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Let us pick what we wanna do in Battlegrounds!

Rustyfish101
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Before I begin, quick disclaimer, I'm not a PvP'er by any means and typically can't stand it. The only time you'll ever see me doing anything PvP related is if I need to level the Alliance War skill trees for PvE (Purge, Vigor, Caltrops). However I actually really, really, like Battlegrounds! As long as its not Deathmatch...

Right now we don't have a say in what we get to queue for for Battlegrounds which sucks. I don't enjoy being forced into a Deathmatch against hardcore PvP'ers and getting my butt handed to me. Its no fun for me and likely for them too.

I propose that ZOS does something similar to the dungeon finder (except for the bugs) where you can choose any of the types of Battlegrounds you want, Capture the Relic, Domination, and Deathmatch. Or you can do a grab bag and get bonus AP and a goodie bag, once per day. This way everyone wins!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom please tell me you have something like this in the works...
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  • Kagetenchu
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    @ZOS_RichLambert addressed this during either the reveal or an eso live after saying, in affect, that they don't want people basically camping a single game mode to prevent the modes from being packed or empty
  • Uncle_Sweetshare
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    Kagetenchu wrote: »
    @ZOS_RichLambert addressed this during either the reveal or an eso live after saying, in affect, that they don't want people basically camping a single game mode to prevent the modes from being packed or empty

    That's an absolutely terrible decision, much like the majority of the decisions made by ZOS.

    "We understand you guys really like this one game mode, and not the others, so we're going to force you to keep playing the ones you don't like! Enjoy!"
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  • Kagetenchu
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    Kagetenchu wrote: »
    @ZOS_RichLambert addressed this during either the reveal or an eso live after saying, in affect, that they don't want people basically camping a single game mode to prevent the modes from being packed or empty

    That's an absolutely terrible decision, much like the majority of the decisions made by ZOS.

    "We understand you guys really like this one game mode, and not the others, so we're going to force you to keep playing the ones you don't like! Enjoy!"

    On the flip side say no one enjoys CTF but it's your favorite game mode, so you queue and a half hour to an hour later you aren't in a game yet, so you jump into the forums a complain about long wait times for CTF and you're told no one plays CTF only TDM and then you'll ask why isn't there a way to get people to play random not choosing only one.

    TL:DR - no matter what happens someones going to complain and better this way first then move towards freedom of choice than taking it from people when it blows up in their face.
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    The can barely make the group finder sort of work now. Adding complexity to it is something I really doubt they can do.
  • itehache
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    I like it how it is. Otherwise I'm sure my friends would only want to play 1 type of game, and it would make it boring. I like that we have 3 modes and I'm happy they're random.
  • kadar
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    Before I begin, quick disclaimer, I'm not a PvP'er by any means and typically can't stand it. The only time you'll ever see me doing anything PvP related is if I need to level the Alliance War skill trees for PvE (Purge, Vigor, Caltrops). However I actually really, really, like Battlegrounds! As long as its not Deathmatch...

    Right now we don't have a say in what we get to queue for for Battlegrounds which sucks. I don't enjoy being forced into a Deathmatch against hardcore PvP'ers and getting my butt handed to me. Its no fun for me and likely for them too.

    I propose that ZOS does something similar to the dungeon finder (except for the bugs) where you can choose any of the types of Battlegrounds you want, Capture the Relic, Domination, and Deathmatch. Or you can do a grab bag and get bonus AP and a goodie bag, once per day. This way everyone wins!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom please tell me you have something like this in the works...

    I think allowing us to queue for individual BGs will introduce a whole host of problems. Those same hardcore PVPers would congregate in Deathmatch making it impossible to play there without a hardcore pre-made 4 man team. CTF would be completely empty except for Stam Sorcs wearing Cowards Armor. Queue times will be logner after dividing all the queue players by another parameter.

