What your pet peeve(s) about healers or healers what's your pet peeves.

Tasear · June 2017

A bit monday morning Maddess or you! So lets start off what bothers you about those who call themselves healers!

Ex
Stingy with shards or orbs
Arggod the mobs
Let me feel to close to the brisk of death.

Not many things bother me about other healers. Bit annoyed when you can't handle the poison face darkshade... I mean I can self heal and all, but those poor dps. I feel a little bother when don't heal my tank for a few mins and I getting lower in health till 50% comes along and you see to notice me. Once again it's always good to self sustain. Not much, but it's your turn now!

MaxwellC · June 2017

When they tell me healing springs is garbage and spamming BoL is the only way to go.

Jamascus · June 2017

When fail DPS'ers/Tanks stand in red circles...then blame the healer

Voxicity · June 2017

Not using spears, orbs, drain, spc

Everstorm · June 2017

Tasear wrote: »

Stingy with shards

More annoyed with ppl that think only Templars can heal.

idk · June 2017

Maybe someone should create a thread for healer to point out their pet peeves about DPS. That list could be longer such as stands in stupid and die to one shots because they failed to move or block. Let's not forget dps failing to rez the other dps that stood in stupid.

oh, oh, and dps stands next to tank when tank has stacked several archers and pointed them away from group so their arrow spray would not hit anyone else, unless they stood with the tank.

Humm, heals could have much to say. Hope I did not derail your thread to much.

BulletCraft86 · June 2017

I'd like to take a moment to perhaps come up with some explanations for some of your pet peeves without causing any disrespect to your post.

1. Ex not even sure what that is?
2. I get that since the stamina/magika cost reduction nerf you are hurting for sustain. But this is surely not just one players fault for not constantly topping you up, when their role also includes looking after the other team members. And also they might also be struggling for resources and may have to decide between a group heal over a resource for one player.
3. I'm convinced a lot of mobs are programed to attack healers in dungeons, specifically targeting a lifeline of the group forcing the group to look after their healer as a VIP asset. that's just my opinion.
4. Again, sometimes their resources may too be hurting and they cannot sustain 100% up time on their healing abilities and are waiting for a potion to pop / resources to gain / maybe be in the middle of some light support dps or waiting for abilities like BoL to increase the amount of healing received based on the targets missing health. (its a waste to BoL when health is only say around 70% or more)

Yes i Play a healer,
Yes i am defending them
I do Also play DPS and Tank (i have 13 characters)

My reply is not to insult anyone but shed some light on some of your frustrations and perhaps bring some insight into some play styles you do not know about.

of course this is my personal opinion

kylewwefan · June 2017

Healer wearing medusas something or other and julianos.....IDK? I guess no one told them.

Anything other than a Templar healer has already got me questioning this players build and their competence to perform the role.

When healer lets an eager DD die on a trash pull......oh yeah, sorry that was my fault. I have no self heals. Was expecting a healer to be in the group.

Wait til everything's is clearly dead. Then use repentance.

kelticfuryub17_ESO · June 2017

Jamascus wrote: »

When fail DPS'ers/Tanks stand in red circles...then blame the healer

You can't heal stupid.

Fusiondk · June 2017

Pet peeves against healers? As a main healer here is what I usually deal with using the DF. (sorry to flip the idea here lol)

- Players don't stack (Like someone said springs > BoL spam) in appropriate stackable places
- I "passively" do 50% if party dps with RoR/Blockade/Shards/Orbs etc
- Tanks and dps clearly not knowing the mechanics of various content and suddenly becoming mute when you ask them
- Tanks/DPS blaming healers for the above wondering why they aren't getting healed through something like FG2 first boss tether.
- But my number one aggrevation is DPS that can't...stop...moving....like why do you have to constantly move. Heals are "DIRECTIONAL". When you're strafing around like a squirrel on crack I have to then chase you. 90% of fights require a tenth of the movement I see. And half the time they actually move INTO bad stuff. Mind blowing and likely the result of a book of instant cast abilities.

When I am dpsing my biggest gripe with healers, and this is usually only in pugs, is that people constantly queue as a healer
and aren't really setup to heal. I wish ESO identified to players early on that Tanks/Healers that are playing at optimal levels have far more responsibility then your average tank/healer in other games. You are in essence a major support piece. Simply tanking and healing is not too difficulty, but those roles are usually desired to be using certain skills, gear etc to facilitate for the group.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2017

When I fall asleep healing. The group really seems to dislike that.

Dantaria · June 2017

kylewwefan wrote: »

When healer lets an eager DD die on a trash pull......oh yeah, sorry that was my fault. I have no self heals. Was expecting a healer to be in the group.

If by "eager" you mean "the one who didn't wait for the group and died" than yes - it's your fault. I'm not healing you on principle.

