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Do we really need Shield Breaker now?

  • bowmanz607
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    Vaoh wrote: »
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    Lmao. I'd you die from someone spamming this and only this than you deserve it tbh. It is the same thing as someone just hitting someone with light attacks who does not have a shield and killing them. I mean seriously if you have 20k health, someone would have to hit you 10-12 times to kill you. If you let someone do that it is a l2p issue.

    Against any competent player shield breaker is really only an execute when they get to low health and start spamming shields to stay alive. This set will prevent that unless they use Los.

    And what happens when that Shield Breaker user has 40K health and high resistances? When you can't burst them down at all while they stand completely still spamming light attacks. You cannot dodge those hits. They are a reliable 2K health damage taken per light attack, meaning like 2K-4K a second. At 20K health, it pretty much takes like six seconds to totally die assuming you had full health to begin with.

    You cannot gain that health back by any practical means.

    In 1vX, even 1v2, it is extremely unfair. A direct counter is a direct counter. That's braindead clear just like the playstyle it encourages. Surely you can see that.

    OK but this game is not balanced around 1vx. Wrobel will be the first to say that in that situation you are outnumbered. The problem is being outnumbered with someone spamming the attack while you are attacked by others. Again, this is a numbers issue and not a sb issue. No different than someone spamming snipe, jb, flare, injection, frags etc when outnumbered. It is literally the same as someone spamming a light attack against you if you didn't have a shi3ld while outnumvered.

    Seriously, if a you are a player that does not use a shield but someone just stood back and light attack spammed until you were dead would you call for a nerf on light attacks or getting rid of them all together? I would think not.

    Additionally, there are so many other things you can do when you encounter these situations as I mentioned in another comment.

    To be clear, I am not advocating for this game to be based on numbers of players you have against others. But that is how the game is vuilt. Has been since dynamic ult left the game. If you want something else wait for battle grounds.

    As for the situation you suggested...

    If a person is standing completely still spamming light attacks and you die then you deserve to die no matter their health. You can Los, cc, not cast shields etc. That person is obviously a tank that can't do crazy damage. You don't even need a shield for that. Plus they are standing still doing the same thing which is predictable. Last, you can gain that health back by you know healing yourself. The heals in this game will out heal sb no matter your build. Especially with all the ways to increase healing effectiveness in this game.

    Again, and this can not be overstated, against any competent player sb is nothing more than an execute. No competent player is dieing from a light attack spam. Even if outnumbered there is a very noticeable audio questions you are getting hit with it and you can adjust the situation. For instance, using list against the person doing it to face the others. Or even target that player and take them out first. Perhaps even a Ranged cc. There are so many logical battle choices a player can make.

    The problem on these forums is that people don't want to change what they do in battle when they are countered. They want their build to be the do it all build.
  • Waseem
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    Shieldbreaker is a medicine
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  • SublimeSparo
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    I don't use this set, but I don't rely much on shields either in PVP. I think it's just a cute trolling set that isn't very harmful anyway. Back in the day I tried it out, rarely worked vs any sorcerer with a clue.
    If it worked well against you then this set barely justifies itself, because it is so situational.
    Anyway, I wouldn't might if they made something more interesting of it.
    I wish there were more sets you could buy for tel var stones anyway.

    Yeah it's a bit of a one-trick-pony. Would be nice if it offered something else, because we do need some more interesting medium armor sets for tel var.
    Anyway, it worked in this instance because I was sitting inside a snare and sorc roots, so I couldn't reach the pro player spamming light attacks at me with a bow. That 2.1k damage really adds up over time when you rely on shields to keep yourself alive.

    It is the only weakness of Blazing Shield builds if you are honorable enough not to use poisons.

    Bombard, bombard, bombard, then negate, then more bombard. Blazing shield ruined
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  • susmitds
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    I don't use this set, but I don't rely much on shields either in PVP. I think it's just a cute trolling set that isn't very harmful anyway. Back in the day I tried it out, rarely worked vs any sorcerer with a clue.
    If it worked well against you then this set barely justifies itself, because it is so situational.
    Anyway, I wouldn't might if they made something more interesting of it.
    I wish there were more sets you could buy for tel var stones anyway.

    Yeah it's a bit of a one-trick-pony. Would be nice if it offered something else, because we do need some more interesting medium armor sets for tel var.
    Anyway, it worked in this instance because I was sitting inside a snare and sorc roots, so I couldn't reach the pro player spamming light attacks at me with a bow. That 2.1k damage really adds up over time when you rely on shields to keep yourself alive.

    It is the only weakness of Blazing Shield builds if you are honorable enough not to use poisons.

    Bombard, bombard, bombard, then negate, then more bombard. Blazing shield ruined

    Bombarb no longer chain roots. Also, Negate is only for Sorcs. As a stamina NB, you don't have too many soft CCs.
  • Master_Kas
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    Was it frozi animal (EP) ? :trollface: haven't seen anyone spamming those annoying light attacks for months now luckily.

    Or it might be the TF lag making it so I don't notice it. But yeah shieldbreaker feels pointless atm since anyone with a brain can burst down any shield .. :/
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  • Jaronking
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    I think it's definitely time for this set to be removed or utterly reworked.

    Do you know how annoying it is to 1vX a group of 6+ EP Stam NB/Magicka Templars in the Imperial City trying to take their flag, only for them to respawn super quickly about ~40m away, and then equip Shield Breaker when they can't win otherwise since it hard counters Mag Sorcs?

    It's very annoying. That happened to me yesterday and I had to leave the area. Shieldbreaker has always been deadly, but I spend much more time applying shields that dealing damage now because of the shield duration nerf. So yeah, I approve of some big changes being made to this set.

    Never understood why you should be rewarded fighting a Mag Sorc by counting to 5sec and then CCing for a win 90% of the time.
    I think its a bigger problem that they can respond 3 seconds later right next to you.
  • silky_soft
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    Sb shouldnt damage. Should be apply a shield version of defile
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  • Tonnopesce
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    I still use the 4 pcs in one of my toons as is really good, the 5 pcs bonus tho is wortless nowdays.
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    TLDR

    No, shields only last 6 seconds now.

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  • timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO
    Shield breaker are ment to kill this lame op sorcs and any one else hidding behind a healer staff ect...
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    Edited by timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO on June 12, 2017 7:03AM
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  • Illurian
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    Shield breaker are ment to kill this lame op sorcs and any one else hidding behind a healer staff ect...
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    Ironic that you posted that pic since it applies to you and your necromancy.
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