I find ICP much harder than WGT

That's the boss that seperates the men from the boys

It's really all about teamwork and survivability here: activate the pinion when it's up, close the portals when your screen goes grey and stay close to the pinion.

Just keep at it

When IC first came out, that is when WGT was actually hard, been significantly nerfed to the ground since then, and still more nerfs needed?

It's not hard. The planar inhibitor itself doesn't do much damage at all. Most groups fail at closing the pinion and the portals. As for Kena - HM can be tricky. But ICP is harder, I agree.

That boss just needs working brains.

I imagine people who aren't deaf or generally struggle with sound recognition can find an easy enough way to hear White Gold Tower. It certainly has enough to say.

Did you read about strategies for this dungeon before going in or you just jumped (possibly as part of random dungeon finder) in and hoped for best?

For third boss, Planar Inhibitor, you take two approaches, either stack and burn or play the mechanics. In mechanics play every group member grabs the pinion one after another to lessen damage done by Inhibitor DOT. With that, there is a risk that tank when he is not fixed by Inhibitor will need to close portals.

First and most important. Whoever touches the pinion in middle of room gets "Inhibitor fix" which is basically aggro. While they have Inhibitor fixed on them they will never have to kill portals.

Periodically, person that does not hold Inhibitor aggro will have their screen turn grey "moth vision" and they will be able to attack daedric portals. They must be destroyed ASAP or you will get swarmed by adds. The difficulty here comes from the fact that healers might be confused and have no DPS abilities to close portals (even tho one vamp's bane is sufficient or resto heavy attack) and same with Tanks who are last person with DPS capabilities.

With portals closed, after enough time passes Inhibitor will switch from red flame to blue flame phase. In red flame phase Inhibitor should be kept still. The fire around him does barely anything. Whoever has aggro should stay still (whereas most DPS or Healers if they get aggro they start running around and waste everyones DPS). In blue flame phase it's different. When that happens, whoever has Inhibitor fix must run far and fast. Blue inhibitor flame will generally one shot anybody, person chased gets constant damage on them they are slowed down all the way to being stuck in place. At this point, as soon as Pinion activates again it has to be used by next person.

Rinse and repeat...

The second strategy is "stack and burn". With good healer, strong tank and high dps tank can activate pinion and hold Inhibitor's aggro for whole fight. With enough DPS, Inhibitor will die before enough adds will spawn (yes you ignore portals there). Occasionally blue fire phase might start but boss should be almost dead at this point and switch wont be nessesary.

https://youtu.be/WxqOfzqZT1I?t=260

When it first came out a friend of mine stayed there for literally 30+ hours going through many good players yet he didn't manage to pass that boss(that time). And he is a great player. He got it afterwards but it took effort and a lot of hard work. By now it's been nerfed SO many times...it's even been soloed. C'mon.

There're exactly 3 things you have to pay attention to in this fight. THREE. Outside of those things you don't even need to move(running her around is actually a bad idea as it lowers the dps). One is closing portals. It's not hard. You can do it with like 10k dps just fine, probably less even. You just gotta pay attention and when your screen goes white you go and kill portals. The other is pinion. If your group dps is high enough you just let tank hold her til blue phase, otherwise you exchange the pinion, everyone closes it in turns. It's also not hard. See it open? Go there, close it, then just stand still somewhere and dps boss. The last one is blue stage, during this stage the person who has agro (the one who's closed pinion last) has to run away from her and someone else has to close pinion. It's also not hard. Watch for the pinion and as soon as it opens(in blue stage it's extremely important because she will snare and eventually kill the person she's chasing...unless they streaking magsorc of course) go close it. Then run. Dodge, streak, shield, stuff until either blue stage is over or someone else takes her off you.

It takes some trying, but no, it doesn't need nerfs. If anything it needs buffs. I remember the great feeling of challenge completed back when you actually had to get on voicechat and call out who's closing pinion because there was no burning her and no making mistakes on that fight. I really wish we had more mechanics heavy fights like this in dungeons.

Group has low dps but doesn't bother kill the portals or rotate the pinion

Yes, in that case, it would be hard.

Group has even lower dps, but carefully rotate the pinion, kill the portals as they are called, take care not to stay too close during the blue phase.

