Help with Stamblade

Anysra · June 2017

Hi all,
I just made a Stamina Nightblade. And aimed for DPS. I was a Magicka Nightblade and it was fun in PvE. I mean, each hit was like 16.3K so it was good to do damage to Adds.

My previous magblade stats:
Spell damage: 2342
Spell Critical Chance: 78%
Magicka: 43k
HP: 16.7k
Set:
5x Julianos
4x Magnus
1x Fire staff (Precise)
1x Resto Staff (For resources)

Neck and rings = Willpower (Arcane) with Enchant (Spell Power)

Mundus: Thief

I used to be a Vampire and use Heavy attacks and Funnel health. I also used some bomb skills. I was survivable. After the patch of Morrowind, my resource management was not OK. So I decided to do more heavy attacks. And also used Leeching Srikes for magicka. I could almost one hit adds but with buffs. Without any buffs its just 2x Funnel health and they are dead.
And now with my stamblade.

Stambalde stats:

Weapon damage: 2230*ish
Weapon Crit Chance: 80% *For some weird reason it hit 117% sometimes *
Stamina: 34k
HP: 17.6k

Set:
5x Night Mothers Gaze
4x Hundings Rage

1x Bow hunding with Precise
2x Daggers hunding with Precise

Mundus: Thief

Rings and set (no idea but it has Robust (stamina) and it is purple and it gives me 200 wep dmg and some crits and stamina.
With my stamblade I make 23k each hit with the bow (Snipe). Which is awesome. But with ALL other skills I do 13k damage. No idea how and why. My stats are almost the same with my Magblade. But the crit is higher and the weapon damage is higher with skills.

Both of the builds I have 13k spell penetration. Well, almost. In champion system I have it set to 30 points.

What I have experienced: In PvE, Stamblade is (mwah) I do more damage and FASTER with Magblade. In PvP I did more damage against players with magblade. I run out of stamina very fast. I don’t run out of magicka from magblade at all.

This is what I have experienced.

1. Stamblade resource: Bad
2. Magblade resource: Good
3. Stamblade overall damage: Average in PvE | Bad in PvP
4. Magblade overall damage: Good in PvE | Okay with PvP
5. Stamblade is awesome (My playstyle) but no idea why weak af
6. Magblade and stamblade has almost the same stats

What am I doing wrong? Can someone help me please? I really want to play as a Stamblade DPS as an Asassin. 

IlCanis_LupuslI · June 2017

Welcome to the World of a stamblade ^^
It basically depends on the und am to Burst people down in PvP . Drop thief, use Shadow in PvP for higher Burst your crit is high enough. And learn to Animation cancel its very Important while playing the stamblade also weaving is very essential.

IlCanis_LupuslI · June 2017

And for substain use leeching strikes if you have substain issues also have a look @ bonepirate set

Anysra · June 2017

Mangeli200194 wrote: »

Welcome to the World of a stamblade ^^
It basically depends on the und am to Burst people down in PvP . Drop thief, use Shadow in PvP for higher Burst your crit is high enough. And learn to Animation cancel its very Important while playing the stamblade also weaving is very essential.

Hello! Thank you for your reply.

While I was making my Stamblade I was excited. It looked very cool and it was just the way how I ever wanted. A female assassin with white hair and black armor with crazy daggers. Just my fantasy

. But, until I tested it. I was heartbroken.

Okay, with PvE I do average damage. Not that OP but still it is okay for me. With bow skill (Snipe) I do 20k+ that is very good for me. But the other skills like the one in the shadow (the first skill, don’t remember it’s name). It only hit like 13k *Crit*. While on my magblade that same skill was the best (18k). The only difference I can see is maybe the Weapon and Spell damage. On my magblade it was 2342 and on my stamblade it is I think 100 points lower. But with all those buffs I hit 2.9k damage so still not good as my magblade. So the only thing I can do is only Snipe to kill fast.

That is bothering me atm.