If someone "was expecting a healer to be in the group", it means that they need the group and therefore - absolutely have to wait, yes. I'm tired of idiotic DDs who badge on, try to show their "awesome deeps" and completely forget that they often make mobs CC-immune, so the tank can't do his job. Well done, well freaking done

The more I play healer, the thinner my patience runs. For god's sake, I wait and has always waited for people on my full-golden magsorc when I can freaking solo the whole dung and not break a sweat.

Wait for the group. And also - tank pulls. Not you. Especially - if you, on your own, die.

FleetwoodSmack · June 2017

MaxwellC wrote: »

When they tell me healing springs is garbage and spamming BoL is the only way to go.

Oh my god, I almost choked. HAHAHAHA!

Also when 'healers' don't slot Combat Prayer.

Also pro-tip to healers; Don't chase the squirrelly DPS. If they can't stay coordinated in a group, it's their loss.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2017

Dantaria wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

When healer lets an eager DD die on a trash pull......oh yeah, sorry that was my fault. I have no self heals. Was expecting a healer to be in the group.

If by "eager" you mean "the one who didn't wait for the group and died" than yes - it's your fault. I'm not healing you on principle.

If someone "was expecting a healer to be in the group", it means that they need the group and therefore - absolutely have to wait, yes. I'm tired of idiotic DDs who badge on, try to show their "awesome deeps" and completely forget that they often make mobs CC-immune, so the tank can't do his job. Well done, well freaking done

The more I play healer, the thinner my patience runs. For god's sake, I wait and has always waited for people on my full-golden magsorc when I can freaking solo the whole dung and not break a sweat.

Wait for the group. And also - tank pulls. Not you. Especially - if you, on your own, die.

Always been my thought on it. If you out run me, you need to be able to stay alive until I get there. And yes I stop at backpacks and heavy sacks.

theher0not · June 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Maybe someone should create a thread for healer to point out their pet peeves about DPS. That list could be longer such as stands in stupid and die to one shots because they failed to move or block. Let's not forget dps failing to rez the other dps that stood in stupid.

oh, oh, and dps stands next to tank when tank has stacked several archers and pointed them away from group so their arrow spray would not hit anyone else, unless they stood with the tank.

Humm, heals could have much to say. Hope I did not derail your thread to much.

Lets see, things I find anoying about DPS/Tanks as a healer:

* tanks not aggroing mobs (I don't really mind them being on me, I have enough HP myself, but some of the DPS don't)
* peoole standing in fire
* walking out of my heals so I have to waste extra magicka just to keep them alive
* people blaming healers for their own mistakes
* people walking out of LoS or in other ways get to a place where I am unable to heal them.
* people who doesn't care about tacts (I don't mind people who doesn't know. But people who know but still doesn't care are super anoying)
* people who do not read chat

(though these things are equally anoying no matter who does it)

klowdy1 · June 2017

Only healing the tank, expecting dps to have a self heal, and not razzing, even if the tank is full health. It's a four man team, don't just heal half of it.

neal_brasier · June 2017

When dps que as a healer to get faster que times

Spacemonkey · June 2017

klowdy1 wrote: »

Only healing the tank, expecting dps to have a self heal, and not razzing, even if the tank is full health. It's a four man team, don't just heal half of it.

DPS that are so squishy and cant self heal to the point where they die 5 times in a boss fight are a plague. If only the healer and the tank stay alive and you're constantly expecting the healer to come rez you, something is very wrong with your build.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · June 2017

When your healer has a bow and 30k health

Tasear · June 2017

Everstorm wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Stingy with shards

More annoyed with ppl that think only Templars can heal.

It was an example mobile user look at my signature

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ItsMeToo · June 2017

Unnecessary heals at PvP base camps. We are all safe here and this just adds to the lag.

Unnecessary heals when everyone is at full health and no enemies are around. We are all safe here and this just adds to the lag.

Unnecessary heals in banks. We are all safe here and this just adds to the lag.

Unnecessary heals in places where it's not needed. We are all safe here and this just adds to the lag.

If you want to heal someone, get in the battle where it will do some good.

Majzkatten · June 2017

Spacemonkey wrote: »

klowdy1 wrote: »

Only healing the tank, expecting dps to have a self heal, and not razzing, even if the tank is full health. It's a four man team, don't just heal half of it.

DPS that are so squishy and cant self heal to the point where they die 5 times in a boss fight are a plague. If only the healer and the tank stay alive and you're constantly expecting the healer to come rez you, something is very wrong with your build.

Lots of DPS seems to copy min/max builds which actually requires a very good player to stay alive, with or without heals.... most aint that good

DjMuscleboy02 · June 2017

When they spam 113 healing springs in a row it makes me visibly sick

klowdy1 · June 2017

Spacemonkey wrote: »

klowdy1 wrote: »

Only healing the tank, expecting dps to have a self heal, and not razzing, even if the tank is full health. It's a four man team, don't just heal half of it.

