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What have you done to Molag Bal...
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For good memories sake I did the final battle vs Molag Bal tonight as I remember how tough the fight was in 2014 - and how gratifying when you did finally beat him.
I was thoroughly disappointed. You can light attack him to surrender in under 2 minutes. That's totally anticlimactic and not the great fight it's supposed to be at the end of the story line. Please restore the old skeever to his former glory!
Edited by Feanor on June 16, 2017 10:39PM I was thoroughly disappointed. You can light attack him to surrender in under 2 minutes. That's totally anticlimactic and not the great fight it's supposed to be at the end of the story line. Please restore the old skeever to his former glory!
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DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Assuming you have high CP, you are much more powerful than you were in 2014, even if everything else is equal.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub7 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It was on a level 42 alt with level 36 training gear and no CP spent at all. CP is not the issue for a change. It's that the fight has been nerfed to the ground.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.12 -
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✭✭✭DeadlyRecluse wrote: »Assuming you have high CP, you are much more powerful than you were in 2014, even if everything else is equal.
Nope. I have defeated Molag Bal at the beginning of the game at it was epic (not the best mechanics, just somewhat hard to pull out consistently).
Well before CP was introduced, I have defeated him 2 other times and it was already in "wet noodle, extra-nerfed" mode.Vaerah, Dark Elf Magicka Sorceress
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DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It was on a level 42 alt with level 36 training gear and no CP spent at all. CP is not the issue for a change. It's that the fight has been nerfed to the ground.
Yep, then it's just the nerfs lol.
(I haven't tried doing it without allocating CP, so I was just spitballing--with CP enabled he drops insanely fast).Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub0 -
Hallothiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yep. Thought the same when I did it yesterday - but originally I was doing it as a level 40-something with no cp at all so yeah, was much harder than doing it on my nearly max level cp toon!0 -
RIGHTEOUS_REPORT✭✭✭The whole game is too easy. Noob level.
Looks like a degenerate hack n slash now days.11 -
Adernath✭✭✭✭✭RIGHTEOUS_REPORT wrote: »The whole game is too easy. Noob level.
Looks like a degenerate hack n slash now days.
Exactly, and I hope that the difficulty will get increased in a moderate manner for overland mobs and more reasonably for solo-bosses including Molag Bal.2 -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭On my 4th main, i did the final battle butt naked (I have the screenshots to prove it).
My char was around level 45 and no CP.
So yeah, he got nerfed hard, more like Molag No Balls ...
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Keldheir✭✭✭✭Was that fight ever tough? In 2014 I went in with completely broken armor and the wrong weapons that were several level below mine - didn't realize it was the final mission. Bal didn't hit me once and he went down in no time.
I fought him again not too long ago, this time with the right armor and it was pretty much the same. Molag Bal is extremely weak and pretictable. He should be the toughest boss in the game but he's pretty much on par with a quest mini boss with slightly more health.PC EU1 -
Chadak✭✭✭✭✭In a main story fight you cannot avoid to complete the story, the difficulty should be rather low so that even the less skillful players can probably beat it.
The difficulty you are seeking is in another castle, Mario.3 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have packed him up solo in ICP..... Mola bal rage mailed me I told him to gitgud1 -
lagrue✭✭✭✭✭
✭Always been an easy fight - but you're also forgetting the fact that you're now scaled to CP160 by default because of One Tamriel.
Molag Bal wasn't nerfed - newbie players were buffed. The solution would be to buff Molag Bal as well - they just never did, for some reason.
Then again - I'm sure the majority of players, myself included - don't want PVE to become Dark Souls level difficulty.Edited by lagrue on June 16, 2017 11:49PM"You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"6 -
mesmerizedish✭✭✭✭✭Was that fight ever tough? In 2014 I went in with completely broken armor and the wrong weapons that were several level below mine - didn't realize it was the final mission. Bal didn't hit me once and he went down in no time.
I fought him again not too long ago, this time with the right armor and it was pretty much the same. Molag Bal is extremely weak and pretictable. He should be the toughest boss in the game but he's pretty much on par with a quest mini boss with slightly more health.
This has been my experience. I finished the main quest with my main character three years ago, had exactly zero trouble with Molag Bal, and I had no idea how to play the game XD Finally finished the MQ for the second time a few weeks ago, and Molag Bal was just as easy.0 -
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✭Hmm, I haven't done the main questline since late 2014, but I remember it being easy, especially compared to the Mannimarco fight. Perhaps you've merely improved as a player?With cold regards,
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KeiruNicrom✭✭✭✭✭Solo instanced quests should have a hard mode setting in general imo. Set to vet mode in the party menu and bring back some superb difficulty to the main quests. More enemies, more health on them too, harder hitting, hell maybe even add some new mechanics to the boss fights like having to grab shards of meridias power during the molag bal boss fight and toss it at him.2 -
RIGHTEOUS_REPORT✭✭✭Exactly.
