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  • SilverWF
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    Idk I guess Ill never understand people who would rather get 1 ruby ash wood than ease someones struggle.
    Probably, my comment would be deleted with another warning, but I call ppl acting like this are jerks or even worse.
    As for me, I'm asking for gear always (I have a lot of alts and they all still need some pieces of sets) and if someone agree to give item to me I'll always trade it for another same quality item. Always.
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • EvilCroc
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    EvilCroc wrote: »
    1. Nothing in abbreviation "MMO" means I should interact with other players when I do not want to.
    2. Any "trade demand" is an act of interaction I did not ask for. If I will want to trade I will link my items in chat. That's invitation to trading, nothing else. Why should I think about response why I do not want to trade with somebody? This is natural to do not want to trade with strangers. Otherwise I will link items blah, blah, blah.
    3. I deconstruct items I do not need. If they are treasures for somebody it is even more enjoying. Farm harder for them, not my problems. Gold means nothing in this game anyway. I was farming for my gear and never asked for loot sharing. (And I have disabled the part of LUI Extended which allows you to see group loot).

    "MMO" means "Massively Multiplayer Online" and that acronym applies to games.
    Let me put this in a more detailed way :
    - "Massively" means that you get to play not only with friends but also with strangers
    - "Multiplayer" means that you get to interact with people and that they get to interact with you, whether you've asked for it or not.
    - "Online"... well, irrelevant here, it's just what makes the "Massively" and the "Multiplayer" possible
    - and, last but not least, "Game". Which means that people are there to have fun and relax.

    While none of it strictly implies that you MUST interact with others if you don't want to, it allows nonetheless other people to TRY and interact with you without your prior approval. They don't deserve to be treated badly (and ignoring is quite an agressive response) just for talking to you.

    You're of course entitled to be who you are and to play how you want, even to enjoy other people's frustrations. There are people like that. However, I wonder if you wouldn't be better off in a bunker with 6-months food stocks and a copy of Skyrim and The Witcher 3. They're both amazing games, with guaranteed NO INTERACTION whatsoever with that major annoyance called "other people" ;-)



    1."Multiplayer" just means "not single player". Nothing about interaction. Other conjectures are wrong.
    3. And stop speaking like loot-looking addons are natural part of the game please. They are not. Completely not. And users of this kind of addons deserve to be treated badly.
    3. If I can make comfortable environment in multiplayer game by ignoring unpleasant people why should I go back to old singleplayer games? The amount of loot-lookers is low anyway. At least most of them are polite enough to not to ask for loot by whispering.
    4. Until TESVI will be released I'll stay here anyway.

    Dungeon loot sharing was created for sharing loot with friends, not strangers in PUG.
  • SilverWF
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    EvilCroc wrote: »
    Dungeon loot sharing was created for sharing loot with friends, not strangers in PUG.
    It's not written anywere, so deal with it.
    Or play with friends only - do you with your attitude have any?
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    EvilCroc wrote: »
    EvilCroc wrote: »
    1. Nothing in abbreviation "MMO" means I should interact with other players when I do not want to.
    2. Any "trade demand" is an act of interaction I did not ask for. If I will want to trade I will link my items in chat. That's invitation to trading, nothing else. Why should I think about response why I do not want to trade with somebody? This is natural to do not want to trade with strangers. Otherwise I will link items blah, blah, blah.
    3. I deconstruct items I do not need. If they are treasures for somebody it is even more enjoying. Farm harder for them, not my problems. Gold means nothing in this game anyway. I was farming for my gear and never asked for loot sharing. (And I have disabled the part of LUI Extended which allows you to see group loot).

    "MMO" means "Massively Multiplayer Online" and that acronym applies to games.
    Let me put this in a more detailed way :
    - "Massively" means that you get to play not only with friends but also with strangers
    - "Multiplayer" means that you get to interact with people and that they get to interact with you, whether you've asked for it or not.
    - "Online"... well, irrelevant here, it's just what makes the "Massively" and the "Multiplayer" possible
    - and, last but not least, "Game". Which means that people are there to have fun and relax.

    While none of it strictly implies that you MUST interact with others if you don't want to, it allows nonetheless other people to TRY and interact with you without your prior approval. They don't deserve to be treated badly (and ignoring is quite an agressive response) just for talking to you.

    You're of course entitled to be who you are and to play how you want, even to enjoy other people's frustrations. There are people like that. However, I wonder if you wouldn't be better off in a bunker with 6-months food stocks and a copy of Skyrim and The Witcher 3. They're both amazing games, with guaranteed NO INTERACTION whatsoever with that major annoyance called "other people" ;-)



    1."Multiplayer" just means "not single player". Nothing about interaction. Other conjectures are wrong..

