Imperial usefulness

klowdy1 · June 2017

What is the imperial race good at in terms of the MMO trinity other than tanking? I know redguard and khajiit are the stam dps, HE and DE are best for magicka specs, along with argonian for healing, but what does the imperial race bring other than stam tanking, and a beefier pvp stam build? I have the gold edition, so I was wondering if buying the imperial upgrade was worth it for a player that tends to stick with dps, and some pvp?

Banana · June 2017

Imperial edition is worth it even for just the cheap horse when your just starting out.

abigfishy · June 2017

Isn't Breton also good for Magica? I thought Bosmer was also good for Stamina DPS. Imperial Edition also gives you a nice Horse and the ability to buy a really great value house.

starkerealm · June 2017

abigfishy wrote: »

Isn't Breton also good for Magica?

Breton and Altmer are the top tier Magicka picks. Breton is slightly more defensive, Altmer is offensive.

abigfishy wrote: »

I thought Bosmer was also good for Stamina DPS.

Bosmer and Khajiit are very good for stealthy characters. It's a legit build choice. Imperials and Redguards excel for more direct combat Stamina builds.

Publius_Scipio · June 2017

Imperials are good for health/tanks. They are versatile in the sense that you can incorporate imperials into many builds to boost your survivability a bit. That's pretty much it.

That and they have a passive that allows you to pick up more gold from dead mobs, chests, etc.

Bouldercleave · June 2017

I bought it in the beginning because Imperial was a good, solid, all around race. You also get the horse, and the ability to transmogrify armor to Imperial which I like the design of.

That being said, I have ONE imperial character out of 7 and he is my master crafter. I take him out of Craglorn ONLY to do master writs...

max_only · June 2017

You also don't have to find the Imperial motif for that character (for the achievement if you're into those) so they make good crafters too.

Tryxus · June 2017

Imperials are indeed nice tanks, and while they may not be the best Stam DPS race they are great for PvP for any Stam class.

And as others have said, the Imperial Edition comes with a few perks: Gear Converter to Imperial Style, unique White Horse, Mudcrab pet (my fav

) and a Pledge of Mara

Rainwhisper · June 2017

The Imperial edition also gives you access to a couple of nice houses.

fgoron2000 · June 2017

i like this thread, as lately I've been trying to think of what I wanted to do with my 2 Imperials. I created them back when I started, and really had no sense of class, stam vs mag, roles in group play, etc. I've been playing them so long, and have so many other char variants that I don't wanna start over with these two, and especially because of stable training & research & skill/ability leveling it'd be such a grind again...

Due to respec'ing, I'm not really locked into much of anything with them. So what would you do with an Imperial Nightblade? I play almost exclusively solo and PvE, and I'm still doing the alliance & MQ story lines. I am starting to do a little bit of group play with guildmates, but at the moment it's the exception rather than the rule. Later on, I'll prolly do more of that, but I don't expect to get much involved with PvP.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · June 2017

To all the misinformed people in here saying imperials are a bad DPS race, yet praising redguard and bosmer....
You do realise the 10% max stam of imperial equals the DPS of redguard (10%), and is higher DPS than bosmer(6% stam).

Redguard has more sustain (small recovery, not important in PVE DPS builds) and the main sustain- adrenaline rush passive. But DPS wise they are identical.

However imperial gets an impressive 12% max health (if using the max, health, stam and stam recovery drink) this health bonus is great as it tops you off.

I'm not suggesting imperial is best race for PVE stam DPS but it's got the 10% which is the only number that matters although Khajit is top stamina DPS.
Redguard is usually better choice over imperial (bc of sustain) but if you can sustain perfectly then imperial would be better due to extra health.

fgoron2000 · June 2017

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

To all the misinformed people in here saying imperials are a bad DPS race, yet praising redguard and bosmer....
You do realise the 10% max stam of imperial equals the DPS of redguard (10%), and is higher DPS than bosmer(6% stam).

Redguard has more sustain (small recovery, not important in PVE DPS builds) and the main sustain- adrenaline rush passive. But DPS wise they are identical.

However imperial gets an impressive 12% max health (if using the max, health, stam and stam recovery drink) this health bonus is great as it tops you off.

I'm not suggesting imperial is best race for PVE stam DPS but it's got the 10% which is the only number that matters although Khajit is top stamina DPS.
Redguard is usually better choice over imperial (bc of sustain) but if you can sustain perfectly then imperial would be better due to extra health.

This is an insight I wasn't aware of, thank you. I've actually been playing my imperial casually thus far, as a stam dps in solo pve content, but i'm still leveling skills/abilities and doing the zone and MQ storylines so there's a long way to go yet. Any thoughts on him being a nightblade?

Mason22 · June 2017

Are people actually having trouble playing the game based on the race they chose? Asking for a friend

starkerealm · June 2017

Mason22 wrote: »

Are people actually having trouble playing the game based on the race they chose? Asking for a friend

Racial picks only become important in PvP, or in high end content. Your race can make certain playstyles easier, but it doesn't mean you can't play.

