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[Poll] Would you like to see previous Crown Store costumes make a return?
Uncle_Sweetshare
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Recently I was looking at older costumes over at MMO Fashion, and it really bums me out that we can't purchase these older costumes, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. The business model of keeping these costumes around for a few months then removing them doesn't make a lot of sense to me, as these past costumes could be bringing ZOS continuous revenue instead of collecting dust in the Crown Store graveyard.
EDIT: This could also apply to mounts, pets, or anything else that ZOS has released under the guise of a limited time offer.
Edited by Uncle_Sweetshare on June 5, 2017 11:40AM EDIT: This could also apply to mounts, pets, or anything else that ZOS has released under the guise of a limited time offer.
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[Poll] Would you like to see previous Crown Store costumes make a return? 98 votes
Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!
58%
57 votes
No, keeping skins as limited time offers makes them exclusive!
16%
16 votes
Why are we talking about costumes when Battlegrounds is still unfinished?
7%
7 votes
Is maintenance over yet?
18%
18 votes
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Franieck✭✭✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!Important to note though: make them available for direct purchase! I'm no way in hell spending money on crown crates12 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Is maintenance over yet?Important to note though: make them available for direct purchase! I'm no way in hell spending money on crown crates
Unfortunately, I think that's the only way they'll return"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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Uncle_Sweetshare✭✭✭✭Why are we talking about costumes when Battlegrounds is still unfinished?Important to note though: make them available for direct purchase! I'm no way in hell spending money on crown crates
This I definitely agree with. Hiding them behind RNG is not the way to go.
But Tryxus is right, and that's likely the only way we'll see them again.Edited by Uncle_Sweetshare on June 5, 2017 11:26AMPC | NA | EP Uninstalled and refunded. I'm just here to laugh at ZOS.
Candy, candy, he makes so much.
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TheValar85✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!I agree i would realy love to buy the Shaman sett, why dont they put in to the rotation? so lame from you ZOS.GM Of The Lusty Argonian ERPGM Of THe Alessia Dynasty PVP GuildGM Of The Guardians Of MiddleEarthMy Smiling Emperor Profile Picture: https://ibb.co/bsOM6n1
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✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!Yes, but only for direct purchase and not in those clown crates.5 -
Uncle_Sweetshare✭✭✭✭Why are we talking about costumes when Battlegrounds is still unfinished?TheValar85 wrote: »I agree i would realy love to buy the Shaman sett, why dont they put in to the rotation? so lame from you ZOS.
Dark Shaman? I want that one so badly for my MagDK.PC | NA | EP Uninstalled and refunded. I'm just here to laugh at ZOS.
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Eshja✭✭✭✭Is maintenance over yet?I just want the Elven Hero costume back
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JR_Returns✭✭✭It really makes no difference to me. I play on both servers, which means buying thing twice
So rather than letting ZOS rip me off I buy nothing.
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TheValar85✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!Uncle_Sweetshare wrote: »TheValar85 wrote: »I agree i would realy love to buy the Shaman sett, why dont they put in to the rotation? so lame from you ZOS.
Dark Shaman? I want that one so badly for my MagDK.
Yep the Dark shaman one
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VDoom1✭✭✭✭✭I wish mounts was an option here. So many awesome mounts that were only available once and poof, gone forever. Like that lightning panther/Dro-m'Athra Senche, bye bye. Anyways as for costumes, neh Im not gonna put crowns into pure appearance items. Not until the day I got crowns to waste.We Fight For Cyrodiil.
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✭✭✭✭✭No, keeping skins as limited time offers makes them exclusive!Voted wrong, RIP me1 -
Uncle_Sweetshare✭✭✭✭Why are we talking about costumes when Battlegrounds is still unfinished?I wish mounts was an option here. So many awesome mounts that were only available once and poof, gone forever. Like that lightning panther/Dro-m'Athra Senche, bye bye. Anyways as for costumes, neh Im not gonna put crowns into pure appearance items. Not until the day I got crowns to waste.
I mean, to be fair, mounts are just cosmetic as well, but I should have been more broad and included other Crown store items such as pets and mounts! Fixing OP!PC | NA | EP Uninstalled and refunded. I'm just here to laugh at ZOS.
