Cost poisons should be straight up deleted. I see the most experienced players throw their hands up, off their keyboard, when they have the cost poison applied to them.

Removal would be best. This is straight BS. I've tried healing, magDPS, stamDPS, tanking. Nothing works when a poison is on you. They were OP with CP..now it's just certain death.

(Or add in a cheaper Purge ability).

Its mind boggling...

The Devs know that Resource Poisons are OP and yet they dont do anything about it...

Yes, they were reduced from 60% to 30%, but so what...Resource Regen has been reduced as well, so Resource Poisons are just as effective as they once were...maybe even moreso since armor based Cost Reduction was reduced along with the Champion Point Tree changes.

Many, many, people that play this game hate Resource Poisons; either the Devs are oblivious to this fact or they just dont care...


Devs if you are reading this...

PLEASE give us a means of counterplay against these poisons (didnt you guys go on record as saying that you want to promote "counterplay based gameplay?")...

Either allow us to equip an antidote in one of our armor slots to protect against the poison, OR allow us to be able to Cleanse Poison...


I dont mind losing to a better player Devs...

What I do mind (and hate) is losing to Poison; especially since there is no defense against it...

Vicious Death is still a thing. Sorry.

LMar wrote: »

Also doesn't Purge and other cleanses cleanse poisons?

Nope...

I'm a Magicka Templar and I can tell you in no uncertain terms that Resource Poisions can NOT be cleansed...

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

I have not seen a Vicious Death in my 7 days of returning in this game. Don't ruin my mirage

Then we've not met yet. As Sotha Sil is nothing more than a brainless zergfest these days, suicide actions like proxy det + eye of the storm with vicious death set works marvellously when you run into the zerg. Surely, you run into your certain death but oh boy it's so much "fun". (*sarcasm*)

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

I have not seen a Vicious Death in my 7 days of returning in this game. Don't ruin my mirage

I have..... Rerepeatedly.... We were 5.... They Were 20... 4 zerg bombers at the tip... 3 vd procs in death recap.....
PvP in a nutshell lol

You can always counter...by using poisons as well

zacvanm wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

zacvanm wrote: »

Let's make it clear: Poisons are going to ruin noCP campaigns. It's virtually impossible to do anything when players are running increase cost poisons. Recovery is already a joke and these are just making it unplayable. What. A. Joke.

so, no cp campaigns and 60% cost poisons have been in the game for a long time now...
with morrow they drop the poisons to 30%.

Now you say they will be breaking?

Now?

How did no Cp campaigns last as long as they have with 60% potions if dropping them to 30% are going to ruin the no cp games?

I am not sure i follow your reasoning based on the fact that those same campaigns did not wither and die under 60% cost hit poisons?

Now with the changes to recovery and management, and the fact that we have one CP campaign it's game breaking. I play on PS4na and before we only had one noCP campaign..that NOBODY played in. If you wanted to fight you went to CP. they were strong AF there too, but a poison alone wasn't going to determine if the other guy/gal was going to kill you. Now it's a death sentence. They're broken. You're the only one who doesn't agree.

So poisons in non-co games at y0% were ok...

But now the cut the poisons by half (weakening them) and remove the some of the co cost factors (which did not obviously apply to non co games anyway) and they cut various non co regent capabilities to make sustain more difficult and somehow you reach the conclusion that...

The poisons that were cut are the source of current co problems and somehow its not the changes to the other regent?

If I take as gospel your premise -(that resource rundown is the primary cause of death)- and looked at the recent changes seems to me I would be concluding its the changes that HURT resources and made them worse, not the cut of a resource attack that already existed - to focus on.

Unless of course, conclusion preceded and superseded facts.

Zvorgin wrote: »

At least they make the poisons that drain the opponent resource and restore our own, we can all runs those to balance it out right?!

Roovin wrote: »

You can always counter...by using poisons as well

Ofc, we can. Also, we all can for example steal money from each others and in a future it will be lovely balanced perfect world.
Or, we all can gain big money on selling heroin (why not? it exists also as cost poisons or proccsets, and people buy and use it, no?). Lets buy and sell or use it also ye?
Ecology problems.

@Wrobel , thx, great thx for changing procsets.
But, very important question about Cost poisons is opened.
They are too powerfull. Imbalanced as hell. As i understand, the were added to the game to help players fight vs pain builds, like 60+k health templars.
But, instead, they are always are using by zergers or procset users, to completly broke your resourse management, no matter for what your build was designed, gank or long fights.
Extremly big number of strong players left eso during last year, because of these 2 things in the game (procsets and cost poisons).
And, if u try make your resourse management overprfirming, it's impossible to make high damage only as if to use procsets also, because with them u don't need stats.
Pathological Uroboros.
They ruin stam\magiska management too strong. Any compare to other poisons and enchants. It should be 16-20% cost increase instead 33%.

STEVIL wrote: »

so, no cp campaigns and 60% cost poisons have been in the game for a long time now...
with morrow they drop the poisons to 30%.

Now you say they will be breaking?

Now?

How did no Cp campaigns last as long as they have with 60% potions if dropping them to 30% are going to ruin the no cp games?

I know damn big number of good players who left eso for last year because of cost poisons (60% were absurdly stupidly strong, if u saw them on u - u probably dead in a seconds) and procsets. Cyrodiil became full of zergs of tanks with procsets and 1vX became stupid way to suicide mostly.
Not everyone like to play in big group.
Not everyone play to get into leaderboard or gain Grand Overlord title.
For example, I like the process of PvP, interesting moments, learn interesting combos or actions in a variety of situations, meet different enemies with different builds. Any interest in playing groups more than 4 ppl in or to become emperor.
Now its all ruined. Still.
80% of deathrecaps contains one or few Viper or Red mountain procs... Also a few days ago i've met guy with always double-proccin Viper. My combat text was exploding every time he ambush-ed me. 2 Vipers, 1 Selena, 1 surprise attack, 1 incap. I had from 30 to 5% health after every meet. (for understanding situation - my characted had big resists, full impenetrable gear, 5 heavy, 28k health...dodged, detect pots, what to wshould feel players who want make build with 5+ medium... light can shielding at least).
Still, u see poison effect on u every 15 seconds of active fights. Absurd.

Now, 30% cost increase are same OP *** as before were 60%. But, in nonCP, it's much worse.

Hmmm not all the poisons are so bad as resource poison. I use entrapping poison to compensate the lack of a root but I don't think it's so op. Maybe a rework for that particoular poison? Or the way you can stack effects?