Why do we have to bloody nerf ourselves I didn't even spend any CP points for ages, I only spent them recently because some maggot wanted to duel.
I said ''I haven't spent my champion points yet I don't want to the game is noob''
The guy were like ''WTF are you doing''?
When's the insanity patch out ZM?Edited by RIGHTEOUS_REPORT on June 17, 2017 12:57AM1 -
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✭Yeah. I found the Mannimarco fight a LOT harder than Molag Bal, although the Molag Bal fight was pretty epic. I wonder if they nerfed Mannimarco also as I'm getting ready to do that quest line with my shiny new warden.
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Sylinias✭I just did this fight *with a nightblade* and holy crap, he went down like a bi*ch!! Can you day *major* nerf? Back in 2014 this guy was the fight that kept me up for a week trying out how to kill him!0
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Dracindo✭✭✭✭✭Personally, I would like the following to happen:
The first time you face him, he remains as easy as he is, for completionist sake.
But for every other character you create, he should be significantly harder.
That's one run for seeing the end of the story and all other runs for a more challenging solo experience.
Because when I'm facing a final boss, I expect to give it everything I got, using potions aplenty!Edited by Dracindo on June 20, 2017 2:26PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It was on a level 42 alt with level 36 training gear and no CP spent at all. CP is not the issue for a change. It's that the fight has been nerfed to the ground.
You have CP but didnt allocate any of it on that character? I highly doubt you just did light attacks in under 2 minutes.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭Just for curiosity, has anyone worked out how much damage you're doing with the fully charged Amulet of Kings in that battle? I remember I was one-shotting Daedroth or whatever they were, and MB has 6.7million HP.PC NA, PC EU
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Bringer✭✭✭It wouldn't surprise me, there are people in this game who do nothing but light bow attack. Quests apparently have to be balanced around them. Instead of the sensible thing and using story quests to train people at least fundamental ideas like... using skills, they just nerf difficulty.2 -
faerigirl✭✭✭✭I finished the harborage quests 2 days ago on my level 20/21 magsorc, no CP.
It was easy.0 -
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✭✭I wish they would make instanced quests harder, especially bosses like Molag freakin' Bal."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
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Uviryth✭✭✭✭✭Oh please, he was always a pushover. I remember doing him the first week after release and thinking "thats it? really? come on!"1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I was fortunate to do the MQ before it was nerfed into the ground in late 2014. Although I did not feel fortunate at the time it was a tough series of battles. I then ignore the MQ for a while as I do with TES games. I was surprised at how easy it was back before Vet levels were removed, but when the instanced quests were scaled. But it still felt like somewhat of an accomplishment.
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✭✭the main story needs to be pathetically easy to accomodate players who are dedicated to being bad at the game under the guise of "play how you want to play"skingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
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✭✭RIGHTEOUS_REPORT wrote: »The whole game is too easy. Noob level.
Looks like a degenerate hack n slash now days.
Exactly, and I hope that the difficulty will get increased in a moderate manner for overland mobs and more reasonably for solo-bosses including Molag Bal.
BHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Good luck, mate.
Difficulty isn't going anywhere.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I feel as though ZOS replaced "actual" Molag Bal with the "Simulacrum" of Molag Bal that you find at the base of the White Gold Tower in the Imperial City Sewers.
That molag bal is much harder, more devastating than main story line.
and its on purpose. World Boss v Single player story mode boss.
Therefore: the criticisms on how easy it is, seems unfounded and unfair. so what if story mode MB is easy? you do realize that completeing story mode is like 2.15% into the game right? that there is so much more and much harder challenges.
Im honestly a little disappointed in some of these comments that this game is "so easy" and "ESO is a degenerate hack n slash" when so many people are struggling with their first time in vDSA and vRoM. I know some top 1% endgame players still struggling to clear vRoM no death for their amberplasm skin. and youre going to say eso is easy? Disgusting.RickterESO
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✭✭✭I always said and thought that the final Molag Bal fight should be on the same level or harder than Maelstrom Arena. Especially from a lore point of view.
Technically he has one more fight at the centre of the imperal city sewers though and that would be tough to solo considering hes stronger, the adds and gankers lol0
