy a bunch of altars, make the staircase and then flip the first altar over. It looks GREAT after being placed and I am very happy.
Until I step onto my platform and fall... to the back of the upside down staircase with only the top of my head visible form outside of it. Not even good for hide and seek because the sidewalls keep you from moving from one altar to the other...
Is there a method to return and get a refund for fail crown store items? I think I spent $30 on them (plus some of the other dwarven platform to make a ramp up the staircase where the top of the altar pokes through).
I have used a variety of furniture items as building materials by turning them over or on end and merging various items together. The best so far have been the luxury vendor bases for statues, from which you can make a great flagstone flooring.
So, I see they are now selling Dwarven Altars that are huge and I am thinking YES, a way to work with the furniture cap! Make a grand stairway, flip a few of those bad boys over at the top and merge them, awesome stone platform! My goal being to make an elevated, attunable craft station Mecca above the shallow water of my expensive crown store Topal Island shoreline.
I start to do just that, buy a bunch of altars, make the staircase and then flip the first altar over. It looks GREAT after being placed and I am very happy.
Until I step onto my platform and fall... to the back of the upside down staircase with only the top of my head visible form outside of it. Not even good for hide and seek because the sidewalls keep you from moving from one altar to the other...
Is there a method to return and get a refund for fail crown store items? I think I spent $30 on them (plus some of the other dwarven platform to make a ramp up the staircase where the top of the altar pokes through).
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✭✭this post made me LOL, but i am actually sorry for you
Until I step onto my platform and fall... to the back of the upside down staircase with only the top of my head visible form outside of it.
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✭✭✭✭✭I think the fail was buying a bunch of them before buying a single one and testing.
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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There are other items that have no collision on the bottom and assuming something works in a way that it was not designed to be used...
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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✭✭send in a report using the /bug command in game, cross-post this to the "Bug Report Forum". Seeing as it's an art asset the art team will probably have time to fix it in a shorter timeline.1 -
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✭✭Why is it ZOS's fault you were trying to use something out of its intended purpose?3 -
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Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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✭I'm really sorry to hear what happened OP. I would suggest in the future that you utilize the Public Test Server to try out housing things before you buy them on the live server. I pretty much have a recreation of major things in my house on the public test server. Yup, I know it gets wiped from time to time.. that's not the point. If I want to do a big project for my house.. I do it first on the PTS to make sure I like how it turned out before I commit resources to it. The PTS gives you 5500 crowns you can spend at will (it refills daily), and if you make a template character.. you get tons of crafting mats, all the housing plans, and all crafting motifs. It might take extra time to do it first on the PTS, but at least for me, it's time well spent.
If you had first purchased the Dwarven alter on the PTS, you would have known pretty quickly that they didn't function as you hoped they would.. and would have saved your money.
BTW, I also purchased the Dwarven alter on the PTS and just like you, flipped it over hoping it would be a building block type of item (I was trying to make a long, large staircase), only to find I fell through the smaller stairs part underneath.. that was pretty annoying. I hope ZOS gives you your money back.. it was an unfortunate mistake, but not something ZOS shouldn't be able to reverse.4 -
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Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Why is it ZOS's fault you were trying to use something out of its intended purpose?
Why do people that have no clue as to ZoS' stance on an issue feel compelled to comment? It would take two seconds to research and you would know that ZoS not only encourages creative use of items, but rewards it...
Since you made the comment I assume you will also not know that every single screenshot at the following link shows the use of at least one item in a manner not reasonably related to what the item is.
elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2017/05/04/announcing-the-winners-of-the-eso-home-decoration-contest
There are other items that have no collision on the bottom and assuming something works in a way that it was not designed to be used...
See above for "not designed to be used."
As to the rest, every item I made or purchased prior to this one worked fine in any config. I have found one other item (imperial shrine) that has the same problem. That one looks so unbelievably cool upside down that I solved the issue by sticking an upside down well into it (because you don't fall through the bottom of wells). But if I did the same for the huge Dwarven shrines, it would take so many filler pieces, it would defeat the purpose for which I bought the darn things in the first place.Ahnastashia wrote: »I'm really sorry to hear what happened OP. I would suggest in the future that you utilize the Public Test Server to try out housing things before you buy them on the live server. I pretty much have a recreation of major things in my house on the public test server. Yup, I know it gets wiped from time to time.. that's not the point. If I want to do a big project for my house.. I do it first on the PTS to make sure I like how it turned out before I commit resources to it. The PTS gives you 5500 crowns you can spend at will (it refills daily), and if you make a template character.. you get tons of crafting mats, all the housing plans, and all crafting motifs. It might take extra time to do it first on the PTS, but at least for me, it's time well spent.
If you had first purchased the Dwarven alter on the PTS, you would have known pretty quickly that they didn't function as you hoped they would.. and would have saved your money.