    Variety is the spice of life ESO.
    Edited by kadar on June 5, 2017 6:06AM
  • sigsergv
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    I think allowing us to queue for individual BGs will introduce a whole host of problems. Those same hardcore PVPers would congregate in Deathmatch making it impossible to play there without a hardcore pre-made 4 man team. CTF would be completely empty except for Stam Sorcs wearing Cowards Armor. Queue times will be logner after dividing all the queue players by another parameter.

    Variety is the spice of life ESO.

    But exactly this is happening right now. IT couldn't be worse than it is now.

  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Kagetenchu wrote: »
    Rich Lambert addressed this during either the reveal or an eso live after saying, in affect, that they don't want people basically camping a single game mode to prevent the modes from being packed or empty

    That's disappointing, sounds like we really don't have enough people playing yet.

    Hopefully if BG population increases they will add queue for specific game mode, but at the same time, allowing single game mode queue could be a factor resulting in increased population. (More people having fun may keep playing the game mode they like instead of the mode they hate)

    In other CTF/team deathmatch games like Team Fortress 2, it's a lot of fun to keep playing a specific mode, even a specific map over and over for hours. This is the best way to improve.

    Personally I'd rather play only Team Deathmatch or CTF. The domination mode is not as fun for me, seems like the objective kinda runs counter to the point of the battlegrounds feature (arena for small scale battles).

    You can have fun in Domination mode of course when you get into some fights with enemy players, but you sometimes have people on your team who only care about the score. I've had people trying to order everyone on the team to just run away from all battles and ignore enemy players, only worry about flags. OK, so you win the match, but what's the point if you spend the entire time just focused on flags instead of having fun.

    If players are not permitted to choose their preferred game mode, after they've been doing this a while, I imagine some may start treating every mode like it's deathmatch and just rack up as many enemy player kills as possible. None of these game modes provide reasonable XP or AP rewards yet, so the main reward is not winning matches but just having fun - which for many of us means getting into exciting battles and killing players.



    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on June 5, 2017 6:54AM
  • altemriel
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    Before I begin, quick disclaimer, I'm not a PvP'er by any means and typically can't stand it. The only time you'll ever see me doing anything PvP related is if I need to level the Alliance War skill trees for PvE (Purge, Vigor, Caltrops). However I actually really, really, like Battlegrounds! As long as its not Deathmatch...

    Right now we don't have a say in what we get to queue for for Battlegrounds which sucks. I don't enjoy being forced into a Deathmatch against hardcore PvP'ers and getting my butt handed to me. Its no fun for me and likely for them too.

    I propose that ZOS does something similar to the dungeon finder (except for the bugs) where you can choose any of the types of Battlegrounds you want, Capture the Relic, Domination, and Deathmatch. Or you can do a grab bag and get bonus AP and a goodie bag, once per day. This way everyone wins!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom please tell me you have something like this in the works...




    yes, I thought that from the beginning:

    1. why not let us choose CP or non-CP?
    2. poisons or non-poisons
    3. level range, at least under 50, 50+
    4. which arena to play
    5. which mode to play
  • Qbiken
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    Kagetenchu wrote: »
    @ZOS_RichLambert addressed this during either the reveal or an eso live after saying, in affect, that they don't want people basically camping a single game mode to prevent the modes from being packed or empty

    Just a suggestion: Add some extra % ap/Point gain (haven´t played BG yet so don´t know what is used for scores) if using "random mode" compared to chosing your game mode. But add that option.
  • Magdalina
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    Before I begin, quick disclaimer, I'm not a PvP'er by any means and typically can't stand it. The only time you'll ever see me doing anything PvP related is if I need to level the Alliance War skill trees for PvE (Purge, Vigor, Caltrops). However I actually really, really, like Battlegrounds! As long as its not Deathmatch...

    Right now we don't have a say in what we get to queue for for Battlegrounds which sucks. I don't enjoy being forced into a Deathmatch against hardcore PvP'ers and getting my butt handed to me. Its no fun for me and likely for them too.

