What's going on with Selene?
Solariken
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Selene is behaving like Viper lately - no animation, apparently instant damage proc. It used to be fairly obvious and the counterplay was to just move out if you weren't CC'd. Now 9/10 times I don't even see any animation when a proctard hits me with it.
Was this changed in Morrowind or is it being exploited somehow?
Was this changed in Morrowind or is it being exploited somehow?
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I've been saying this forever, it's intentional but no one has said if it requires more than the typical AC.
But yeah, been a POS forever0 -
Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »I've been saying this forever, it's intentional but no one has said if it requires more than the typical AC.
But yeah, been a POS forever
I was seeing the animation pretty much every time before Morrowind hit. Maybe it's just the overall increase in proctard stamblades in BG's that makes it seem like it's happening more now. : /0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'll be honest, I have seen the animation only once ever. I have many many clips of it never showing. In fact I posted a video of it on that Pro animation cancelling thread.
Apparently I need to L2P to dodge invisible instant 6k bear attacks
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭Selene is behaving like Viper lately - no animation, apparently instant damage proc. It used to be fairly obvious and the counterplay was to just move out if you weren't CC'd. Now 9/10 times I don't even see any animation when a proctard hits me with it.
Was this changed in Morrowind or is it being exploited somehow?
Definitely working like it used to... Mine rarely hits.
Might be your graphics settings not showing all animations for better performance, check your settings.Edited by akray21 on June 10, 2017 3:24PM0 -
Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Selene is behaving like Viper lately - no animation, apparently instant damage proc. It used to be fairly obvious and the counterplay was to just move out if you weren't CC'd. Now 9/10 times I don't even see any animation when a proctard hits me with it.
Was this changed in Morrowind or is it being exploited somehow?
Definitely working like it used to... Mine rarely hits.
Might be your graphics settings not showing all animations for better performance, check your settings.
Definitely not that, maxed settings on a beast machine.1 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭On console. It's deliberately done. Yours shows @akray21 because you're not doing it right
Just watch the clip. BTW I'm purposely not closing range and it's an example video of Selene
https://youtu.be/26sm6J46gNU
What @#$_ing bear?
Edit example video, BTW was dead before CC break animation even finishesEdited by Waffennacht on June 10, 2017 3:39PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »On console. It's deliberately done. Yours shows @akray21 because you're not doing it right
Just watch the clip. BTW I'm purposely not closing range and it's an example video of Selenehttps://youtu.be/26sm6J46gNU
What @#$_ing bear?
Edit example video, BTW was dead before CC break animation even finishes
But You must admit he choosed perfect moment when Your buffs went out
You shouldnt loose hurricane and shuffle even for 1 sec if You're fighting stam nb otherwise it ends like in the vid.Edited by Juhasow on June 10, 2017 4:42PM2 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »On console. It's deliberately done. Yours shows @akray21 because you're not doing it right
Just watch the clip. BTW I'm purposely not closing range and it's an example video of Selenehttps://youtu.be/26sm6J46gNU
What @#$_ing bear?
Edit example video, BTW was dead before CC break animation even finishes
But You must admit he choosed perfect moment when Your buffs went out
You shouldnt loose hurricane and shuffle even for 1 sec if You're fighting stam nb otherwise it ends like in the vid.
I agree and I'll just let y'all know, in this video I'm a Stam build.
I don't run Stam. Lol. You also prob shouldn't run grothdar with a bow lmao! I was just messing with a bud in that video. I dunno about that darn bear!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I think more people are just using it now.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Emmagoldman✭✭✭✭✭
✭The animation could be worse, it could be nerineth. Nothing hits better than then a 3 sec proc that comes out of the ground neon blue, makes a loud noise, then explodes......1 -
NedicWildling✭✭✭This should be Selene animation.
Edited by NedicWildling on June 11, 2017 2:23AM20 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I started using selane and my god its amazing. I knoe peoe hate the idea of procs but as someone whos played a max damage ganker for years.... its like to be able to slap on some recovery/health and still obtain some killing power if you combo with a proc set.
Stacking procs is just awful though... global cooldowns needs to be a thing.PS4 NA DC0 -
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✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »I'll be honest, I have seen the animation only once ever. I have many many clips of it never showing. In fact I posted a video of it on that Pro animation cancelling thread.
Apparently I need to L2P to dodge invisible instant 6k bear attacks
Problem with Selene is that its is too reliable. 15% means that can proc at least once in a fight. Next to that is the use in combo with cc so you eat the bear no matter what you do. And 6K free dmg in PvP (especially in no CP campaigns) hurt a lot...
Throw master of ani cancel in the equation and then you have a proc set on demand...Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique1 -
Lexifer452✭✭✭I just started playing my stamsorc again for the first time since the patch last night. I've only been playing pve, leveling undated and finishing off fighter's guild, but I have been seeing the proc animation from selene's every time so far. Seems more frequent than it used to be. Just trying out viper also, because why the hell not, and for the life of me I can never tell when it goes off. Is there any kind of animation for that one? Or just an extra damage number when it procs?
The selene's animation issue might just be because of lag and what have you in pvp.0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Lexifer452 it adds the damage to an already existing attack, so there might be an animation like Red Mountain, for Red Mountain your weapon has a little flame animation, I would look for some small animation on your weapon (I would assume something green?)0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »I'll be honest, I have seen the animation only once ever. I have many many clips of it never showing. In fact I posted a video of it on that Pro animation cancelling thread.
