One More Skillpoint

Atronach · June 2017

Just checked that, you get 1 skillpoint for each of tutorials. Yes, 1 more.
Pre-Morrowind characters got their compensation for unability to complete new tutorial with a skillpoint reward? My best friend just stopped playing, when I told him, that he can't get this single skillpoint with his main char.
If old characters have less skill points, are there any plans to fix it? If my friend will write to support, will they give him that point? I don't want to play alone

Sigtric · June 2017

Currently I don't think there's any way for existing characters to get it and I have not seen anything official addressing it.

However, there are so many skill points available in the game already it's really a non issue. 1 point isn't going to make the difference between getting all your skills/passives or not.

imnotanother · June 2017

Another one of these threads?

I have a few point to spare, if you need them that bad.

idk · June 2017

First, there is another active thread on this subject.

Second, something else is in play if someone is quitting over one skillpoint out of the hundreds in game already. It's much more than just that.

Tasear · June 2017

Still an oversight, would be nice to get after starting quest.

Bringer · June 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Second, something else is in play if someone is quitting over one skillpoint out of the hundreds in game already. It's much more than just that.

I deleted and re-rolled to get that skill point. If i had a very high alliance war rank or something i might have decided to just quit. People like you and mmo devs need to realize that people with OCD make up a significant demographic of the mmo playerbase, always have. This skill point is a serious issue, and given that it should never have been an issue, has been stated to not be the intended way the tutorials work, but not even been acknowledged as existing by an official source is very disheartening. The practical reality of 1 skillpoints immediate impact being fairly low means that they could simply say "we are aware of this issue and plan on fixing it at some point". This would be enough to 'fix' the issue to most people it is currently bothering as whether that point is obtained now or several months from now doesn't really matter, but not knowing if that potential is permanently lost leaves people in limbo where they dont feel like doing anything else in the game and may end up quitting due to inactivity.

Aliyavana · June 2017

Bringer wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Second, something else is in play if someone is quitting over one skillpoint out of the hundreds in game already. It's much more than just that.

I deleted and re-rolled to get that skill point. If i had a very high alliance war rank or something i might have decided to just quit. People like you and mmo devs need to realize that people with OCD make up a significant demographic of the mmo playerbase, always have. This skill point is a serious issue, and given that it should never have been an issue, has been stated to not be the intended way the tutorials work, but not even been acknowledged as existing by an official source is very disheartening. The practical reality of 1 skillpoints immediate impact being fairly low means that they could simply say "we are aware of this issue and plan on fixing it at some point". This would be enough to 'fix' the issue to most people it is currently bothering as whether that point is obtained now or several months from now doesn't really matter, but not knowing if that potential is permanently lost leaves people in limbo where they dont feel like doing anything else in the game and may end up quitting due to inactivity.

As a perfectionist this affects me too and the fact that they have yet to have commented is aggrovating. I have 22k achievement points so i won't reroll but I am just mad

Danksta · June 2017

That's silly considering there's a very likely chance that your friend is already leaving skill points on the table.

Aeladiir · June 2017

So how does a Morrowind character go and do the old tutorial? I just created a new character, finished Morrowind tutorial, but never really got the option for the old one. When does it happen?

Bringer · June 2017

Aeladiir wrote: »

So how does a Morrowind character go and do the old tutorial? I just created a new character, finished Morrowind tutorial, but never really got the option for the old one. When does it happen?

You go to the mainland and walk around the starting cities or something, im not sure what triggers it, i did it around level 30something on my morrowind character i beleive. You are aproached by a quest giver who asks you to follow them and the whole main storyline quest kicks off, starting with the tutorial.

Nifty2g · June 2017

Some people in this thread and in general seem to forget that others like to collect, just cause the guy isnt using the skill point doesn't excuse the oversight zos made and that skill point is probably bugging his friend.

FlyLionel · June 2017

I thought you automatically got the skill point once you skipped? They changed that? Wonder why.

Wreuntzylla · June 2017

The fact that you lose skill points by saving a main character from shacking up endlessly with Sheogorath must drive you batty then.

Bringer · June 2017

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

The fact that you lose skill points by saving a main character from shacking up endlessly with Sheogorath must drive you batty then.

Thats a choice you can make, Its kind of crummy how it works but i assure you anyone who would be bothered sufficiently by it would have made sure to know about these kinds of things from day1, or if it happened long enough ago, just rerolled by now to fix it.

Also i tend to see that as the good end, she sounded so happy.. and after all, that kind of environment could be good for a mage you know, shes not just some random person. Could show up in the future with immense power.

EramTheLiar · June 2017

People who don't do the tutorial get their very own quest that actually sets up part of the end of the tutorial and you get a skill point for completing it. At least, I did.

jlboozer · June 2017

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

The fact that you lose skill points by saving a main character from shacking up endlessly with Sheogorath must drive you batty then.

I didn't lose those... I sent her packing for 2 skill points. I'm ruthless when it comes to skill points, and having one that is unobtainable does bother me. I need every skill point that I can get...

Atronach · June 2017

EramTheLiar wrote: »

People who don't do the tutorial get their very own quest that actually sets up part of the end of the tutorial and you get a skill point for completing it. At least, I did.

I can't find the name of this quest. I need exact proofs for that, sir.