    How about Group? What does that imply? You know what you have to do to actually get this addon to work? Does grouping some how imply that you are willing to communicate with other players and work towards a common goal. Or am I reading to much into the group feature?
    Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on June 14, 2017 1:38PM
  • Zalicius
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    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.

  • SilverWF
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    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • Zalicius
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.

    I'm not antisocial. I just don't like greedy people. That's exactly what it is. A tool for greedy people.
  • Aisle9
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    EvilCroc wrote: »
    EvilCroc wrote: »
    1. Nothing in abbreviation "MMO" means I should interact with other players when I do not want to.
    2. Any "trade demand" is an act of interaction I did not ask for. If I will want to trade I will link my items in chat. That's invitation to trading, nothing else. Why should I think about response why I do not want to trade with somebody? This is natural to do not want to trade with strangers. Otherwise I will link items blah, blah, blah.
    3. I deconstruct items I do not need. If they are treasures for somebody it is even more enjoying. Farm harder for them, not my problems. Gold means nothing in this game anyway. I was farming for my gear and never asked for loot sharing. (And I have disabled the part of LUI Extended which allows you to see group loot).

    "MMO" means "Massively Multiplayer Online" and that acronym applies to games.
    Let me put this in a more detailed way :
    - "Massively" means that you get to play not only with friends but also with strangers
    - "Multiplayer" means that you get to interact with people and that they get to interact with you, whether you've asked for it or not.
    - "Online"... well, irrelevant here, it's just what makes the "Massively" and the "Multiplayer" possible
    - and, last but not least, "Game". Which means that people are there to have fun and relax.

    While none of it strictly implies that you MUST interact with others if you don't want to, it allows nonetheless other people to TRY and interact with you without your prior approval. They don't deserve to be treated badly (and ignoring is quite an agressive response) just for talking to you.

    You're of course entitled to be who you are and to play how you want, even to enjoy other people's frustrations. There are people like that. However, I wonder if you wouldn't be better off in a bunker with 6-months food stocks and a copy of Skyrim and The Witcher 3. They're both amazing games, with guaranteed NO INTERACTION whatsoever with that major annoyance called "other people" ;-)



    1."Multiplayer" just means "not single player". Nothing about interaction. Other conjectures are wrong.

    The chat is part of the game, along with other social tools, like Group Finder, Friendlists, etc, therefore user interactions are indeed part of the game.

    EvilCroc wrote: »
    3. And stop speaking like loot-looking addons are natural part of the game please. They are not. Completely not. And users of this kind of addons deserve to be treated badly.

    They are because the API provided by the development team for mod creators allow it. It's not a 3rd party software. It is literally part of the game.

    Also, treating badly a fellow player for using game tools (the API are game tools, btw) is:
    a) A socially inacceptable behavior
    b) Against the terms of service

    EvilCroc wrote: »
    3. If I can make comfortable environment in multiplayer game by ignoring unpleasant people why should I go back to old singleplayer games? The amount of loot-lookers is low anyway. At least most of them are polite enough to not to ask for loot by whispering.
    4. Until TESVI will be released I'll stay here anyway.

    Dungeon loot sharing was created for sharing loot with friends, not strangers in PUG.

    You are wrong, loot sharing was created for sharing loot with teammates, that is why you can't share it with people in your friendlist, but only with people in your group.

    Sadly for your argument, that includes a PUG (Pick Up Group).

    Try again

    Edited by Aisle9 on June 14, 2017 1:43PM
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    #SpellswordArmy
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    In the Game of PuGs you win or you ragequit

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  • Feanor
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    Zalicius wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.

    I'm not antisocial. I just don't like greedy people. That's exactly what it is. A tool for greedy people.

    I'm not unintelligent. But the day becomes just so much easier in a black and white world.
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    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.

    As a healer do you also drop group when DD stand in stupid. Sure maybe you can heal them and it makes no real issue. But it is also crappy to come into a dungeon and expect others to carry you to the end.
  • LadyNalcarya
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    Idk I guess Ill never understand people who would rather get 1 ruby ash wood than ease someones struggle.
    Probably, my comment would be deleted with another warning, but I call ppl acting like this are jerks or even worse.
    As for me, I'm asking for gear always (I have a lot of alts and they all still need some pieces of sets) and if someone agree to give item to me I'll always trade it for another same quality item. Always.

