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So where are the children in Morrowind?
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Cêltic421✭✭✭✭andreasranasen wrote: »There's a quest in Morrowind (can't remember the name) and the NPC is talking about their two children, one of them is 8 years old. I thought kids didn't exist in ESO?
Now that you mentioned it I don't ever remember seeing any kids in ESO. Lame. Maybe 1, the prince in MA0 -
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✭Akevoriath wrote: »Seems like all the people who think it's creepy are the ones who people should be worried about.
Yeah the furries that kept trying to Visit the kids at the Children's hospital my daughter works at gave a similar rational, lets just say that after doing quick bg checks cops were called.Edited by Balamoor on June 10, 2017 6:08PM3 -
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Immersion. And we aren't asking for adoptable children, just children existing in the world. There are many NPCs in relationships in Tamriel, I'm sure some of them have kids.OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »But why? What did they serve purpose for? Quests that a lot of people won't even do? Stay at my house and stare at me awkwardly? I legit don't understand. All of my characters would be horrible parents. They would probably abandoned them in Cyrodiil.
That is a fairly high cost for immersion. Unless there is a game play reason to have children, they will probably not add them to the game.
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1mirg✭✭✭✭✭All the children went to the farm upstate. Where all the children can frolic and play all day long.
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✭lordrichter wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: »There's a quest in Morrowind (can't remember the name) and the NPC is talking about their two children, one of them is 8 years old. I thought kids didn't exist in ESO?
They reproduce by fission. The "children" are fully grown from the start.
Thats the only explanation I can come up with. Same sex monogamous marriages dont produce children.Power level to CP160 in a week:
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✭✭✭✭✭Akevoriath wrote: »Seems like all the people who think it's creepy are the ones who people should be worried about.
Yeah the furries that kept trying to Visit the kids at the Children's hospital my daughter works at gave a similar rational, lets just say that after doing quick bg checks cops were called.
@Balamoor Bruh... If I had a child that was in the hospital working, and furries kept constantly trying to visit the kids...? I'd be more than creeped out, and more than the police would be called. Deadass.
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✭✭✭✭✭It's a legal issue. Some countries have strict restrictions when it comes to violence against children in video games.
Having children in a video game where one can pretty much kill any NPC would mean a limited market for ZOS to sell the game and thus potentially huge revenue losses.
This has nothing to do with lore and everything to do with $$$ ...
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randolphbenoit✭✭✭✭I asked that once in AuAWhy no children in the game? Feels unreal only adults and chickens everywhere...
A: Hermaeus Mora knows..
Hopefully we get an answer one day lolthe NeXus Guild (NA-DC-Crafters) contact @randolphbenoit
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✭Akevoriath wrote: »Seems like all the people who think it's creepy are the ones who people should be worried about.
Yeah the furries that kept trying to Visit the kids at the Children's hospital my daughter works at gave a similar rational, lets just say that after doing quick bg checks cops were called.
@Balamoor Bruh... If I had a child that was in the hospital working, and furries kept constantly trying to visit the kids...? I'd be more than creeped out, and more than the police would be called. Deadass.
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✭✭There are two teenagers that are visibly young now. The WW girl from DB and that Dunmer kid exploring daedric ruins during the Telvanni quest to get land in Vos.2 -
KeiruNicrom✭✭✭✭✭Obviously somebody made a deal with clavicus vile to protect all children in Tamriel from harm and Vile did so by making it so all children became adults physically, therefore being unable to be harmed as children0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Akevoriath wrote: »Seems like all the people who think it's creepy are the ones who people should be worried about.
Yeah the furries that kept trying to Visit the kids at the Children's hospital my daughter works at gave a similar rational, lets just say that after doing quick bg checks cops were called.
@Balamoor Bruh... If I had a child that was in the hospital working, and furries kept constantly trying to visit the kids...? I'd be more than creeped out, and more than the police would be called. Deadass.
More than the police? Animal control?
It's a legal issue. Some countries have strict restrictions when it comes to violence against children in video games.
Having children in a video game where one can pretty much kill any NPC would mean a limited market for ZOS to sell the game and thus potentially huge revenue losses.
This has nothing to do with lore and everything to do with $$$ ...
Yeah, but this is an MMO, not a single player game. ZOS can easily make the kids "green NPCs" and not subject to justice system, assassinations, pick pocketing, etc. They also control the appearance and actions of the kids. They can easily comply with any laws.
The reason that they won't do it is is technical and financial. They have to create models, animations, and textures for children. They have to write and then hire voice actors for dialog. Done properly, they aren't just scaled down adults. They can't go into the world editor and just set the scale to "0.5" and be done with it. All of that costs money and takes up space on the player's hard drive.
