which you can only get via Crown purchase (not free to subs)
which you can only get via Crown purchase (not free to subs)
Whoops, you lost me.
ShedsHisTail wrote: »which you can only get via Crown purchase (not free to subs)
Whoops, you lost me.
The reason I wrote that is just because, comparatively speaking, it'd be a very small add on to the game (just a few quests) with significant purpose aside from being something to do. Even the rewards are simply cosmetic. For all intents and purposes, it's a cosmetic addition; just the aesthetic you're purchasing is literary (the story) as opposed to visual (mounts, costumes, etc.).
It would have no bearing on the larger story of ESO, and no real impact on game play. I see no reason anyone should get it for free when we all have to pay for cosmetics, subscription or no. Whatever the case, that's really ZOS's call, not mine.
ShedsHisTail wrote: »which you can only get via Crown purchase (not free to subs)
Whoops, you lost me.
The reason I wrote that is just because, comparatively speaking, it'd be a very small add on to the game (just a few quests) with significant purpose aside from being something to do. Even the rewards are simply cosmetic. For all intents and purposes, it's a cosmetic addition; just the aesthetic you're purchasing is literary (the story) as opposed to visual (mounts, costumes, etc.).
It would have no bearing on the larger story of ESO, and no real impact on game play. I see no reason anyone should get it for free when we all have to pay for cosmetics, subscription or no. Whatever the case, that's really ZOS's call, not mine.
If it's a story, then it's content (not just cosmetics). I still don't see any benefit in excluding subs, unless you enjoy it when the forums implode.
Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Hasn't Stibbons suffered enough?
Surprised I didn't find that duo in the new update.
ShedsHisTail wrote: »which you can only get via Crown purchase (not free to subs)
Whoops, you lost me.
The reason I wrote that is just because, comparatively speaking, it'd be a very small add on to the game (just a few quests) with significant purpose aside from being something to do. Even the rewards are simply cosmetic. For all intents and purposes, it's a cosmetic addition; just the aesthetic you're purchasing is literary (the story) as opposed to visual (mounts, costumes, etc.).
It would have no bearing on the larger story of ESO, and no real impact on game play. I see no reason anyone should get it for free when we all have to pay for cosmetics, subscription or no. Whatever the case, that's really ZOS's call, not mine.
The_Undefined wrote: »So.. you want to take even more content that should be available within the game upon purchase as a separate extra charge? Seriously, what is up with this idea of taking content out of the game and selling it separately? There should be quests released with content updates, not charged separately...
Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Hasn't Stibbons suffered enough?
Surprised I didn't find that duo in the new update.
@Giles.floydub17_ESO
You just have not looked hard enough.....
ShedsHisTail wrote: »One of the things I've always wanted to see up on the Crown Store is quest packs. [SNIP, to keep y'all from getting distracted]
And what better way to introduce such a feature than with a Lady Clarrise Laurent quest pack. Just a pack of like five solo-only delves, ramped up to like old VR-Zone difficulty (or scalable difficulty), with a connected story told through the lens of Lady Clarrise Laurent and her loyal servant Stibbons. Pack them with challenging bosses, complex puzzles and traps; make them like the Maelstrom Arena of delves with unique drops (nothing OP, I'm thinking like motifs or furniture or something) with a unique reward for completing all five... Perhaps a summonable Stibbons assistant that does... something. Or maybe just one big delve, just a big interior zone like a dwemer ruin or something; the hunt for the MacGuffin.
Make it repeatable, so you can try to beat your own time (or grind mats for the unique motif or whatever), or test your build in a combat setting as opposed to against the target dummy. Sort of like the Thief's Guild or Dark Brotherhood dailies, but with less restriction on how you complete it.
I'd just really like to see a little more content tied to some of these items we can just purchase from the Crown store. I know that I, personally, would be more inclined to buy a unique mount or costume or whatever if it came with some actual game-play involved as opposed to just showing up in my Collections menu. I would absolutely -love- to have quest packs available.
The_Undefined wrote: »So.. you want to take even more content that should be available within the game upon purchase as a separate extra charge? Seriously, what is up with this idea of taking content out of the game and selling it separately? There should be quests released with content updates, not charged separately...