BTW, I also purchased the Dwarven alter on the PTS and just like you, flipped it over hoping it would be a building block type of item (I was trying to make a long, large staircase), only to find I fell through the smaller stairs part underneath.. that was pretty annoying. I hope ZOS gives you your money back.. it was an unfortunate mistake, but not something ZOS shouldn't be able to reverse.
The only reason I use the crown store is the same reason I don't log into PTS. Time. If I had the time to test everything out, I would have the time to farm components and make the Dwarven shrines myself.
Interestingly, the people most able to afford buying whatever they want off the crown store are in most cases the people with the least time to be ZoS' beta testers.
I do appreciate the advice. Maybe I can get you to post your findings in the future, as you make them, in a thread? I would riddle you with insightfuls.
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✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Why is it ZOS's fault you were trying to use something out of its intended purpose?
Why do people that have no clue as to ZoS' stance on an issue feel compelled to comment? It would take two seconds to research and you would know that ZoS not only encourages creative use of items, but rewards it...
Since you made the comment I assume you will also not know that every single screenshot at the following link shows the use of at least one item in a manner not reasonably related to what the item is.
elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2017/05/04/announcing-the-winners-of-the-eso-home-decoration-contest
There are other items that have no collision on the bottom and assuming something works in a way that it was not designed to be used...
See above for "not designed to be used."
As to the rest, every item I made or purchased prior to this one worked fine in any config. I have found one other item (imperial shrine) that has the same problem. That one looks so unbelievably cool upside down that I solved the issue by sticking an upside down well into it (because you don't fall through the bottom of wells). But if I did the same for the huge Dwarven shrines, it would take so many filler pieces, it would defeat the purpose for which I bought the darn things in the first place.Ahnastashia wrote: »I'm really sorry to hear what happened OP. I would suggest in the future that you utilize the Public Test Server to try out housing things before you buy them on the live server. I pretty much have a recreation of major things in my house on the public test server. Yup, I know it gets wiped from time to time.. that's not the point. If I want to do a big project for my house.. I do it first on the PTS to make sure I like how it turned out before I commit resources to it. The PTS gives you 5500 crowns you can spend at will (it refills daily), and if you make a template character.. you get tons of crafting mats, all the housing plans, and all crafting motifs. It might take extra time to do it first on the PTS, but at least for me, it's time well spent.
If you had first purchased the Dwarven alter on the PTS, you would have known pretty quickly that they didn't function as you hoped they would.. and would have saved your money.
BTW, I also purchased the Dwarven alter on the PTS and just like you, flipped it over hoping it would be a building block type of item (I was trying to make a long, large staircase), only to find I fell through the smaller stairs part underneath.. that was pretty annoying. I hope ZOS gives you your money back.. it was an unfortunate mistake, but not something ZOS shouldn't be able to reverse.
The only reason I use the crown store is the same reason I don't log into PTS. Time. If I had the time to test everything out, I would have the time to farm components and make the Dwarven shrines myself.
Interestingly, the people most able to afford buying whatever they want off the crown store are in most cases the people with the least time to be ZoS' beta testers.
I do appreciate the advice. Maybe I can get you to post your findings in the future, as you make them, in a thread? I would riddle you with insightfuls.
I do understand time can be an issue. If there is a housing item you desperately need tested on the PTS, email me and I'll pop on over and see what I can do. But honestly, 10 minutes would have been all you needed (tops) to test the dwarven alter out. Pop into the PTS, purchase any house for 1 crown (does not impact your live crown amount), and then purchase your dwarven alter with PTS crowns.. flip over in new house... and poof... now you know that's not what you were really looking for.
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Maybe because solid things should be solid, the game provides the ability to rotate and place things in any orientation that one desires, and one has to pay to obtain it?ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Why is it ZOS's fault you were trying to use something out of its intended purpose?
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mystfit✭✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Why is it ZOS's fault you were trying to use something out of its intended purpose?
One of the funner parts of housing decorating is the creative use of items. Not this game as I haven't yet gotten into it very deep but my last one. We used items for the craziest things. I made a pepperoni pizza in game which was like a major bucket list item for me...a claw machine..pop corn maker..hand made aquariums, waterfalls, etc etc. Bottle sunk down to be buttons, the creativity in that is endless. Though yeah a few items had trouble when flipped (esp before the dev's humored our insanity and tried to watch for that), most help up very well. I don't think it's wrong in the slightest to do a /bug and pray they consider tweaking the collusion. Dream big!2 -
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✭As a fellow decorator, yeah, this is the sort of thing you learn the hard way. >_<
I spent a lot of time over the past weekend building walkways out of large mushrooms, and you'd be surprised how many 1) don't have collision in unexpected parts and 2) don't have solid bases, but are instead see-through from certain angles.