    I propose that ZOS does something similar to the dungeon finder (except for the bugs) where you can choose any of the types of Battlegrounds you want, Capture the Relic, Domination, and Deathmatch. Or you can do a grab bag and get bonus AP and a goodie bag, once per day. This way everyone wins!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom please tell me you have something like this in the works...

    I think allowing us to queue for individual BGs will introduce a whole host of problems. Those same hardcore PVPers would congregate in Deathmatch making it impossible to play there without a hardcore pre-made 4 man team. CTF would be completely empty except for Stam Sorcs wearing Cowards Armor. Queue times will be logner after dividing all the queue players by another parameter.

    Variety is the spice of life ESO.

    Variety should imply being able to pick from multiple options, not being forced into options you don't like.

    I just wanna (try to) kill people I really don't wanna go after those stupid relics:(
  • kadar
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    sigsergv wrote: »
    I think allowing us to queue for individual BGs will introduce a whole host of problems. Those same hardcore PVPers would congregate in Deathmatch making it impossible to play there without a hardcore pre-made 4 man team. CTF would be completely empty except for Stam Sorcs wearing Cowards Armor. Queue times will be logner after dividing all the queue players by another parameter.

    Variety is the spice of life ESO.

    But exactly this is happening right now. IT couldn't be worse than it is now.

    How? It's random.

    Hardcore 4 man teams can't only play deathmatch. CTF has population. Que times are decent because of the large undivided player pool.
  • Warraxx
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    ...I don't enjoy being forced into a Deathmatch against hardcore PvP'ers and getting my butt handed to me. Its no fun for me and likely for them too...

    No, it's actually quite fun and rewarding.
  • kadar
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    Before I begin, quick disclaimer, I'm not a PvP'er by any means and typically can't stand it. The only time you'll ever see me doing anything PvP related is if I need to level the Alliance War skill trees for PvE (Purge, Vigor, Caltrops). However I actually really, really, like Battlegrounds! As long as its not Deathmatch...

    Right now we don't have a say in what we get to queue for for Battlegrounds which sucks. I don't enjoy being forced into a Deathmatch against hardcore PvP'ers and getting my butt handed to me. Its no fun for me and likely for them too.

    I propose that ZOS does something similar to the dungeon finder (except for the bugs) where you can choose any of the types of Battlegrounds you want, Capture the Relic, Domination, and Deathmatch. Or you can do a grab bag and get bonus AP and a goodie bag, once per day. This way everyone wins!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom please tell me you have something like this in the works...

    I think allowing us to queue for individual BGs will introduce a whole host of problems. Those same hardcore PVPers would congregate in Deathmatch making it impossible to play there without a hardcore pre-made 4 man team. CTF would be completely empty except for Stam Sorcs wearing Cowards Armor. Queue times will be logner after dividing all the queue players by another parameter.

    Variety is the spice of life ESO.

    Variety should imply being able to pick from multiple options, not being forced into options you don't like.

    I just wanna (try to) kill people I really don't wanna go after those stupid relics:(

    And that's fine. All I'm saying is that there are quite a few problems allowing that change will introduce. That's on top of any problems we can't anticipate (of which there are usually many).

    Allowing people to queue for individual BGs types will kill any variety we have. You're exibit A:
    I just wanna (try to) kill people I really don't wanna go after those stupid relics
  • Sigtric
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    The fact that we have to click 'grab bag' before we can queue leads me to believe that it's been designed to add other options later.

    As much as I'd like nothing more to only ever play Domination, I don't think it'd be a good idea, however. Diluting the queue by splitting it up for various reasons leads to longer wait times.

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  • Kay1
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    They will, just like they will add CP, give them a month or two, they just wanna test how they work.

    They also confirmed both of those ^.
    Edited by Kay1 on June 5, 2017 3:40PM
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