    Welp, I guess I'm a horrible person for helping many guildies and people I pugged with. :(
    But for me, saving someone from grind is more valuable than a decon item. I usually end up with full bags any time I do pledges, so it doesnt really matter.
    However, many people in pugs were offering gold for divine items, I gave them away for free, but its not like people are ungrateful and rude. Most of them arent, anyway. Its just... One of the things that make the community a bit better, in my opinion.
    Also, I was replying to a certain comment, and that person stated that they would rather decon valuable item than give it away. Of course, if you got an item you need, you cant be forced to give it to anyone, and any sensible person would understand that.
    Edited by LadyNalcarya on June 14, 2017 1:52PM
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  • Qbiken
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    Zalicius wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.

    I'm not antisocial. I just don't like greedy people. That's exactly what it is. A tool for greedy people.

    It´s a tool for people who like to improve their changes of getting an item they want. If all loot was bound on equip these addons wouldn´t exists.
  • MissBizz
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    I love these addons. Mostly not even for me, mostly for others.

    I run with guildees alot and am willing to trade/share. I don't care to stick around at the end of a dungeon checking traits on everything just to find out someone wants it. With this addon they can see I got it "Hey are you working on that set?" "nope, here you go" and away we go.

    If you don't want to share, say no. If you want to get rich, ask a ridiculous amount of money.
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  • Zalicius
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.

    I'm not antisocial. I just don't like greedy people. That's exactly what it is. A tool for greedy people.

    It´s a tool for people who like to improve their changes of getting an item they want. If all loot was bound on equip these addons wouldn´t exists.

    They can always say they are looking for a certain set before hand. I have no problem giving up items I've no use for, but this greed tool annoys me to no end.
  • SilverWF
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    Zalicius wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.

    I'm not antisocial. I just don't like greedy people. That's exactly what it is. A tool for greedy people.
    Greedy? Excuse me, but how one can get a profit from that 'greed'? You can't sold dungeon's stuff, so it would only save your time on farm it.
    I'd rather would call 'greedy' that guys, who asks money for their loot, like it was yesterday in the FG, where the guy asked 100k for his Sharp Viper dagger, I refused and another guy bought it. But even here is all OK for me.
    If you are too greed to spare not needed purple stuff with your group member (and who knows, maybe it is he carried you there?), then ask another purple item in trade for it and have your happy deconstruction later. What's a problem really?
    But that you are calling 'greedy' - is not a greed, absolutely.
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    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • Aisle9
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    Idk I guess Ill never understand people who would rather get 1 ruby ash wood than ease someones struggle.
    Probably, my comment would be deleted with another warning, but I call ppl acting like this are jerks or even worse.
    As for me, I'm asking for gear always (I have a lot of alts and they all still need some pieces of sets) and if someone agree to give item to me I'll always trade it for another same quality item. Always.

    Welp, I guess I'm a horrible person for helping many guildies and people I pugged with. :(
    But for me, saving someone's from grind is more valuable than a decon item. I usually end up with full bags any time I do pledges, so it doesnt really matter.
    However, many people in pugs were offering gold for divine items, I gave them away for free, but its not like people are ungrateful and rude. Most of them arent, anyway.
    Also, I was replying to a certain comment, and that person stated that they would rather decon valuable item than give it away. Of course, if you got an item you need, you cant be forced to give it to anyone, and any sensible person would understand that.

    You are a horrible person, we are horrible people.

    One should never share the l00t with people they are grouped with, especially for free, especially if they are farming the set.

    NEVER.

    Sacred rule.


    Sarcasm aside, I'm guessing the OP and most of the people against it never tried to farm a trial set, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation...

    Try using this mindset with 12 people while looking for a sharp lightning staff or a sharp dagger...
    Edited by Aisle9 on June 14, 2017 1:52PM
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    Jebediah Orbrynn - DC magicka templar (PC - EU)
    Hold-Many-Bags - Mule DK, Promoted to main tank, occasionally stamDD
    Olaf Proudstache - Mule - No longer with us Now a Stamwarden healer
    Aglieglie Brazorf - AD magicka sorcerer (PC - EU)
    Rodolfo Lavandino - DC stamina, greatsword wielding, Jesus beam spamming, Redguard hybrid templar just a stamplar again (PC - EU)
    Lemmy Raise Master - EP stamina necromancer (PC - EU)

    Scions of Dawn recruitment ad - PC EU multifaction PvE endgame raiding guild

    LUI user - I can see you when you fap loot.

