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Proposed change to the Maelstrom loot table (Edited/updated)

Qbiken
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Another Maelstrom thread *sigh*...(am I right xD)

But this one is a little different from the others that you are used to see, because I`m not going to talk about the maelstrom weapons. Lately I´ve been thinking about the other sets that drop in Maelstrom Arena, and how the way the "drops" works for these sets differs a lot compared to how it works for other trialinstances (maelstrom arena is considered a trial after all. With One Tamriel rings/necklace and weapons/Shields were added for all existing sets (with appropriate traits). For some reason the Orsinium loot table in generall, and the Maelstrom arena loot more specificly, were somehow left out of these changes.

Aside for the Maelstrom Weapons dropping from the veteran version of the dungeon there´re a few other sets that can be obtained from Maelstrom arena.

* Elemental Succession
* Winterborn
* Hunt Leader
* Para Bellum
* Glorious defender
* Permafrost

You can obtain set-pieces from "Chest of Champions" after each round from stage 1-8 (also after stage 9 if you complete nMaelstrom arena, but on veteran you get a maelstrom weapon instead). Now there´re some things that bothers me regarding they way the drops for these sets work:

* Traits:First of all that these sets doesn´t come in all traits when it comes to the body parts. They don´t exist in Impenetrable or sturdy (they don´t exist in prosperous or training either but I think that´s a good thing).

* Jewlery:Another thing that bothers me is the fact that there exist no Epic/purple quality rings of these sets. In vMSA on some stages (think stage 7-8) you can drop a purple quality necklace. On normal MSA you can get a blue jewelpiece from the chest on stage 9 (last boss). You can also get a golden/legendary ring from the weekly rewards. But I haven´t seen any purple ring in the sets named above after One Tamriel. So in conclussion you can get blue, purple and gold necklace, but only gold and blue rings.

In other trials (Hel-Ra, AA, SO, MoL, HoF) the only way to get Purple rings is to get them from the weekly coffer. In vDSA you can get Purple rings from chests after each round. Since there´s no such thing as a weekly coffer in vMA, Purple rings are un-obtainable at the moment.

Some of you may think that these sets are so bad that they don´t deserve this attention, but that´s not the point here. How good/bad the sets are is a matter of another disscussion/thread.

My Suggestions
* Add Impenetrable and Sturdy as available traits for these sets. Also add weapons/Shields to the loottable for these sets. Make them drop on last boss both in veteran and normal (On veteran this drops in addition to the maelstrom weapon). This goes very well hand-in-hand with the "One Tamriel spirit" where all sets should be available for every item slot.

* Make purple rings drop on vetaran MSA in addition to the maelstrom weapon. Makes no sense that rings only comes in blue and golden quality, but necklace can come in blue, purple and golden quality. Another suggestion is to add a weekly coffer after completing vMA the first in a week on a character, with the coffer having a 100% chance to drop rings or weapons of the sets that can be found in the "Chest of Champions".

Since I´ve no idea who´s responsible for these kind of things I´ll tag the devs that I know sneaks around these forums ;)
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom



Edited by Qbiken on June 9, 2017 8:19AM
  • Qbiken
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    Updated/edited with more suggestions.
  • Qbiken
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    @Turelus Your name was the first to came to my mind (of the ambassadors), but do you know which one of the devs that might be responsible for these kind of stuff that I take up in my post?? :)
    Edited by Qbiken on June 9, 2017 6:24AM
  • Turelus
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    Last I knew Wrobel did the balance for sets (this is old information from a podcast with him).

    As for changes to how itemisation is set out on don't know, ZOS doesn't make their dev list very accessible. I would imagine Rich has some oversight in it, but honestly I can't help on which dev specifically would handle item drop tables.

    As for you threads main points I will also throw my backing behind it because they're simple and fair requests which don't touch on any of the subject which often cause debates. There isn't a reason these sets shouldn't have better access and full traits/slots options.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • Qbiken
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Last I knew Wrobel did the balance for sets (this is old information from a podcast with him).

    As for changes to how itemisation is set out on don't know, ZOS doesn't make their dev list very accessible. I would imagine Rich has some oversight in it, but honestly I can't help on which dev specifically would handle item drop tables.

    As for you threads main points I will also throw my backing behind it because they're simple and fair requests which don't touch on any of the subject which often cause debates. There isn't a reason these sets shouldn't have better access and full traits/slots options.

    Ok, I assumed you might have some insight on that (since you´re a Community Ambassador) but thanks for the reply :)

    @ZOS_RichLambert
    Edited by Qbiken on June 9, 2017 7:22AM
  • Malmai
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    No u should pledge for certain weapon you want to farm and than they can leave rng for traits... so u atleast have chance to get what you want... because i dont know how many times i did it already but still missing light staff and greatsword...
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    Malmai wrote: »
    No u should pledge for certain weapon you want to farm and than they can leave rng for traits... so u atleast have chance to get what you want... because i dont know how many times i did it already but still missing light staff and greatsword...
    Did you actually read the thread?
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • Blackbird_V
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    Qbiken wrote: »

    In other trials (Hel-Ra, AA, SO, MoL, HoF) the only way to get Purple rings is to get them from the weekly coffer. Or you can also invest Points into one of the CP-trees to increase the quality of loot from LOCKED chests. Since there´s no such thing as a weekly coffer in vMA, Purple rings are un-obtainable at the moment.




    Wrong. Treasure hunter makes simple intermediate. Intermediate advanced. Advanced master. It doesn't upgrade colour.
    Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game.
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    BlackbirdV wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »

    In other trials (Hel-Ra, AA, SO, MoL, HoF) the only way to get Purple rings is to get them from the weekly coffer. Or you can also invest Points into one of the CP-trees to increase the quality of loot from LOCKED chests. Since there´s no such thing as a weekly coffer in vMA, Purple rings are un-obtainable at the moment.


    Wrong. Treasure hunter makes simple intermediate. Intermediate advanced. Advanced master. It doesn't upgrade colour.

    Thx for the info, edited my original post :)
  • pdebie64b16_ESO
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    Stage 8 gave me a blue necklace yesterday on normal mode.
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