Apparently I need to L2P to dodge invisible instant 6k bear attacks
Problem with Selene is that its is too reliable. 15% means that can proc at least once in a fight. Next to that is the use in combo with cc so you eat the bear no matter what you do. And 6K free dmg in PvP (especially in no CP campaigns) hurt a lot...
Throw master of ani cancel in the equation and then you have a proc set on demand...
Too be fair it is melee only and it can be dodge rolled + blocked if your blocking at the time.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »I'll be honest, I have seen the animation only once ever. I have many many clips of it never showing. In fact I posted a video of it on that Pro animation cancelling thread.
Apparently I need to L2P to dodge invisible instant 6k bear attacks
Problem with Selene is that its is too reliable. 15% means that can proc at least once in a fight. Next to that is the use in combo with cc so you eat the bear no matter what you do. And 6K free dmg in PvP (especially in no CP campaigns) hurt a lot...
Throw master of ani cancel in the equation and then you have a proc set on demand...
Too be fair it is melee only and it can be dodge rolled + blocked if your blocking at the time.
And that is a really big if. And quite frankly is still horrible design. I as a player must hold block and wait for my opponent to choose when to engage?? Meaning every advantage goes to the proc player - engagement decision, optimal positioning, max resources.
And block casting is pretty redonkulious unto itself, yet alone not a good counterEdited by Waffennacht on June 12, 2017 8:01PM0 -
Lexifer452✭✭✭@Waffennacht
Thanks. That's what I wasn't sure of. So it will just be an additional damage number popping up on mêlée attacks I guess. I would think it would be like that and not just add the 7800 or whatever poison damage onto an existing number.
Either way, i'll keep my eyes open and see if I can see any subtle animation or coloring on my weapons.
Good stuff. Just couldn't tell if it was working or not, ya know?1 -
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✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »I'll be honest, I have seen the animation only once ever. I have many many clips of it never showing. In fact I posted a video of it on that Pro animation cancelling thread.
Apparently I need to L2P to dodge invisible instant 6k bear attacks
Problem with Selene is that its is too reliable. 15% means that can proc at least once in a fight. Next to that is the use in combo with cc so you eat the bear no matter what you do. And 6K free dmg in PvP (especially in no CP campaigns) hurt a lot...
Throw master of ani cancel in the equation and then you have a proc set on demand...
Too be fair it is melee only and it can be dodge rolled + blocked if your blocking at the time.
In a world with poisons and CC, that's not something quite fairSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique1 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »I'll be honest, I have seen the animation only once ever. I have many many clips of it never showing. In fact I posted a video of it on that Pro animation cancelling thread.
Apparently I need to L2P to dodge invisible instant 6k bear attacks
Problem with Selene is that its is too reliable. 15% means that can proc at least once in a fight. Next to that is the use in combo with cc so you eat the bear no matter what you do. And 6K free dmg in PvP (especially in no CP campaigns) hurt a lot...
Throw master of ani cancel in the equation and then you have a proc set on demand...
Too be fair it is melee only and it can be dodge rolled + blocked if your blocking at the time.
And that is a really big if. And quite frankly is still horrible design. I as a player must hold block and wait for my opponent to choose when to engage?? Meaning every advantage goes to the proc player - engagement decision, optimal positioning, max resources.
And block casting is pretty redonkulious unto itself, yet alone not a good counter
Got an idea, a build with winterborn and Ice furnace, to make stam build suffer the procalypse...
ok not...Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique1 -
wildbear247✭✭✭Yeah I think Selene's might be bugged. Prior to the Morrowind patch I seem to recall this set behaved differently and was easier to dodge. But this weekend in Battlegrounds it seemed like when an enemy Selene triggered I would get this wicked lag...and then I'd get hit by Selene and several other abilities which offered zero time to counter-play (e.g. heal and roll dodge). This poster's video shows what I was experiencing in the Battlegrounds...although I seem to recall the bear would often show but due to the consistent lag from that set I couldn't respond most of the time (which meant if I wasn't full health I died).Waffennacht wrote: »On console. It's deliberately done. Yours shows @akray21 because you're not doing it right
Just watch the clip. BTW I'm purposely not closing range and it's an example video of Selenehttps://youtu.be/26sm6J46gNU
What @#$_ing bear?
Edit example video, BTW was dead before CC break animation even finishes
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✭✭✭✭I died to a Selene's/ Viper guy tonight when he was in mid heavy attack. He never actually hit me. I mean, maybe he did. If was in my recap. But with my eyes, he literally never hit me.
Other than that, my Magplar is doing quite well. So, whatever. Everyone needs some kryptonite.0 -
Czirne✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »I died to a Selene's/ Viper guy tonight when he was in mid heavy attack. He never actually hit me. I mean, maybe he did. If was in my recap. But with my eyes, he literally never hit me.
Other than that, my Magplar is doing quite well. So, whatever. Everyone needs some kryptonite.
It seems more like lag issue.I believe in lagless Cyrodiil!0 -
THEDKEXPERIENCE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »I died to a Selene's/ Viper guy tonight when he was in mid heavy attack. He never actually hit me. I mean, maybe he did. If was in my recap. But with my eyes, he literally never hit me.
Other than that, my Magplar is doing quite well. So, whatever. Everyone needs some kryptonite.
It seems more like lag issue.
Probably was. It was mostly just funny watching my guy melt when the guy still had his sword in the air. It was like watching a poorly executed pro wrestling match.
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