    #SpellswordArmy
    #MakeSpellswordsGreatAgain

    In the Game of PuGs you win or you ragequit

    "Dip dip potato chip, dip dip potato chip"
  • Rinmaethodain
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    Addons that show what other players loot are unquestionably THE BEST THING that happened on addons scene. I am a busy person, i can log in and run 5 dungeons and 3 trials in a row during a day and immediately log out. I have maxed out horse and inventory space so it takes a while for my inventory to fill. I usually check items and sell/trash things once a week or so.

    Addons that show what other players loot (and make other players see what I looted) earned me SO MUCH GOLD for things I would otherwise destroy. It's practically free gold lol. And the best part? I don't even have to pay attention to it! People will be checking loot history on their own and when they see something valuable they will tell me about this! It's wonderful.

    Before, during a trial I would have to keep a list of who wants what and then compare it against my inventory. Now anybody who wants something simply pays attention to their chat log and when item comes up they will speak up.

    Simple, efficient and practical.

    All these "addon is spying on my loot" people or "i dont want others know what i loot" and that person who declared that they abandons their group if someone simply asks for an item, what a drama queens. At times like this I feel sad for addon creators, they put time and effort into something that benefits community just for few forum SJW to nitpick on their work.
    Edited by Rinmaethodain on June 14, 2017 1:58PM
  • Aisle9
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    Zalicius wrote: »
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.

    I'm not antisocial. I just don't like greedy people. That's exactly what it is. A tool for greedy people.

    It´s a tool for people who like to improve their changes of getting an item they want. If all loot was bound on equip these addons wouldn´t exists.

    They can always say they are looking for a certain set before hand. I have no problem giving up items I've no use for, but this greed tool annoys me to no end.

    In Blackheart haven I'm looking for any bone pirate divines or impen piece, except head and shoulders, and any impen or sturdy small piece, infused big pieces of Knight's Errant, including head, shoulders and weapons, but not jewelry.

    Try guessing how many people remembered that, even when I was carrying the group ?

    If you guessed none, yeah, you were right.

    Edited by Aisle9 on June 14, 2017 1:57PM
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    Gruzosh Barrelsmasher - DC stamina sorcerer (PC - EU)
    Kew'bacca - AD stamina nightblade (PC - EU)
    Jebediah Orbrynn - DC magicka templar (PC - EU)
    Hold-Many-Bags - Mule DK, Promoted to main tank, occasionally stamDD
    Olaf Proudstache - Mule - No longer with us Now a Stamwarden healer
    Aglieglie Brazorf - AD magicka sorcerer (PC - EU)
    Rodolfo Lavandino - DC stamina, greatsword wielding, Jesus beam spamming, Redguard hybrid templar just a stamplar again (PC - EU)
    Lemmy Raise Master - EP stamina necromancer (PC - EU)

    Scions of Dawn recruitment ad - PC EU multifaction PvE endgame raiding guild

    LUI user - I can see you when you fap loot.

    #SpellswordArmy
    #MakeSpellswordsGreatAgain

    In the Game of PuGs you win or you ragequit

    "Dip dip potato chip, dip dip potato chip"
  • SilverWF
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    Idk I guess Ill never understand people who would rather get 1 ruby ash wood than ease someones struggle.
    Probably, my comment would be deleted with another warning, but I call ppl acting like this are jerks or even worse.
    As for me, I'm asking for gear always (I have a lot of alts and they all still need some pieces of sets) and if someone agree to give item to me I'll always trade it for another same quality item. Always.

    Welp, I guess I'm a horrible person for helping many guildies and people I pugged with. :(
    Emmm... I've bolded a part about ppl and how I call them. Not you, sure, sadly, it wasn't obvious...
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    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • Enslaved
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    Zalicius wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.

    I'm not antisocial. I just don't like greedy people. That's exactly what it is. A tool for greedy people.

    No. You know what is a tool(addon) for the greedy people? Master Merchant.
    This is a tool that gives you insight in several things in game
    • RNG
    • Are people you play with lying scum that NeverGotAnyLoot while you clearly see they got nice one
    • Is certain setup more likely to get certain type of loot ( for example, does mDK has greater chance getting medium armor sets and weapons and vice versa)

    If this is so offensive, well... Feel free to be offended when playing in group.
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    .
    Qbiken wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.

    I'm not antisocial. I just don't like greedy people. That's exactly what it is. A tool for greedy people.

    It´s a tool for people who like to improve their changes of getting an item they want. If all loot was bound on equip these addons wouldn´t exists.

    They can always say they are looking for a certain set before hand. I have no problem giving up items I've no use for, but this greed tool annoys me to no end.