ShedsHisTail wrote: »which you can only get via Crown purchase (not free to subs)
Whoops, you lost me.
The reason I wrote that is just because, comparatively speaking, it'd be a very small add on to the game (just a few quests) with significant purpose aside from being something to do. Even the rewards are simply cosmetic. For all intents and purposes, it's a cosmetic addition; just the aesthetic you're purchasing is literary (the story) as opposed to visual (mounts, costumes, etc.).
It would have no bearing on the larger story of ESO, and no real impact on game play. I see no reason anyone should get it for free when we all have to pay for cosmetics, subscription or no. Whatever the case, that's really ZOS's call, not mine.
If it's a story, then it's content (not just cosmetics). I still don't see any benefit in excluding subs, unless you enjoy it when the forums implode.
leepalmer95 wrote: »New content should only really be in dlc's
Crown store is mainly cosmetic with a few consumables.
ShedsHisTail wrote: »The_Undefined wrote: »So.. you want to take even more content that should be available within the game upon purchase as a separate extra charge? Seriously, what is up with this idea of taking content out of the game and selling it separately? There should be quests released with content updates, not charged separately...
It cannot be "available within the game upon purchase" if it's not -in the game at the time of purchase-.
But how this theoretical, doesn't-actually-even-exist-yet-so-why-are-we-discussing-payment content gets delivered isn't my call one way or the other. That's not what I wanted to talk about.
I wanted to talk about how it would be cool to get little infusions of extra quests and lore which we can choose whether or not to download just like we can costumes and mounts and furniture an crap. Why not make it a full DLC? Because I don't think little ones and twosie quests here and there are big enough for ZOS to be releasing them and going, "There you go, guys. These five single-player delves are your DLC for the next six months"
But, you know, having a new set of little quests dropped into the game, or rotated through the Crown Store or whatever every few weeks seems fine to me. All I want is additional, more novel, content which might not be large enough or thematically appropriate to be included in a standard DLC. I mean, you know ZOS has a whole stack of quest scripts sitting on the cutting room floor that got cut for some reason or another.
How it gets delivered to us doesn't matter to me. Clearly this is a hot button issue for people, but I seriously could not care less.
I like the idea of NPC-driven content. There are a lot of neat characters I'd like to see more of. So I wouldn't be against seeing this happen.
Sadly for me Clarisse and Stibbons were both extremely annoying though so I'd take a personal pass on this one
Nyghthowler wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »The_Undefined wrote: »So.. you want to take even more content that should be available within the game upon purchase as a separate extra charge? Seriously, what is up with this idea of taking content out of the game and selling it separately? There should be quests released with content updates, not charged separately...
It cannot be "available within the game upon purchase" if it's not -in the game at the time of purchase-.
But how this theoretical, doesn't-actually-even-exist-yet-so-why-are-we-discussing-payment content gets delivered isn't my call one way or the other. That's not what I wanted to talk about.
I wanted to talk about how it would be cool to get little infusions of extra quests and lore which we can choose whether or not to download just like we can costumes and mounts and furniture an crap. Why not make it a full DLC? Because I don't think little ones and twosie quests here and there are big enough for ZOS to be releasing them and going, "There you go, guys. These five single-player delves are your DLC for the next six months"
But, you know, having a new set of little quests dropped into the game, or rotated through the Crown Store or whatever every few weeks seems fine to me. All I want is additional, more novel, content which might not be large enough or thematically appropriate to be included in a standard DLC. I mean, you know ZOS has a whole stack of quest scripts sitting on the cutting room floor that got cut for some reason or another.
How it gets delivered to us doesn't matter to me. Clearly this is a hot button issue for people, but I seriously could not care less.
I bought Morrowind because I wanted it. Was I happy about the price; Hell NO. But I purchased it because it is a business, and that's how it was marketed.
At the same time, I am a subscriber. Part of that entails access to all new content with the cost of my subscription. I'm not going to quibble over the difference between a DLC, an Expansion, and a Chapter; it's already been beat to death on these forums.
But for F'ing love of the Divines and the Daedra OP, stop encouraging them to lock more stuff in the cash shop/Gambling crates!