F7sus4 wrote: »

Your ideas sound nice to all people bored to death with RNG god (me including). But as a pro-trader I also must say that your ideas would totally and utterly ruin the marketplace as a whole.

@F7sus4 So easy fix here is make it only work on BoP items.

Nothing taken from the marketplace that way, but a bit less painful for every other bound set out there.

OP, I like the overall idea and the implementation sounds like it would fit well.

I think it should be a % chance to return the shard or % chance to craft the piece (per shard) just like normal crafting/upgrading is. Want to up the odds of success, decon more combos for more shards.

For those arguing it's the nature of the game, I'd agree if it wasn't for the fact that sets long since acquired get hit so hard they essentially become no longer viable from major patch to major patch.

If you're updating gear on a max level alt, it should be because that gear provides some new functionality, not because the gear you've already grinded, upgraded, enchanted, and golded out is suddenly little more than a doorstop.

Gear should supplement the builds. It shouldn't make them.

the fact you have grinded this is the fact why they won't make rng better,keep jumping through the hoops they'll give you more/smaller hoops to jump through,thats how mmo's work now,like you have some immortal avatar that plays,not a mortal flesh and bones real person that has at best 80 yrs of time to play with,go use that time better

Pr0Skygon wrote: »

@eso_nya And that's why I'd not even bother with Twice Fang Serpent, and be happy with my Spriggan set

This right here... so much easier to just farm/buy overland sets than dungeon/trial sets. At least I dont have to rely on a group to sit at a dolmen/WB/delve for hours to farm a few divines pieces LOL

Pr0Skygon wrote: »

@Smasherx74 If you're in multiple end game vet trial guilds like me, you'll know how competitive we're in min max dps parse. Like I said, I can just make a 5 piece set of Julianos, do some pledges to get a llmabris sets and do some random normal dungeons for a full set of Willpower jewelry, then make 2 random Lightning staves and wala, my MagSorc can go beat vAA with my crew. But if you want to get into the leaderboard, or even have a chance to finish vMOL or vHOF, I'd better go farm that Darkshade Cavern for Netch Touch, some vet trials for IA jewelry and get 2 Maelstrom Lightning Staves.

Wala? No. Just...No.

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Hi guys
Sorry for not reading any reply lately, I either was just too busy with works (no I stopped my grinding fest, just daily writs for now), or just plain forgot about it

Just want to tease some news for you guys. I've spammed this thread like crazy on other forum with tons of positive and supports from many many players. Till the point that ZOS has just send me a message, saying that "We've heard your opinion, now stfu".

Thank you for supporting my thread. Have never thought my little idea can become the voice for so many of you guys.

And when I mean "little idea", I literally mean it, it only took me about 5 - 10 mins to came up with this idea. Which means, if ZOS really wants to, or someone in ZOS just raise up their hands, and say "we need some work on our RNG bs", then life would have been a lot easier for us gamer. But then again, ZOS isn't someone who just spoil their players with features too far ahead, they've learned it from the spellcrafting announcement (nothing new coming from ZOS since early 2016 about this).

Also, I'd love to have a little note to anyone who still think that "The game is fine now, the rng is fine, this is fine, I love the game". Yes, me too, I love ESO. But loving doesn't mean I have to support or agree on everything that ZOS implemented into the game.

Always remember guys: THE GAME SERVES US, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. ESO was meant to give us joy, quality time for ourselves, and share it with everyone else in our community. WE DO NOT SERVE THE GAME. We do not have to accept 100% with the games. If somethings annoy you in ESO, simply avoid it and warn everyone else. If something annoy a tons of your friends, guildmates and basicly the majority of the community, you make a thread and tell ZOS to make changes to the game, and if you do, make it big. So let's make it big guys! ZOS has already heard us, so now let's make them agree with us. There're many things have been changed due to community uproar (and next up is transmorg, ZOS has already confirmed it). SO LET'S NEVER STFU GUYS!

@tunepunk Grinding is the basic of MMO, but at some extense, grinding can be fun. I actually really enjoy making new alt, it's like felling in love with ESO all over again. I have my own way of grinding gold for 1 hour a day for 50K gold, and I enjoy it.

Grinding isn't the point of this thread, but the horrible RNG base loot system. Sure there will be a time when you have had everything you need, then you look back at the time you've spent grinding and regret ever spent time for it. But for the time right now for me and a lot of players who has reached end game, we find ourselve regret, and frankly, horrified by the time we spent dealing with RNG god for gears.

@Make2k15 Yeah absolutely right, I was quite forgiving when came up with that idea.
But imo, I'd rather increase the required set gear to get a shard, rather than putting any RNG base mechanic in this system (since all that we want in a token system is to avoid RNG in the first place). Maybe 15 pieces of the same set rather than 5?