Candy, candy, he makes so much.
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mwo1480✭✭✭✭No, keeping skins as limited time offers makes them exclusive!if they come back thn in crown crates
exept for special ones-like the hero costumes and holiday costumes
otherwise to much players will have same
and i love my one dress who isnt in store anymore cuz becouse new players cant get it
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tclark_ESO✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!WIsh the Ice Horse would come back on the store.
NOT crates. Hate those things.1 -
Uncle_Sweetshare✭✭✭✭Why are we talking about costumes when Battlegrounds is still unfinished?Maintenance is over!PC | NA | EP Uninstalled and refunded. I'm just here to laugh at ZOS.
Candy, candy, he makes so much.
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Alchemical✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!Uncle_Sweetshare wrote: »The business model of keeping these costumes around for a few months then removing them doesn't make a lot of sense to me, as these past costumes could be bringing ZOS continuous revenue instead of collecting dust in the Crown Store graveyard.
That's largely because it doesn't make sense when applied to a long term platform with a fluid consumer base. Special Offers and Limited Time sales are effective marketing tactics when used sparingly and usually deployed in a lull to drum up business. But as a default for ALL content? It is absolutely baffling. Cosmetics, be they costumes or mounts or whatever, they cost Zenimax money to make. They have to invest in the time and resources to develop them. Even the most simple pallet swaps involve SOMEONE getting paid to adjust the color in photoshop. So they invest in a product to sell to players, a product which they have a LIMITLESS amount of, which NEVER depreciates in value, and would cost them NOTHING to sell indefinitely for the entire life of the game.
To illustrate my point, despite the backlash to how lazy it was and how much it annoyed consumers people still bought the Horse Armor DLC for Oblivion even after Skyrim came out (and likely still do).
Rather than limit it to the customer base to those who logged on during the tiny window it was available, permanent sales effectively expand your clientele to exactly as many people have accessed your game at any point in time. If they expect ESO to be a success and continue to grow and attract more players, they would want to have more items available for them to spend their money on. Over the years their already impressive catalogue of content could CONSISTENTLY be turning a steady profit. Using artificial scarcity to intimidate sales out of players says they don't have a lot of faith in their game lasting longer than it would take for them to make $30 off your impulse buyer's remorse. By over committing to one bully tactic they diminish their gross total sales, effectively shooting their cumulative profits in the foot in exchange for short-term gratification.
TL;DR, Zenimax could sit back and be printing their own money, but instead they're setting fire to their inventory in a parking lot in hopes that a few bystanders will try to smother the flames with their cash.3 -
Uncle_Sweetshare✭✭✭✭Why are we talking about costumes when Battlegrounds is still unfinished?Alchemical wrote: »Uncle_Sweetshare wrote: »The business model of keeping these costumes around for a few months then removing them doesn't make a lot of sense to me, as these past costumes could be bringing ZOS continuous revenue instead of collecting dust in the Crown Store graveyard.
That's largely because it doesn't make sense when applied to a long term platform with a fluid consumer base. Special Offers and Limited Time sales are effective marketing tactics when used sparingly and usually deployed in a lull to drum up business. But as a default for ALL content? It is absolutely baffling. Cosmetics, be they costumes or mounts or whatever, they cost Zenimax money to make. They have to invest in the time and resources to develop them. Even the most simple pallet swaps involve SOMEONE getting paid to adjust the color in photoshop. So they invest in a product to sell to players, a product which they have a LIMITLESS amount of, which NEVER depreciates in value, and would cost them NOTHING to sell indefinitely for the entire life of the game.
To illustrate my point, despite the backlash to how lazy it was and how much it annoyed consumers people still bought the Horse Armor DLC for Oblivion even after Skyrim came out (and likely still do).
Rather than limit it to the customer base to those who logged on during the tiny window it was available, permanent sales effectively expand your clientele to exactly as many people have accessed your game at any point in time. If they expect ESO to be a success and continue to grow and attract more players, they would want to have more items available for them to spend their money on. Over the years their already impressive catalogue of content could CONSISTENTLY be turning a steady profit. Using artificial scarcity to intimidate sales out of players says they don't have a lot of faith in their game lasting longer than it would take for them to make $30 off your impulse buyer's remorse. By over committing to one bully tactic they diminish their gross total sales, effectively shooting their cumulative profits in the foot in exchange for short-term gratification.