IlCanis_LupuslI · June 2017

Use sharpened weapons, drop Hundings for bonepirate, maby run leki 2x daggers and 3 x agility jewlery, and 2x bloodspawn(or 1x kina, 1x bloodwork) even 2x selenes is also very good.

IlCanis_LupuslI · June 2017

Use flying blade for major brutality and make those 2 daggers sharpened Gold (very important)

IlCanis_LupuslI · June 2017

And use incapacitating strike as your ulti, put a few cp under “direkt damage“ and sharpened

Anysra · June 2017

Thank you @Mangeli200194!

So Sharpened is also good for PvE?

Voxicity · June 2017

Ekstak21 wrote: »

3. Stamblade overall damage: Average in PvE | Bad in PvP

As a stamblade pvper, this makes me chuckle

thebattlesaintb14_ESO · June 2017

Voxicity wrote: »

Ekstak21 wrote: »

3. Stamblade overall damage: Average in PvE | Bad in PvP

As a stamblade pvper, this makes me chuckle

As another Stamblade PVPer, I agree. Stamblades are the one class where you have to learn to play. They aren't easy mode like Sorcs. They're more challenging to play. But once you learn a stamblade

.......

Anysra · June 2017

thebattlesaintb14_ESO wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Ekstak21 wrote: »

3. Stamblade overall damage: Average in PvE | Bad in PvP

As a stamblade pvper, this makes me chuckle

As another Stamblade PVPer, I agree. Stamblades are the one class where you have to learn to play. They aren't easy mode like Sorcs. They're more challenging to play. But once you learn a stamblade .......

Omg teach me senpai

I mean, i don't want to be annoying or bothering but. Where can I find a good guide how I can make my stamblade great? I have followed tutorials on YouTube but those are all outdated. I have searched on Google to find a good build etc but still I don't know where to start.

Anysra · June 2017

Voxicity wrote: »

Ekstak21 wrote: »

3. Stamblade overall damage: Average in PvE | Bad in PvP

As a stamblade pvper, this makes me chuckle

I know right

But don't get me wrong. This is what I experience. Not that it is bad. Otherwise, I wouldn't make a stamblade in the first place.

thebattlesaintb14_ESO · June 2017

@hat NB's" that can burn a Sorc's shield down in @.7 seconds(my average) Like Voxicity and I (and I'm not even all that leet)

NB's take practice. There is a reason ZOS hammered them with nerfpocolypse a while ago. Once you get the hand of it, everything else becomes easy mode, or a potential source of healing.
Embrace the unforgiving nature of the NB, and the rewards are pretty awesome

thebattlesaintb14_ESO · June 2017

so your forum ate the first 3/4 of my post ZOS.

IlCanis_LupuslI · June 2017

Ekstak21 wrote: »

Thank you @Mangeli200194!

So Sharpened is also good for PvE?

Definitely, best in slot

IlCanis_LupuslI · June 2017

Ekstak21 wrote: »

thebattlesaintb14_ESO wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Ekstak21 wrote: »

3. Stamblade overall damage: Average in PvE | Bad in PvP

As a stamblade pvper, this makes me chuckle

As another Stamblade PVPer, I agree. Stamblades are the one class where you have to learn to play. They aren't easy mode like Sorcs. They're more challenging to play. But once you learn a stamblade .......

Omg teach me senpai I mean, i don't want to be annoying or bothering but. Where can I find a good guide how I can make my stamblade great? I have followed tutorials on YouTube but those are all outdated. I have searched on Google to find a good build etc but still I don't know where to start.

Look for a PvP guild, ask the most experienced stamblade for Tipps and tricks concerning stamblade in PvP!!

IlCanis_LupuslI · June 2017

thebattlesaintb14_ESO wrote: »

@hat NB's" that can burn a Sorc's shield down in @.7 seconds(my average) Like Voxicity and I (and I'm not even all that leet)

NB's take practice. There is a reason ZOS hammered them with nerfpocolypse a while ago. Once you get the hand of it, everything else becomes easy mode, or a potential source of healing.
Embrace the unforgiving nature of the NB, and the rewards are pretty awesome

Thats what Oblivion damage glyphs are for