    In Blackheart haven I'm looking for any bone pirate divines or impen piece, and any impen or sturdy small piece, infused big pieces of Knight's Errant.

    Try guessing how many people remembered that, even when I was carrying the group ?

    If you guessed none, yeah, you were right.

    Yeah, I don't even pay attention to that. I know I'm not going to remember who wants what and which items. And I'm not going to scroll back and forth just to look at who wanted what. I expect people to ask me for an item when they see it.

    The only exception might be right before the main baddie if someone is all I need the medium monster helm if it drops.
  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Kram8ion wrote: »
    Omg I'd feel so violated
    PS4 your my special little guy :*

    Yup
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    This add on saves me linking every fkn thing i get in farm runs

    If i get something i dont want to trade i say "no"
  • Draekony
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    ya this addon has saved me lot of farming, and most of the time the people are happy to be paid for the items (i dont ask for free items - i offer 5-30k per item depending on how much time i've been trying to get it) and like others have said A LOT of these people dont even know they have it or that I was looking for it - although i announce it in group chat prior. even friends that i run pledges with who i know would hand it over for free - sometimes they've not even noticed they had it.

    and yes ive had people say no or they need it, and thats fine.

    and tbh it also has made me more giving, i give things free to other people because i'm so appreciative that people in the past have sold/given me the items i needed to save time in my day. it gets frustrating farming a dungeon over and over, dealing with the bad dps, bad tanks or bad heals just to not get that item.

    i can only think of when i had to farm amberplasm, the ruins of mazzatun pugs are thee absolute worst. if dps wasn't good enough we couldnt finish the dungeon which we wouldnt figure out until the 2nd to last boss which took a while to get there already cause most of the pugs you need to teach the mechanics to get there, and how to skip trash.

    /end rant
    Edited by Draekony on June 14, 2017 2:12PM
  • Aisle9
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    What I find absolutely mind boggling is the fact that such addons are considered just plain evil, but the situation they try to mitigate (the need to farm for stuff) and the reason they exists (helping in said farming of stuff), no, that's just fine and dandy...

    Why would you want to remove tools to alleviate something that is almost universally recognized as cancerous ?
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    Hold-Many-Bags - Mule DK, Promoted to main tank, occasionally stamDD
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    LUI user - I can see you when you fap loot.

    #SpellswordArmy
    #MakeSpellswordsGreatAgain

    In the Game of PuGs you win or you ragequit

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  • Skjoldur
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    EvilCroc wrote: »
    1."Multiplayer" just means "not single player". Nothing about interaction. Other conjectures are wrong.

    If you go into a dungeon with other people, the price you have to pay is a certain degree of social interaction.

    If you are not willing to pay it, do the dungeons alone.
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    And this is the sort of toxicity that makes me want all of my gear to be available in cyrodiil.
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    .
    Qbiken wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.

    I'm not antisocial. I just don't like greedy people. That's exactly what it is. A tool for greedy people.

    It´s a tool for people who like to improve their changes of getting an item they want. If all loot was bound on equip these addons wouldn´t exists.

    They can always say they are looking for a certain set before hand. I have no problem giving up items I've no use for, but this greed tool annoys me to no end.

    In Blackheart haven I'm looking for any bone pirate divines or impen piece, except head and shoulders, and any impen or sturdy small piece, infused big pieces of Knight's Errant, including head, shoulders and weapons, but not jewelry.

    Try guessing how many people remembered that, even when I was carrying the group ?

    If you guessed none, yeah, you were right.

    Yep. The RNG for set items is so insane in this game, people that don't share items they don't need are f**** a**holes.

    Luckily this does not happen that often.
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    Zalicius wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Zalicius wrote: »
    I'm a healer, and If I find someone is using that in the middle of a dungeon because they ask "Hey, can I have that Sword of Mighty Stabbyness you just picked up?" I will drop the group. Sure that may be a crappy thing to do, but you know what else is crappy thing to do? Spying on people's stuff.
    I'm a healer too (also as tank and DD) and I would never do such crazy antisocial stuff.

    I'm not antisocial. I just don't like greedy people. That's exactly what it is. A tool for greedy people.

    Oh yes, that is what you are.
  • Zalicius
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    What I find absolutely mind boggling is the fact that such addons are considered just plain evil, but the situation they try to mitigate (the need to farm for stuff) and the reason they exists (helping in said farming of stuff), no, that's just fine and dandy...

    Why would you want to remove tools to alleviate something that is almost universally recognized as cancerous ?

    Running dungeons and communicating with other players is cancerous?
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