Blame the healer, blame the healer they're not even a real class anyway.

Aisle9 · June 2017

Faulgor wrote: »

I usually don't get blamed a lot (mainly because dungeons are trivial and I off-DPS most of the time anyway), but getting berated yesterday for not using Orbs and Spear Shards was kind of comical.

And if I already have to spam BoL because of your misadventures, don't cry about "HEALS!" when you die all the time ...

I don't even have BoL on my bar, unless I'm healing trials...

slumber_sandb16_ESO · June 2017

As a tank whenever I see DPS blame the healer I shift the blame to the DPS for not doing enough damage.

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

slumber_sandb16_ESO wrote: »

As a tank whenever I see DPS blame the healer I shift the blame to the DPS for not doing enough damage.

DPS can solo most vet dungeons in this game. If you're dying, it's your own fault.

StormWylf · June 2017

bryanhaas wrote: »

I know this is stupid but I found it amusing, everyone knows how it is always the healer or tank's fault and that it can never be the crappy DPS's fault (I usually run DPS btw). So I got the blame Canada song from South Park stuck in my head but with the words in the title. Hope it gives someone a laugh, at least it seemed funny to me.
So just in case, this is all sarcasm try to take it as a joke.

And we come full circle.

quadraxis666 wrote: »

MY usual healer is Canadian. So blame Canada right?

Ruckly · June 2017

Healing on a consol must be a real pain. On PC I can get my fov up to 80 and spin around 180 to heal the dps standing at 28m range from boss easy enough. It's annoying because I have to break channeling for mana and I might have to move out of dot range but usually not the end of the world.

RANKK7 · June 2017

There are a TON of BAD healers TOO around, not using any kind of magicka steal, not even remotely orbs! ZERO buffs to the group, ZERO sustain.
Dungeons surely take a bit longer in those cases!
Let alone when they die more than often and DDs are the ones rezing.
Let alone when they truly do not heal and you must slot self heal.
Plenty of these healers around because it's "easy" role and fast-into-dunegon, well it's not easy if you want to do it right, as any role it requires real effort and dedication.
I always compliment a good healer, buffs and debuffs are much important to preserve a certain flow through the dungeon and proceed at optimal speed; lately though I found myself complimenting very few!

Lavennin · June 2017

I may be new, but I've never been blamed. Is it super rare?

Generally speaking, in MMOs when you are the healer and get blamed, you can't do anything but to quietly let them die. But if you are the tank you can tell them to suck it up and the others most likely won't fight back. It's funny, because somehow people assume the tank is the leader of the group, and the healer is soft & gentle & will cry in the corner when you raise your voice.

RANKK7 · June 2017

slumber_sandb16_ESO wrote: »

As a tank whenever I see DPS blame the healer I shift the blame to the DPS for not doing enough damage.

Yo should instead blame the healer when the healer is to blame, have fun without any kind of buff or debuff from those kind of healers not even running ele drain. how cute.

Ruckly · June 2017

Lavennin wrote: »

I may be new, but I've never been blamed. Is it super rare?

Generally speaking, in MMOs when you are the healer and get blamed, you can't do anything but to quietly let them die. But if you are the tank you can tell them to suck it up and the others most likely won't fight back. It's funny, because somehow people assume the tank is the leader of the group, and the healer is soft & gentle & will cry in the corner when you raise your voice.

lvl 1-50 yes it should be very rare. All you need to heal is a healing staff and food buff. Most people doing dungeons in that bracket I assume have a self heal or some survival skill in case they dodge roll into a second group while questing which they can pop in dungeons or a potion. Talons fixes melee in place and makes most pulls trivial. Only thing to worry about is a boss spike if you are squishy or a dps running all over the place with one minor mob chasing them.

Lavennin · June 2017

Ruckly wrote: »

Lavennin wrote: »

I may be new, but I've never been blamed. Is it super rare?

Generally speaking, in MMOs when you are the healer and get blamed, you can't do anything but to quietly let them die. But if you are the tank you can tell them to suck it up and the others most likely won't fight back. It's funny, because somehow people assume the tank is the leader of the group, and the healer is soft & gentle & will cry in the corner when you raise your voice.

lvl 1-50 yes it should be very rare. All you need to heal is a healing staff and food buff. Most people doing dungeons in that bracket I assume have a self heal or some survival skill in case they dodge roll into a second group while questing which they can pop in dungeons or a potion. Talons fixes melee in place and makes most pulls trivial. Only thing to worry about is a boss spike if you are squishy or a dps running all over the place with one minor mob chasing them.

I've been mostly doing normal dungeons (pledges) and WGT. Maybe it's because PuGs tend to be clueless in DLC dungeons and healers are usually the only one that knows WGT mechanics, so no one dares to blame the healer.

Faulgor · June 2017

Aisle9 wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

I usually don't get blamed a lot (mainly because dungeons are trivial and I off-DPS most of the time anyway), but getting berated yesterday for not using Orbs and Spear Shards was kind of comical.

And if I already have to spam BoL because of your misadventures, don't cry about "HEALS!" when you die all the time ...

I don't even have BoL on my bar, unless I'm healing trials...

After the Repentance nerf I've come to use it more, but in most dungeons it's not needed. Mainly just to crit Equilibrium-spaming tanks back to full.

ccfeeling · June 2017

There is no pure healer in eso world , pure healer means huge dps lost.
Dmg is the first priority , sad but true .