The plus side? Once you've been burned by this once, you don't take it for granted again. It stinks that it's such an expensive lesson for you. Hopefully a few prospective decorators will see this thread and not have to make the same mistake.Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
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✭✭Ahnastashia wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Why is it ZOS's fault you were trying to use something out of its intended purpose?
Why do people that have no clue as to ZoS' stance on an issue feel compelled to comment? It would take two seconds to research and you would know that ZoS not only encourages creative use of items, but rewards it...
Since you made the comment I assume you will also not know that every single screenshot at the following link shows the use of at least one item in a manner not reasonably related to what the item is.
elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2017/05/04/announcing-the-winners-of-the-eso-home-decoration-contest
There are other items that have no collision on the bottom and assuming something works in a way that it was not designed to be used...
See above for "not designed to be used."
As to the rest, every item I made or purchased prior to this one worked fine in any config. I have found one other item (imperial shrine) that has the same problem. That one looks so unbelievably cool upside down that I solved the issue by sticking an upside down well into it (because you don't fall through the bottom of wells). But if I did the same for the huge Dwarven shrines, it would take so many filler pieces, it would defeat the purpose for which I bought the darn things in the first place.Ahnastashia wrote: »I'm really sorry to hear what happened OP. I would suggest in the future that you utilize the Public Test Server to try out housing things before you buy them on the live server. I pretty much have a recreation of major things in my house on the public test server. Yup, I know it gets wiped from time to time.. that's not the point. If I want to do a big project for my house.. I do it first on the PTS to make sure I like how it turned out before I commit resources to it. The PTS gives you 5500 crowns you can spend at will (it refills daily), and if you make a template character.. you get tons of crafting mats, all the housing plans, and all crafting motifs. It might take extra time to do it first on the PTS, but at least for me, it's time well spent.
If you had first purchased the Dwarven alter on the PTS, you would have known pretty quickly that they didn't function as you hoped they would.. and would have saved your money.
BTW, I also purchased the Dwarven alter on the PTS and just like you, flipped it over hoping it would be a building block type of item (I was trying to make a long, large staircase), only to find I fell through the smaller stairs part underneath.. that was pretty annoying. I hope ZOS gives you your money back.. it was an unfortunate mistake, but not something ZOS shouldn't be able to reverse.
The only reason I use the crown store is the same reason I don't log into PTS. Time. If I had the time to test everything out, I would have the time to farm components and make the Dwarven shrines myself.
Interestingly, the people most able to afford buying whatever they want off the crown store are in most cases the people with the least time to be ZoS' beta testers.
I do appreciate the advice. Maybe I can get you to post your findings in the future, as you make them, in a thread? I would riddle you with insightfuls.
I do understand time can be an issue. If there is a housing item you desperately need tested on the PTS, email me and I'll pop on over and see what I can do. But honestly, 10 minutes would have been all you needed (tops) to test the dwarven alter out. Pop into the PTS, purchase any house for 1 crown (does not impact your live crown amount), and then purchase your dwarven alter with PTS crowns.. flip over in new house... and poof... now you know that's not what you were really looking for.
Thanks for the offer! I certainly will take advantage of it next time it comes up!
I am a PvE allergic PvP player. I don't fully understand the appeal of building like this... But it is what it is.
I wish I could post screenshots of some of my creations. They can be incredibly difficult to make, take a slew of different components and considerable time, and I buy or make things as inspiration strikes.
I am in the process of making my Ebonheart Chateau a Sith palace - what it would be if Sith existed in Tamriel. I know it's incredibly geeky and maybe dumb but is resulting in each section being a separate staged showpiece. I ended up moving my crafting stations to Topal (inconsistent with the Sith setting) and making a huge raised platform using upside down statue bases and upside down imperial shrines after the Dwarven shrines bombed as blocks.
The platform ended up being very high as I used all of the Dwarven shrines as a staircase to it, and when I was working up top I realized the view is magnificent. ZoS really should sell pieces that help you make these things as it reveals a whole other aspect to THEIR creations you just don't normally see. It also lends to other possibilities. I bought all the statues from the luxury vendor just because they are limited time, realized I had no use for them and stuck them out in the water as far as I could put them along the coastline, and facing in. You can barely see them from the ground, from the platform it looks really good, although slightly creepy in a horror movie kind of way. Overall, the platform ended up being too good for guild related events that it's no longer intended for the crafting stations <sigh>. Still not sure what to build for the stations.
The problem is that I have to think up ways to overcome the game's natural constraints almost constantly. For example, I wanted black or purple fire for my outdoor braziers (like the crystals used in sith light sabres) and it was two weeks before it occurred to me that if I stuck a completely unrelated component into the brazier (Hecatame skull) I would get something roughly purple. At night it looks freaking fantastic. If every time I came up with an idea I had to hop on the PTS, I would never be able to complete anything of any grandeur.
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