DPS that are so squishy and cant self heal to the point where they die 5 times in a boss fight are a plague. If only the healer and the tank stay alive and you're constantly expecting the healer to come rez you, something is very wrong with your build.

Nothing was mentioned about dieing 5 times on a boss. The annoyance is when I'm taking little 500 hits from adds the tank didn't pull off of me and I slowly die because my mana regen is total crap now, so I can get 2 heals off before I'm oom.

This has happened to me 3 times now, and the other dps and I were in the same boat. It's like the healer was treating this game like GW2, where everyone has access to enough heals/mitigation to sustain themselves, and it was our fault we died slowly.

My build come straight from alcast, I avoid almost all red on the ground. If the healer can't be troubled to rez once, that's not my fault. It seemed like the healer and tank queued together and said eff the dps, let's take 15 minutes to kill a boss. It isn't as though I'm dieing 10 times on ever boss in every dungeon, only when the healer focusses the tank and forgets about the dps.

Edit: straight from alcast minus the cyro skills. I just started working on them yesterday, so no vigor yet, just my templar heals.

magictucktuck · June 2017

I hate when you get a healer than either give no group utility like shards or combat prayer or gear sets OR if they are utility useless that's fine but best be doing some deeps in between those BOL

idk · June 2017

@Tasear

After reading your OP again my guess is your a tank and you did a dungeon with a pug group.

Pug groups are like a box of chocolates. One never knows what they will get until they bite into it. A tank should be able to self sustain most fights in 4 man dungeons without issue, though it may take a little focus at times. Getting a shard or orb is sometimes a luxury.

max_only · June 2017

MFW...

... a dps dies to stupid so the tank and I move the boss off him (no mechanics are happening except giant hits to tank) and the other dps doesn't Rez the dead one.

... dps wants to stand in red, refuses/ doesn't know to burn adds off me (the healer) and expects me to heal them through it, heal myself through all the adds AND do my own dps.

... dps pops werewolf after I've set down all my DoTs...

... dps is low and squishy - be one or the other. I have patience for squishy deeps if you are actually burning through it.

I'll add more after work.

Tasear · June 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@Tasear

After reading your OP again my guess is your a tank and you did a dungeon with a pug group.

Pug groups are like a box of chocolates. One never knows what they will get until they bite into it. A tank should be able to self sustain most fights in 4 man dungeons without issue, though it may take a little focus at times. Getting a shard or orb is sometimes a luxury.

Nope I am just a bored and curious healer...I had to put something down

I tank just to stalk other Healers

P.S it's fun knowing whose on mobile and whose not. My signature is a painting . . Master piece of my enjoyment of healing.

Tasear · June 2017

ItsMeToo wrote: »

Unnecessary heals at PvP base camps. We are all safe here and this just adds to the lag.

Unnecessary heals when everyone is at full health and no enemies are around. We are all safe here and this just adds to the lag.

Unnecessary heals in banks. We are all safe here and this just adds to the lag.

Unnecessary heals in places where it's not needed. We are all safe here and this just adds to the lag.

If you want to heal someone, get in the battle where it will do some good.

not those poor warden bears or sorc pets... some of them are about to die.

the moment they leave the bank.

kylewwefan · June 2017

Dantaria wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

When healer lets an eager DD die on a trash pull......oh yeah, sorry that was my fault. I have no self heals. Was expecting a healer to be in the group.

If by "eager" you mean "the one who didn't wait for the group and died" than yes - it's your fault. I'm not healing you on principle.

If someone "was expecting a healer to be in the group", it means that they need the group and therefore - absolutely have to wait, yes. I'm tired of idiotic DDs who badge on, try to show their "awesome deeps" and completely forget that they often make mobs CC-immune, so the tank can't do his job. Well done, well freaking done

The more I play healer, the thinner my patience runs. For god's sake, I wait and has always waited for people on my full-golden magsorc when I can freaking solo the whole dung and not break a sweat.

Wait for the group. And also - tank pulls. Not you. Especially - if you, on your own, die.

Just gonna let me die? Ouch. Get me some Rapid Regen or Mutagen something anything.

I have several toons to play through....I'm not particularly great on any of them, but when I'm healer, you're gonna think I'm trying to heal you to death like the Shamans in MoL.

You cannot overheal anyone in this game and you can heal through a tremendous amount of stupid. Need them DD to go kill stuff quick so we can move on to the next toon.

I pug a lot still.

agingerinohio · June 2017

Biggest pet peeve as a healer? People running behind me that I'm trying to buff/heal. It ends up me chasing them around trying to run behind them to do so yet they proceed to quickly run behind me. xD Also, people telling me as soon as we enter dungeon that sorc can't be a viable healer. I have utility/group buffs for days. I get on my Templar healer and throw out shards, no one uses them. Oui vei. xD

I agree with the above poster. Some sets like Spell Power Cure require over healing for the buffs. You can never over heal. Especially when more times than not no one is using Shields and are squishy.