YES! YES! *cackle* I want all the salty elitist to have to grind for their gear all over again!

RIGHTEOUS_REPORT wrote: »

Everyone who votes 'No' just want a quick fix. They scared because they wont have the best gear anymore.

Well time to face the music because its time. Time for insanity.

Everyone who voted no has already done their grinding, including stuff like VMA. Its literally pointless to re grind the same thing.

Quick fix what? Theres nothing broken, take my advice and go run around without cp, because what your asking for will never happen. That ship sailed a long time ago.

Have you done vet maw hard mode? Or the new vet trail hard mode? Have you got the achievements for them?

Or have you just done some basic open world pve and believe your mastered pve?

Give pvp a try, it's a lot harder than pve because you can't have pre knowledge or a scripted fight and players are a lot better than mobs.

RIGHTEOUS_REPORT wrote: »

I respectfully disagree.

The only players who will moan are the grinders who spend bloody 20hours a day in the same dungeon. Screw them, the games so boring its junk items 160.

I aint playing till they raise it insanity level.

No ones going to care if you don't play.

Of course people who have worked for their gear are going to complain, it takes a long time to get good enough gear to do the actual challenging content in the game.

But hey i'm sure after completing the main pve you've got all you need from the game in terms of pve. If you want insanity go pug run vet maw.

@leepalmer95 @Absalon

But wouldn't increasing the Gear CP level actually be better for those players that have all the stuff? Give them reason to redo content, and make the game less stale for them? If you want to keep the Gear CP the same as it is, why have CP160 gear at all? Why not just have the grind for the gear be the only gate? Why Include a Grind to get to the Level needed to actually Grind for your Gear?

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@leepalmer95 @Absalon

But wouldn't increasing the Gear CP level actually be better for those players that have all the stuff? Give them reason to redo content, and make the game less stale for them? If you want to keep the Gear CP the same as it is, why have CP160 gear at all? Why not just have the grind for the gear be the only gate? Why Include a Grind to get to the Level needed to actually Grind for your Gear?

No one enjoys grinding gear, its more of a chore. The content will still be stale the only difference is that they'll be forced to grind gear they've already grinded once for no actual reason apart from a slight increase in stats. Whats the point? That'll kill the game off completely for most end game people.

We have cp 160 gear because of progression, cp 160 is the end game gear and we're lucky its reachable so easily. Despite it being end game gear its not end game level.Its a mmo you don't just get max gear or max characters you have to work towards it. Why are you looking at getting to cp160 as a grind, its just progression as you play the game when your new.

If you want a game without grinding, where everything is unlocked straight away then MOBA's are for you.

I will uninstall the game the same day that happens.

@leepalmer95

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@leepalmer95 @Absalon

But wouldn't increasing the Gear CP level actually be better for those players that have all the stuff? Give them reason to redo content, and make the game less stale for them? If you want to keep the Gear CP the same as it is, why have CP160 gear at all? Why not just have the grind for the gear be the only gate? Why Include a Grind to get to the Level needed to actually Grind for your Gear?

No one enjoys grinding gear, its more of a chore. The content will still be stale the only difference is that they'll be forced to grind gear they've already grinded once for no actual reason apart from a slight increase in stats. Whats the point? That'll kill the game off completely for most end game people.

We have cp 160 gear because of progression, cp 160 is the end game gear and we're lucky its reachable so easily. Despite it being end game gear its not end game level.Its a mmo you don't just get max gear or max characters you have to work towards it. Why are you looking at getting to cp160 as a grind, its just progression as you play the game when your new.

If you want a game without grinding, where everything is unlocked straight away then MOBA's are for you.

So, you want gear to be included in level progression, but you don't want it to be included in end-game level progression?

This is the thing: If I get a cool set that works well on a sorc, but I don't have a sorc, In order to test this gear I've got to create a new character and grind to level 50. So, testing this small thing well, just this gear, means I have to create a whole new character.

Do you think this is easily done by people who have little time? Is this a good business model for Zenimax?

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Raising the gear cap would not allow for any vertical progression due to scaling. It would be entirely pointless.

@MLGProPlayer

then why the hell is gear level a thing.

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@leepalmer95

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@leepalmer95 @Absalon

But wouldn't increasing the Gear CP level actually be better for those players that have all the stuff? Give them reason to redo content, and make the game less stale for them? If you want to keep the Gear CP the same as it is, why have CP160 gear at all? Why not just have the grind for the gear be the only gate? Why Include a Grind to get to the Level needed to actually Grind for your Gear?

No one enjoys grinding gear, its more of a chore. The content will still be stale the only difference is that they'll be forced to grind gear they've already grinded once for no actual reason apart from a slight increase in stats. Whats the point? That'll kill the game off completely for most end game people.

We have cp 160 gear because of progression, cp 160 is the end game gear and we're lucky its reachable so easily. Despite it being end game gear its not end game level.Its a mmo you don't just get max gear or max characters you have to work towards it. Why are you looking at getting to cp160 as a grind, its just progression as you play the game when your new.

If you want a game without grinding, where everything is unlocked straight away then MOBA's are for you.

So, you want gear to be included in level progression, but you don't want it to be included in end-game level progression?

This is the thing: If I get a cool set that works well on a sorc, but I don't have a sorc, In order to test this gear I've got to create a new character and grind to level 50. So, testing this small thing well, just this gear, means I have to create a whole new character.

Do you think this is easily done by people who have little time? Is this a good business model for Zenimax?

You don't have to do anything.

If your pick up a piece of gear that doesn't work well with your character you don't use it. Its that simple, if its rare you bank it on the off chance you find a use for it in the future.

Why would you test something you have no current use for.

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@leepalmer95

So you'd prefer it to be more on rails? (I am this, therefore this is all I'll do)

If you max a character and start another, are you not annoyed that in order to try a new approach you have to re-grind (1-50) in order to be able to grind yet again (getting the gear)?

Thats what you sign up for when you play an MMO.

If you want another character you've got to put the same amount of work in to get it end game like your previous.

Its boring and annoying but i've done it 8 times, 9 soon. Its just part of the game.

RIGHTEOUS_REPORT wrote: »

Notice all the big boys here straight up downvoting.

As I say no doubt they don't want to get new gear. That's BS.

I'll install the game again when ZM raises the gear level to 600+.

Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact... same *** thing... over and over again expecting... *** to change... That. Is. Crazy.

This game right now will drive you insane. I ain't doing the same F$%&ing thing over and over expect *** to change.

But there won't be any new gear.

Whats your literally suggesting is that raise gear therefore increasing its stats which you would then need to get to kill the harder mobs.

So you'd regrind your gear, again, in order to get the higher gear in order to kill the higher mobs and be in the exact same position as you are in now. You''d have higher stats, mobs would be harder, nothing will change.

Contradicting yourself in a post isn't a good way to follow up your definition of insanity. Are you even reading what your typing?