When you're trying to place on trial leaderboards, then, yeah, it absolutely matters. Or, when you're going up against another player, and that 2% difference could be enough to swing the fight in your favor. But, in general? No. The importance of your race is vastly overstated on the forums, mostly by people who have never run vet content, but want to sound elite.

idk · June 2017

Currently the race considered BiS for tanking is Argonian. Besides the bonus for healing given and received it has good max health and the potion passive helps much considering the sustain changes. Imperial is considered the second best choice for stamina based tanking.

Imperial is still find for tanking either way.

fgoron2000 · June 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Currently the race considered BiS for tanking is Argonian. Besides the bonus for healing given and received it has good max health and the potion passive helps much considering the sustain changes. Imperial is considered the second best choice for stamina based tanking.

Imperial is still find for tanking either way.

gotta ask, sometimes they're obvious, sometimes not so much...BiS = Best in Show?

ObsidianMichi · June 2017

BiS = Best in Slot

So, if you want to meta game then you need the flavor of the month/patch race and gear, etc i.e. what you slot. I didn't get it at first either. Then again, I don't bother trying to metagame.

The Imperial is a good all around race, and there was a time when it was considered BiS for Stamina DPS because of it's % to both Stamina and Health. This was especially true for PvP, where the health regeneration and the higher percentages equaled a flat increase in damage. They're still a good pick for PvP for this reason, especially if you stick them in heavy armor. These days, they'll sacrifice a little DPS and resource regeneration for Stamina (which can be made up with food and potions), but that added bit of survivability is helpful for when you're in a tough spot. My first Nightblade was an Imperial, and I really enjoyed playing her through the Dominion's main story.

They may not be considered the "best" these days, but they're a solid pick for a stamina race (or even a magicka build if you're feeling rebellious).

fgoron2000 · June 2017

ObsidianMichi wrote: »

BiS = Best in Slot

So, if you want to meta game then you need the flavor of the month/patch race and gear, etc i.e. what you slot. I didn't get it at first either. Then again, I don't bother trying to metagame.

The Imperial is a good all around race, and there was a time when it was considered BiS for Stamina DPS because of it's % to both Stamina and Health. This was especially true for PvP, where the health regeneration and the higher percentages equaled a flat increase in damage. They're still a good pick for PvP for this reason, especially if you stick them in heavy armor. These days, they'll sacrifice a little DPS and resource regeneration for Stamina (which can be made up with food and potions), but that added bit of survivability is helpful for when you're in a tough spot. My first Nightblade was an Imperial, and I really enjoyed playing her through the Dominion's main story.

They may not be considered the "best" these days, but they're a solid pick for a stamina race (or even a magicka build if you're feeling rebellious).

aah, thank you...

klowdy1 · June 2017

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

To all the misinformed people in here saying imperials are a bad DPS race, yet praising redguard and bosmer....
You do realise the 10% max stam of imperial equals the DPS of redguard (10%), and is higher DPS than bosmer(6% stam).

Redguard has more sustain (small recovery, not important in PVE DPS builds) and the main sustain- adrenaline rush passive. But DPS wise they are identical.

However imperial gets an impressive 12% max health (if using the max, health, stam and stam recovery drink) this health bonus is great as it tops you off.

I'm not suggesting imperial is best race for PVE stam DPS but it's got the 10% which is the only number that matters although Khajit is top stamina DPS.
Redguard is usually better choice over imperial (bc of sustain) but if you can sustain perfectly then imperial would be better due to extra health.

Sustain has taken quite a hit since the Morrowind early access. I don't think you're giving the redguard stam regen enough credit.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · June 2017

fgoron2000 wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

To all the misinformed people in here saying imperials are a bad DPS race, yet praising redguard and bosmer....
You do realise the 10% max stam of imperial equals the DPS of redguard (10%), and is higher DPS than bosmer(6% stam).

Redguard has more sustain (small recovery, not important in PVE DPS builds) and the main sustain- adrenaline rush passive. But DPS wise they are identical.

However imperial gets an impressive 12% max health (if using the max, health, stam and stam recovery drink) this health bonus is great as it tops you off.

I'm not suggesting imperial is best race for PVE stam DPS but it's got the 10% which is the only number that matters although Khajit is top stamina DPS.
Redguard is usually better choice over imperial (bc of sustain) but if you can sustain perfectly then imperial would be better due to extra health.

This is an insight I wasn't aware of, thank you. I've actually been playing my imperial casually thus far, as a stam dps in solo pve content, but i'm still leveling skills/abilities and doing the zone and MQ storylines so there's a long way to go yet. Any thoughts on him being a nightblade?

It depends on the content... Kahjiit is best DPS for pure PVE, but that depends on how good you are. If you're a beginner the extra health of Imperial will help you more.

Bosmer/wood elf is usually the best race for Pvp on a stamblade, due to 21% recovery mainly and also other passives are good.

Another interesting option to use is Orc, not as much health or stam (6% both) as imperial but you get; 4% melee damage and 5% healing received as well as bonus sprint speed and reduced cost for sprint.
All races stam races are solid, the difference between them is small but it does make a difference.

Mitrenga · June 2017

I have an Imperial Stamblade which I'm only using for PvP and I can recommend also getting the WW skill line with it..

starkerealm · June 2017

Mitrenga wrote: »

I have an Imperial Stamblade which I'm only using for PvP and I can recommend also getting the WW skill line with it..

Stamblades make for shockingly solid werewolves.