Pathfindr · June 2017

ccfeeling wrote: »

Dmg is the first priority , sad but true .

Even a bad dd does more dmg than a dead dd.

Jitterbug · June 2017

Teridaxus wrote: »

Well duh, when will you healers find a way to cure stupid.

When they add an ally morph of frozen gate

Aisle9 · June 2017

ccfeeling wrote: »

There is no pure healer in eso world , pure healer means huge dps lost.
Dmg is the first priority , sad but true .

False

As a pure healer, what you can provide in terms of buffs/debuffs more than makes up for the lack of personal dps.

What you said is only true in specific and limited circumstances like veteran dungeon where the dps simply can't take advantage of warhorn, spc, combat prayer, etc. Once I completed my rotation and applied everything I simply don't have time to also throw in some jabs, because I have to already reapply them, and ensure a decent uptime, not to mention provide resource management too (shards/orbs).

A healer that only heals (e.g. BoL spammers) yes, we agree on that, it's useless.

A healer needs to also dps if the DPS are scrubs.

A healer doing dps can contribute for 10 - 15k.

A healer providing buffs and debuffs can give a dps increase of 10 - 15k to the whole group.

In that specific circumstance, where the DPS can't properly take advantage of buffs, then, yes, those 15k extra dps can't hurt.

bryanhaas · June 2017

Feanor wrote: »

The chance it's the healers fault exponentially rises if the DD is a main hand bow user.

My Khajit Stamblade resembles that remark.

bryanhaas · June 2017

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Im sure everyone has seen this by now it has been posted by me and many others over the years, but when these threads pop up I can't help it.

Enjoy. Again.

https://youtu.be/2DxS7eT_ky4

That is awesome, but missing one important part.

YOU

MUST

TBAG

SCRUBBY

DPS!

Punish them for their insolence!

bryanhaas · June 2017

Insandros wrote: »

Mashille wrote: »

Ah Pugs...

*Stands In Red Circle While DPSing
*Dies.
"What the actual **** dude do you not know how to heal someone, it's not hard."

True Story.

Yeah, been blamed in Spindlecluth 1 for people being one shoted by the Whisperer, because they are too dumb to roll dodge the second she turns to look at them to avoid 2 possible range spittings Or how many time i get blame for not dpsing, because the 2 dps are too crappy to do decent dps, i can't even have fun to play the class i love to play, healer :P When i hop on my DPS, i DPS for 2, i don't expect the healer to take my job

BTW, i think people thinks Red Circles = Health Buffs or AOE Health Regen since it's the color of their health bars and Health potions. :P

I finished spindle once as the tank along with the healer, we didn't rez the dps's just tbag'd them while killing the boss.

poke, chain, bag, stab, slash, bag, bash, poke, bag, warhorn, buff, bag.

They were not amused but I was and in the end isn't that all that matters?

Franieck · June 2017

Yeah, as a healer I can tolerate bad Dps... what I can't get over though are bad tanks that can't aggro, this is the biggest pain I have come acrros as a healer in ESO

bryanhaas · June 2017

Victoria_Marquis wrote: »

Most tanks suck so much now due to nerfing I just use my high elf healer mage as a tank.... And DPS..... And healer. *Face Palm*
Why is the healer tanking??? =O,.,o=

Ice staff tanking actually seems really good now.

Tasear · June 2017

Mashille wrote: »

Ah Pugs...

*Stands In Red Circle While DPSing
*Dies.
"What the actual **** dude do you not know how to heal someone, it's not hard."

True Story.

Your aren't a real Healer till... this happens and you are still around.

bryanhaas · June 2017

GamerGuy wrote: »

Cêltic421 wrote: »

Us healers we are use to it....

Hahahahahahahaha so true. Hate when do pulls *** and die then blame healer!!

Yeah I must admit I tend to pull all the time but usually I survive. I also tend to OCD must kill everting including that little bug. Drives some people crazy.

bryanhaas · June 2017

quadraxis666 wrote: »

MY usual healer is Canadian. So blame Canada right?

They're not even a real country anyway.

I love Canadians, eh. With all the a boots, ehs, and donchnow.

bryanhaas · June 2017

Franieck wrote: »

Yeah, as a healer I can tolerate bad Dps... what I can't get over though are bad tanks that can't aggro, this is the biggest pain I have come acrros as a healer in ESO

Methinks your tank was not a tank.

Feanor · June 2017

bryanhaas wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

The chance it's the healers fault exponentially rises if the DD is a main hand bow user.

My Khajit Stamblade resembles that remark.

Sure, there are players out there who can do flawless vMA with a bow/bow build. You seldom meet those in a random PuG though. It's more often the light attack brigade. Much more often.

bryanhaas · June 2017

Feanor wrote: »

bryanhaas wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

The chance it's the healers fault exponentially rises if the DD is a main hand bow user.

My Khajit Stamblade resembles that remark.

Sure, there are players out there who can do flawless vMA with a bow/bow build. You seldom meet those in a random PuG though. It's more often the light attack brigade. Much more often.

I'm not saying it works just that is what my stam blade is. My main is a mag sorc, always has been. And not because I did all this research and found out that sorcs were op.
My highly detailed way of choosing my first character was: In Skyrim I always played a Nord but wanted to do an Altmer play through but never got around to it, so in Skyrim Online I made a High Elf Mag Sorc.