TL;DR, Zenimax could sit back and be printing their own money, but instead they're setting fire to their inventory in a parking lot in hopes that a few bystanders will try to smother the flames with their cash.
Extremely informative post, and the sentence that sticks out the most for me is "Using artificial scarcity to intimidate sales out of players says they don't have a lot of faith in their game lasting longer than it would take for them to make $30 off your impulse buyer's remorse", and not just because it was bolded. ZOS treats ESO as if it's a one hit wonder, yet it's part of a massive franchise with an extremely dedicated fanbase.
This game could last for 10+ years if they took care of it, but they're not. The devs have no [snip] clue what they're doing. There's so many bugs still in game, Battlegrounds is an absolute disaster, and guess what! The Battlegrounds queue which was supposed to be fixed this patch... Drum roll please... Is still broken. Random dungeon rewards? Still broken. Vet Trials on console? Still broken. It's a [snip] joke. The only reason I still play is because I'm hoping that one day the right people will get replaced, or Zenimax will sell The Elder Scrolls IP to a more competent company.Edited by ZOS_KatP on March 6, 2018 5:06PMPC | NA | EP Uninstalled and refunded. I'm just here to laugh at ZOS.
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Alchemical✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!Uncle_Sweetshare wrote: »The devs have no [snip] clue what they're doing.
To be fair, the trainwreck that is the cash shop isn't a reflection on the devs. Developers (for the most part) work on content, not marketing. Most likely it's just a corporate goblin that doesn't know anything about the game at all who was installed by the board of directors and told to make as much money as fast as possible, since MMOs are a risky venture nowadays.
Even the lazy way the lootbox system was shamelessly copied with a lack of a basic understanding what makes them so successful in other games (Hint, it's the low barrier to availability. Making them prohibitively expensive actually makes people not buy them, crazy huh!?) makes it PAINFULLY aware that management of the Cash Shop division have no clue what they're doing or how to market an MMO to the fickle gamer audience.Edited by ZOS_KatP on March 6, 2018 5:06PM0 -
Uncle_Sweetshare✭✭✭✭Why are we talking about costumes when Battlegrounds is still unfinished?Alchemical wrote: »
Developers (for the most part) work on content, not marketing.Uncle_Sweetshare wrote: »The devs have no [snip] clue what they're doing.
Oh I know, I went off topic and was referring to the trainwreck that is the current state of the game.Edited by ZOS_KatP on March 6, 2018 5:07PMPC | NA | EP Uninstalled and refunded. I'm just here to laugh at ZOS.
Candy, candy, he makes so much.
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Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!I don't buy much from the crown store but I'm a huge sucker for good looking outfitsBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!0 -
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✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!^ closest poll option I can go for.
Really wanted to say "Yes, screw your limited-time cash grabs."Best Argonian NA and I will fight anyone for it
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Tawrich✭✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!I want the dark shaman costume returned! And I have a feeling it wont be in the dwemer crates
will it ever come? It was there only for 4 days... 1 -
Miaura✭✭✭Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!Yes!!! And not in crowncrates only!
Plus I think the store could use a lot more items available at once. Looking at the costumes section for instance, not much to choose from. If many of the "retired" items were there, would look a lot better.1 -
Yes, ZOS take my Crowns!I understand the mindset between having costumes / mounts / etc in store for a limited time. It's a solid marketing tactic (people are more likely to buy something if they think they're about to lose the opportunity to buy it), and it's a tactic that lots of games employ. It's just how this sort of thing works.
What I don't understand is why ZOS doesn't recycle old costumes / mounts / etc more often. A while back they added a set of Dragonborn armour... but when the Skyrim Special Edition came out, they didn't bother recycling that costume and putting it in the store again - that sort of situation is a perfect opportunity to justify a little more crown milking. There's no downside for ZOS in making these limited time items available a smidge more often.Edited by o6untouchable on June 6, 2017 10:38AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Is maintenance over yet?What I REALLY want to see is for them to FIX all the costumes that cause distortion of our characters bodies.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!0
