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ZOS - Dont ruined PvP, nerf PROC SET.
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭#Insightfull, love all the arguments and all the Points you make. Feeling very convinced.8 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭gethemshauna wrote: »That english in a title.
yeap, bad
(and i really DONT care) anyway, ZOS, nerf proc SET! Edited by Juli'St on June 8, 2017 6:54AM0 -
JamieAubrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Is PvP ruined or do you want ZOS to not ruin PvP ?
Edited by JamieAubrey on June 8, 2017 6:58AM4 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Proccsets needs to go away.
Defenition of a procset is that there´s a % chance for something to occur (by this defenition Viper isn´t a procset, since I don´t Think that something that has a 100% chance to occur Everything 4 seconds is a proc set). That would mean removing all such set containing a % chance to proc:
RIP to:
- All monster helmets (since all of them are technicly proc-sets)
- A lot of healing sets such as Spellpower cure.
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Peopl Think that removing/nerfing procsets to the ground will make pvp better/funnier to them.......guess what : You´ll just find something else to complain/blame your Deaths in pvp for.
And zos never removes sets, they chance/tweak them. So procsets are here to stay.4 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭Proccsets needs to go away.
Defenition of a procset is that there´s a % chance for something to occur (by this defenition Viper isn´t a procset, since I don´t Think that something that has a 100% chance to occur Everything 4 seconds is a proc set). That would mean removing all such set containing a % chance to proc:
RIP to:
- All monster helmets (since all of them are technicly proc-sets)
- A lot of healing sets such as Spellpower cure.
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Peopl Think that removing/nerfing procsets to the ground will make pvp better/funnier to them.......guess what : You´ll just find something else to complain/blame your Deaths in pvp for.
And zos never removes sets, they chance/tweak them. So procsets are here to stay.
noups... and yeap...wait!
... proc is one of the things that should be either deleted or changed. From now on, there will be people asking for Atomic Bombs to 'kill more' and justify this with 'ah, but healer, heal', 'tank is tank', etc ...
It does not make much sense to ruin PvP or turn it into mere fun for kids to commit genocide to make youtube videos 'hey mayei yesterday 3 billion players' ...
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JamieAubrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Also proc sets are not as bad ( vipers case anyway ) not sure what other sets are OP atm0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JamieAubrey wrote: »Also proc sets are not as bad ( vipers case anyway ) not sure what other sets are OP atm
No procset is really "OP", some might need their tooltip damage lowered a bit (the ones that causes damage), but no procset is overperforming in my opinion. The reason there´s a lot/more talk about procsets now is because of the Changes to sustain. Procsets becomes more attractive with sustain-nerfs because you need to invest more into resourcemanagement for your build
> less damage. So procsets are just a way to balance the lowered damage output from the sustain nerfs.2 -
Twohothardware✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sorc shields which remained unscathed have to be nerfed before proc sets or we'll just be right back to MagSorc being a mile ahead of other classes because MagSorc doesn't have to rely on Proc sets for damage or healing.1 -
Sneaky-Snurr✭✭✭✭✭OP, I think you meant proc damage sets.
I'm all for removing/nerfing proc sets from PvP as they're unmatched for free CCs and burst damage.
In essence, proc damage sets are a very lazy and bad approach/design by ZoS as they thought these ridiculous sets, which promotes spray-and-pray, easymode/non-intuition and non-skilled play; would offset the sustain and damage nerfs in Morrowind in a good way.
Alas, ZoS got that concept totally upside down as it dumbs the game down.
I'll put this forth just to make it clear.
Proc sets aren't supposed to contribute to a huge chunk of damage in PvP, it should have been supplementary to all your other damage from class/weapons/etc abilities and not from some poorly thought out sets that randomly shoots out highly lethal damage disease spores/creatures from the ground underneath and such and such.
My take on this? Remove/nerf down proc damage sets in PvP.
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Juli'St✭✭✭✭Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »OP, I think you meant proc damage sets.
I'm all for removing/nerfing proc sets from PvP as they're unmatched for free CCs and burst damage.
In essence, proc damage sets are a very lazy and bad approach/design by ZoS as they thought these ridiculous sets, which promotes spray-and-pray, easymode/non-intuition and non-skilled play; would offset the sustain and damage nerfs in Morrowind in a good way.
Alas, ZoS got that concept totally upside down as it dumbs the game down.
I'll put this forth just to make it clear.
Proc sets aren't supposed to contribute to a huge chunk of damage in PvP, it should have been supplementary to all your other damage from class/weapons/etc abilities and not from some poorly thought out sets that randomly shoots out highly lethal damage disease spores/creatures from the ground underneath and such and such.
My take on this? Remove/nerf down proc damage sets in PvP.
Promote skilled play and educated intuition, not the other way around.
ty, buddy, yes.0 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭... I just do not like to die 47 years after I was hit by something
In my opinion, need a litle 'nerf'. Healers, please ZOS, make Templar's great again. Sorc, hey, your shield is absurd
Nbs, need more tank. DK... (i have one) ZOS really LOVE DKs (stam) -_-0 -
Coilbox✭✭✭✭Tears, nerfs and grammar mistakes coming from the PVP side. Nothing new here!Comrade, a word...0 -
Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZoS has to decide what will be the PvP, CP or No-CP. Proc sets are extremely strong in no CP and not so strong in CP campaign.
I guess they have to chose no-cp only because of the new players or only CP and then all players in Cyrodiil should be with max CP. Then they can think for balancing.
Right now they have to balance PvP, PvE, CP and NO CP. It is too much.
Because I can!0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZoS has to decide what will be the PvP, CP or No-CP. Proc sets are extremely strong in no CP and not so strong in CP campaign.
I guess they have to chose no-cp only because of the new players or only CP and then all players in Cyrodiil should be with max CP. Then they can think for balancing.
Right now they have to balance PvP, PvE, CP and NO CP. It is too much.
The day they remove CP (hope it never happens) is the day I quit. CP >>>>>>>>noCP1 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭They need to go in BGs. In CP PvP it's fine. But with no CP they are way way too strong.0 -
Sneaky-Snurr✭✭✭✭✭
@BrrrofskiThey need to go in BGs. In CP PvP it's fine. But with no CP they are way way too strong.
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