Your last comment is really the reason. It is everything to do with $$$. Without a business reason, and that means a compelling reason for them to be in the game, there is no reason for them to bother.Edited by Elsonso on June 10, 2017 7:20PMXBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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ElricFrancis✭✭WhitePawPrints wrote: »It's starting to creep me out a bit at how much players are actively asking about whether or not there are children NPC's in the game. I personally would prefer that they not be in the game, as the children in Skyrim were fairly annoying. The only time I found them somewhat useful and not a nuisance, was when they brought home a pet fox.
Children can add a unique dynamic to a game. When children are in danger, people are generally more motivated to save them or rescue them because most people naturally want to protect the innocent child. Unless they are like the children of Skyrim where most people just want to attack them.
As far as I know there is only one child in the game, who is dead and is in the form of a ghost. It's one of the AD quests I believe in Grahtwood, and the quests does play a bit on sympathies as you want to help free the kid from being trapped by his deranged father.
Oooorrrrrrrr gather them all into an orphanage before barring the doors and windows closed; setting the entire place on fire because they offend you... just a suggestion.
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✭ElricFrancis wrote: »WhitePawPrints wrote: »It's starting to creep me out a bit at how much players are actively asking about whether or not there are children NPC's in the game. I personally would prefer that they not be in the game, as the children in Skyrim were fairly annoying. The only time I found them somewhat useful and not a nuisance, was when they brought home a pet fox.
Children can add a unique dynamic to a game. When children are in danger, people are generally more motivated to save them or rescue them because most people naturally want to protect the innocent child. Unless they are like the children of Skyrim where most people just want to attack them.
As far as I know there is only one child in the game, who is dead and is in the form of a ghost. It's one of the AD quests I believe in Grahtwood, and the quests does play a bit on sympathies as you want to help free the kid from being trapped by his deranged father.
Oooorrrrrrrr gather them all into an orphanage before barring the doors and windows closed; setting the entire place on fire because they offend you... just a suggestion.
You... are very persuasive and make an excellent point sir!
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✭✭✭✭✭Plenty of useless npcs that I can't kill or pickpocket, who have one line of dialogue that repeats ad nausem.
What's one more useless npc here or there? No skin off my back if they add them or not.
Would it be nice? Maybe. Did I question it when I saw the cribs and the tiny beds? Yeah it was a bit creepy. Will I loose sleep over Zos excluded kid npcs? Nah.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Are you old enough to remember the whole "invisible children" debacle when Fallout 1/2 were first released?lordrichter wrote: »Yeah, but this is an MMO, not a single player game. ZOS can easily make the kids "green NPCs" and not subject to justice system, assassinations, pick pocketing, etc. They also control the appearance and actions of the kids. They can easily comply with any laws.
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Grymmoire✭✭✭✭Well, you see there was this Pied Piper dressed in Jester's costume who was stiffed on his payment for leading all the skeevers out of Tamriel. So, in retaliation, he then lured all the children across Tamriel out with his magic flute.
He then led them to where he had amassed all the skeevers and well, you can guess why there are no children and all skeevers are now plump and have voracious appetites!
Sad, but true story as told to me by M'aiq the Liar.Edited by Grymmoire on June 10, 2017 8:43PM1 -
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✭No one has sex in Tamriel. No sex = no children. Also, most likely the reason everyone is running around fighting; sexual frustration!
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You clearly haven't met the Naked Nord yet ...Nyghthowler wrote: »No one has sex in Tamriel. No sex = no children. Also, most likely the reason everyone is running around fighting; sexual frustration!
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✭✭This again? Really?
I am quite happy there are no children (especially Skyrim-type children), haven't missed them at all.
So having children would upset me & my immersion, actually.
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Sneaky-Snurr✭✭✭✭✭I didn't even know there were requests to have children in the game.Edited by Sneaky-Snurr on June 10, 2017 8:28PMThe Order of the Shadows: Nightmare-
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✭✭✭✭✭It's starting to creep me out a bit at how much players are actively asking about whether or not there are children NPC's in the game. I personally would prefer that they not be in the game, as the children in Skyrim were fairly annoying. The only time I found them somewhat useful and not a nuisance, was when they brought home a pet fox.
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I do.Are you old enough to remember the whole "invisible children" debacle when Fallout 1/2 were first released?
It was on the olde days of FallOut2... when there were children in the game, but since they were killable, they got removed in the EU versions. Which led to some vexing events... because in one city, the children would steal items from you, but if you caught on, you could steal them back before they ran to their fence and sold them. In the EU version, the children were gone, but still stealing your items... with no chance to get them back. So you were walking through a door, and suddenly... your second-favorite set of power armor was somehow missing. Or that ammo gor your gun. Or whatever. Annoying!
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Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭Is all of tamriel sterile?Edited by Eshelmen on June 10, 2017 10:09PMPC and PS4 EP only player0
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