[BUG]Chest piece disappears under my tabard !

Ralen · December 2016

Hi everyone,
Hi ZoS, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Since the addition of the Trinimac Style (one year ago or so), I noticed that the chest pieces from most new styles weren't visually compatible with a guild tabard. When you wear a guild tabard, the chest piece under it is replaced by a filthy dark texture. If you want a notable exemple, this happen with the chest piece from the new Skinchanger style.

Is ZoS planning to fix this recurring and annoying visual glitch ?

Thanks for answers

Ralen · December 2016

Some screenshots to show you the thing

On Trinimac Style :

Without tabard

With tabard

On Dark Brotherhood Style :

Whitout tabard

With tabard

And on the beautiful Skinchanger Style :

Without tabard

With tabard

Well, we agree, this is ugly ?

Ralen · June 2017

I reopen this thread for two reasons...

First, no devs has answered to my remark, apparently no interest ...

Secondly, the bug that I pointed out is still active on the game and I come to think that it is not a bug but rather a lack of devs courage to propose styles that adapt to the tabard.

A few screenshots to illustrate -again- this ugly glitch with the news Morag Tong style :

Medium Morag Tong chest -without tabard-

Medium Morag Tong chest -with tabard- VANISHED !

Heavy Morag Tong chest - without tabard-

Heavy Morag Tong chest -with tabard- VANISHED !

Come on ZOS ! @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom How can you have left such an old glitch on the game without ever doing anything ... So we can not wear a tabard AND new style chest since Orsinium ?! It's a bit scandalous ...

Ralen · June 2017

So nobody care about it?...

Everybody put away his tabard because ZoS does not fix a glitch?

starkerealm · June 2017

It's not a glitch, it's a failsafe.

When talbards were introduced, your body and leg armor didn't have unique meshes. The basic racial styles, the original 4 rare motifs, dwemer, glass, and a few other styles that were in the game back then (even if they weren't craftable), are actually painted onto your character.

With those, the talbards work fine. Any other armor replaces the chest piece when you equip a talbard.

Avran_Sylt · June 2017

starkerealm wrote: »

It's not a glitch, it's a failsafe.

When talbards were introduced, your body and leg armor didn't have unique meshes. The basic racial styles, the original 4 rare motifs, dwemer, glass, and a few other styles that were in the game back then (even if they weren't craftable), are actually painted onto your character.

With those, the talbards work fine. Any other armor replaces the chest piece when you equip a talbard.

Which means ZoS needs interns or outsourced workers to add in the armor models with the tabard variants. With E3 coming up I doubt it'd be even close to a priority right now.

Ralen · June 2017

starkerealm wrote: »

It's not a glitch, it's a failsafe.

When talbards were introduced, your body and leg armor didn't have unique meshes. The basic racial styles, the original 4 rare motifs, dwemer, glass, and a few other styles that were in the game back then (even if they weren't craftable), are actually painted onto your character.

With those, the talbards work fine. Any other armor replaces the chest piece when you equip a talbard.

Which mean also ZoS didn't do the job that was expected of him since the Orsinium release... @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Any information of this bug ? Is it possible to back this information to concerned development team ?

Khenarthi · June 2017

Off topic, your character looks awesome with that beard (scary/grumpy, but really fierce).

In topic, it's as @starkerealm and @Avran_Sylt have said. Working as intended when tabards were introduced, and not really a priority nowadays. Still, it's worth sending a /bug report in game.

Laegwing · June 2017

Agree with @Ralen . That needs to be fixed

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Bobcat · June 2017

TESO is such a lovely games and we have lovely armors. Just shame of that bug. So it's that ? We have to choose : pretty armor or tabard ? I want both, as Ralen.

Anne_Firehawk · June 2017

It's been like this for pretty much every new Style after Dark Brotherhood, they just dont care anymore and with a Tabard equipped all the styles look the same under it

starkerealm · June 2017

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

It's been like this for pretty much every new Style after Dark Brotherhood, they just dont care anymore and with a Tabard equipped all the styles look the same under it

Thieves Guild. I remember first encountering this right after Hew's Bane dropped. Again, that was around the first time we saw ZOS actually developing new meshes for their armor instead of just painting it onto the models. I think the first thing we got our hands on that actually did this was the Nord Hero costume, and the Trinimac motif. Of course, once Hew's Bane dropped, the Thieves Guild outfits were all given meshes, and those popped up all over the place. The outlaw motif was in the game (though unobtainable) at launch, so those were just painted on. Same thing goes for Ashlander, Nedic, Celestial, Yokudan, and a few other motifs that didn't become craftible until more recently (or in the case of Nedic, still aren't).

Llevndryn · June 2017

I agree, that glitch is really ugly.