Nah, it's a piece of caek.

Group has high dps.

Burn, baby, burn

WGT is the easiest of the hard dungeons, the first boss just needs a tank that can make the boss look the other way. The second bosses are so easy no mechanics even needed.

The inhibitor should also be easy if you just take turns on pinion and take out portals with long range attack, even the weakest ones do the job.

Molag kena on nomral veteran mode is pretty easy, just dodge roll the lighting and dps then take out the mages when needed and stay away from then when they die.

Ermagerd, it's heard at ferst.

Seriously, the biggest thing with this one is a coordinated group.

A few tips that have worked well for us:

• Voice comms - way easier to coordinate this way, to convey half a dozen different things during fight.
• Voice comms - seriously, this fight gets easier by a factor of 10 if you can talk. You won't have time to use text chat.
• Have the tank keep boss stationary-ish. About half way out from middle is good.
  • This allows some movement for tank (stepping out of red).
  • This allows AoE's to damage boss.
  • This gives next pinion guy some breathing room/distance before the boss is on his tail.
  • Stand near, but not on the pinion. This keeps AoE's from getting dropped right near where the next person will need to be.
  • Always stay moving. Easier to avoid things that drop where you were, vs were you are.
• Take turns.
  • Easiest to go between the two DPS and tank for pinion duty. That way the healer can strictly heal.
  • Go away (if not tank), but not too far. DPS can still do damage this way and you're still in range of heals.
  • Wait until NPC announces "Smash those rifts" or "My spell has revealed..." before taking pinion from tank. This ensures someone else (not tank) has moth vision, as tank DPS is usually not that high.
  • Call out when you have vision! Remember those comms?
    • If you have vision, portals are your only job.
    • Sometimes, you'll have to wait a sec for one to spawn so you can burn it. This is normal. DPS the boss a little and keep looking around.
    • If you were next in the pinion queue, your group skips to the next group member.
    • As soon as portals are cleared, you grab the next pinion (resume your spot in queue.)
    • Call out when portals are clear.
  • Portals, portals, portals. It only takes about a heavy attack and a half to close one. Ranged anything, even shield charge if you're stam works too.
  • Take the pinion off someone asap when she is blue or they will die.
    Watch for the super snare, grab it before then!
    • Mobility helps here. Streak, Lightning Form, Rapids, Twisting Path, Roll Dodge...When she's blue and on you, your purpose in life is staying alive and staying away. Don't kite her towards your group members. Group members, don't step in front of the blue!
    • Equip a shield, any shield. Harness is great for magicka characters, use what you can for stamina (class shield, etc).
  • If you get a couple ads, don't panic. Kite them, CC them, AoE them, Single Target them. Deal with them quickly, but when you can. Especially keep them off your healer.
  • If someone drops, rez when she goes underground.

This fight has an RNG factor (who gets vision) and timing will depend on mobility available, and how much/how long each of you can eat damage from the boss when you have aggro.

Ideally, find the distance that lets you pass her back and forth like a tennis match, communicate, and this fight becomes very manageable.

Best of luck. Let us know how it goes.

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Third boss? Is that the Planar Inhibitor? It's been awhile since I did White Gold Tower but that fight wasn't too hard the last time I did it.

Then you obviously did it in a Guild group or something. Cause otherwise, unless everyone knows the fight really well, PuGs almost never make it past that boss.

I dont think its a hard fight. I completed it on vet when i was low CP and all it really takes is some mechanics. People are used to stack and burn mechanics and vWGT is a step up from that mechanic. You need people who actually know part of the mechanics for the fight in order to complete it, once youre done with that the last boss is much easier.

Troneon wrote: »

Danny231 wrote: »

Hello, am I the only one here that finds the third boss in this dungon pretty hard. Even for vet players! Is there away you are able to tweek this so. It's not too hard! Thanks ( this is just some positive feedback )

3 Mag Sorcs + 1 Healer...

Nuke ...

Easy fight...used to be more difficult where you actually had to know mechanics and survive a lot longer, now its easy as heavily nerfed already....

Use pinion, kill portals and nuke is pretty much it.


Repeat and rinse for most content in game...

They don't have to be magsorcs at all. Any 3 DPS and you'll burn it