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Does flurry proc Viper and Implosion passive ?

anathosdm
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Since it s considered as a DoT, but still a melee damage.
Thx for answers.
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Flurry isn't considered melee damage.
  • anathosdm
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    Then no viper/impoosion proc ?
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Implosion procs from physical dmg. Flurry is physical and DoT but not melee. Should not proc viper, ravager etc. but should proc implosion. Maybe I test this later on but results should be like what I said
  • Brrrofski
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    How is flurry not melee?

    It's a dot, but anything under 8m is considered melee is it not?
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Bc of a "bug"
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/344661/ravager-set-bugs-with-flurry-flurry-is-not-a-melee-attack

    I tested it now. It procs Implosion and Viper.
    I will see if they changed something without putting it in the patch notes. I try ravager next.
    Edited by Chilly-McFreeze on June 8, 2017 8:33AM
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Woops, seems they have changed it. Nice

    Or does Combat Metrics just labeles something else as "the ravager"?
    Screenshot_20170608_104103_zpsugzbwfqw.png

    Edited by Chilly-McFreeze on June 8, 2017 8:57AM
  • anathosdm
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    You mean flurry procs ravager now ? :0
    If it s true, it s the best new ever !
  • Hutch679
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    How is flurry not melee?

    It's a dot, but anything under 8m is considered melee is it not?

    Flurry is actually a channel, not a dot.
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Hutch679 wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    How is flurry not melee?

    It's a dot, but anything under 8m is considered melee is it not?

    Flurry is actually a channel, not a dot.

    And therefore boosted by taumathurg?
  • Minno
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    Hutch679 wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    How is flurry not melee?

    It's a dot, but anything under 8m is considered melee is it not?

    Flurry is actually a channel, not a dot.

    And therefore boosted by taumathurg?

    Correct, or at least it should.
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Hutch679 wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    How is flurry not melee?

    It's a dot, but anything under 8m is considered melee is it not?

    Flurry is actually a channel, not a dot.

    Got in a long drawn out argument about this. Essentially in previous games I've played, channels were distinct from DoTs, because the damage is only being done provided you continue to channel. In essence you were not applying damage over time, you were channeling damage for as long as you continued to channel. Thus being a unique mid point between DoT's and Direct Damage.

    It is damage over time per cast, but it isn't a ground or target (application and forget) damage over time. Ultimately I think its an argument over semantics related to the nature of the development of the gaming term "DOT". ZOS has created their own system and Champion Points and their relation to skills has blurred the lines of common term usage.
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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    ZOS is rather inconsistent in this one. It's physical and a DoT. But it doesn't always count as melee. For whatever reason that is.

    It procs Viper and Ravager but not Twin Blade and Blunt.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4215639/#Comment_4215639
  • Erock25
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    Holy snikes, Ravager is procced on Flurry now HAPPY DAY. It looks like it is still on just the last hit of dmg so it's not super amazing, but I'll take it.
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Something can be a dot and channel in one such as sweeps.
  • raasdal
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    Flurry is a;

    Physical Damage, Damage over Time (DoT), Channel.

    It should not be a Melee. But apparently they might have changed something, or it is bugged. 7 meter range skills are not normally considered melee.

    In this game, DoT is not in any way related to Channel. Channel is describing Cast type; Instant, Casttime and Channel. DoT is only opposite to Direct Damage.
    Edited by raasdal on June 9, 2017 8:37PM
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    It procs implosion don't know about viper though as I refuse to touch that cheese my butt in game is lactose intolerant :wink:

    But yeah Flurry is a physical melee attack. It also procs the Ravager set, fun fact.
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  • Ahzek
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    As far as I am aware all ticks of flurry are considered to be DoT except the last one.
    This means that flurry can procc ravager (which doesnt procc on DoTs) like most other melee spammables, but not with any greater chance per cast ( since the first few DoT hits cant procc it).
    Edited by Ahzek on June 10, 2017 12:54PM
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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    It procs implosion don't know about viper though as I refuse to touch that cheese my butt in game is lactose intolerant :wink:

    But yeah Flurry is a physical melee attack. It also procs the Ravager set, fun fact.

    If isn't always considered melee. It wont proc twin blade and blunt axe bleed.
    And yes, it procs Implosion, Viper and Ravager. Like I posted in a link above.
  • anathosdm
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    It procs implosion don't know about viper though as I refuse to touch that cheese my butt in game is lactose intolerant :wink:

    But yeah Flurry is a physical melee attack. It also procs the Ravager set, fun fact.

    If isn't always considered melee. It wont proc twin blade and blunt axe bleed.
    And yes, it procs Implosion, Viper and Ravager. Like I posted in a link above.

    Ravageer only on last tick of flurry ?
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