Cêltic421 · June 2017

How do new characters get an extra skill point? Are they able to do both tutorial?

Zardayne · June 2017

quit for 1 skill point...geez..really?

Bouldercleave · June 2017

Atronach wrote: »

Just checked that, you get 1 skillpoint for each of tutorials. Yes, 1 more.
Pre-Morrowind characters got their compensation for unability to complete new tutorial with a skillpoint reward? My best friend just stopped playing, when I told him, that he can't get this single skillpoint with his main char.
If old characters have less skill points, are there any plans to fix it? If my friend will write to support, will they give him that point? I don't want to play alone

Your friend stopped playing just because he will be missing 1 skill point at endgame when there are 478,390,047 total skill points?

I'm calling BS.

starkerealm · June 2017

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

The fact that you lose skill points by saving a main character from shacking up endlessly with Sheogorath must drive you batty then.

Well, he is the god of madness, after all.

G0ku · June 2017

At the start public dungeons group challenges were bugged, skillpoints were lost for those who did these groupchallenges. These skillpoints weren´t awarded afterwards either.

But they ban players who get too much in public dungeon.. double standards. btw no salt, didnt get in public dungeon in VV until it was fixed

nine9six · June 2017

He quit over a skill point?

Bouldercleave · June 2017

nine9six wrote: »

He quit over a skill point?

No, that just gives the story more impact... If they did quit for that, well then - LOL

JesterH · June 2017

Atronach wrote: »

Just checked that, you get 1 skillpoint for each of tutorials. Yes, 1 more.
Pre-Morrowind characters got their compensation for unability to complete new tutorial with a skillpoint reward? My best friend just stopped playing, when I told him, that he can't get this single skillpoint with his main char.
If old characters have less skill points, are there any plans to fix it? If my friend will write to support, will they give him that point? I don't want to play alone

So he quit for 1! Point? Seems a bit much no?

HatchetHaro · June 2017

To people bashing OP's friend for quitting over a skillpoint:

OCD is no joke.

I have relatively mild OCD, and it got me into trouble many times until I learned to ignore it. It nags at you constantly and makes you extremely uncomfortable. I'm a perfectionist, and I lost half of my motivation for playing Warframe when I missed a daily login reward due to being on an international flight; that's how powerful OCD can be.

More severe forms of OCD can actually ruin lives.

We can't "get over it"; it's not that simple.

Minno · June 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

Currently I don't think there's any way for existing characters to get it and I have not seen anything official addressing it.

However, there are so many skill points available in the game already it's really a non issue. 1 point isn't going to make the difference between getting all your skills/passives or not.

Yea I have over 300. I can pick all the crafting lines, all my class passives, 2 weapon lines with selected skills and still have 30-40 left over for emergencies.

nine9six · June 2017

HatchetHaro wrote: »

To people bashing OP's friend for quitting over a skillpoint:

OCD is no joke.

I have relatively mild OCD, and it got me into trouble many times until I learned to ignore it. It nags at you constantly and makes you extremely uncomfortable. I'm a perfectionist, and I lost half of my motivation for playing Warframe when I missed a daily login reward due to being on an international flight; that's how powerful OCD can be.

More severe forms of OCD can actually ruin lives.

We can't "get over it"; it's not that simple.

I have OCD to an extent. More so than any of my friends. There are things you'll have to "let go" of when in an environment you cannot control.

ESO is that environment.

Atronach · June 2017

JesterH wrote: »

Atronach wrote: »

Just checked that, you get 1 skillpoint for each of tutorials. Yes, 1 more.
Pre-Morrowind characters got their compensation for unability to complete new tutorial with a skillpoint reward? My best friend just stopped playing, when I told him, that he can't get this single skillpoint with his main char.
If old characters have less skill points, are there any plans to fix it? If my friend will write to support, will they give him that point? I don't want to play alone

So he quit for 1! Point? Seems a bit much no?

I will not judge him for that. It makes him very sad to play so long, get tied with his character for all that time, and get answer from ZOS like "You are more then welcome to create new character in Morrowind expansion", it is a quote, no joke.

EramTheLiar · June 2017

Atronach wrote: »

EramTheLiar wrote: »

People who don't do the tutorial get their very own quest that actually sets up part of the end of the tutorial and you get a skill point for completing it. At least, I did.

I can't find the name of this quest. I need exact proofs for that, sir.

I don't remember the name, but I can tell you how to start it.

Take an existing character to Seda Neen. Pop into the governor's office. You'll notice the governor is a dude, not the lady who berates you in the tutorial.

You will find that lady - currently a lieutenant governor - hanging out in Seda neen proper. She has a mission for you about the watchtower fire mysteriously going out.

Aliyavana · June 2017

EramTheLiar wrote: »

Atronach wrote: »

EramTheLiar wrote: »

People who don't do the tutorial get their very own quest that actually sets up part of the end of the tutorial and you get a skill point for completing it. At least, I did.

I can't find the name of this quest. I need exact proofs for that, sir.

I don't remember the name, but I can tell you how to start it.

Take an existing character to Seda Neen. Pop into the governor's office. You'll notice the governor is a dude, not the lady who berates you in the tutorial.

You will find that lady - currently a lieutenant governor - hanging out in Seda neen proper. She has a mission for you about the watchtower fire mysteriously going out.

That one grants no skillpoint