In fact, I think console users has already exceeded the PC users.

harper17 · June 2017

https://www.polygon.com/2016/10/14/13283030/elder-scrolls-online-player-numbers-console-pc-split-matt-firor-bethesda

It was interviewed The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited game director, Matt Firor
directly from a famous polygon for game analysis.
Here is a brief summary of the article.

Elder Online was launched on PC in April 2014.
In June 2015, Elder Online was released to the console, and despite the late launch of more than a year,
the PC has lost its main platform to the console.
The player base is "pretty much divided 30 percent, give or take"
between each of the game’s three major platforms
— PlayStation 4, Windows PC/Mac and Xbox One.

Although not Clearly mentioned, as of October 2016, the number of console users has already surpassed or surpassed PC users.

MaxwellC · June 2017

I mean two platforms against PC really isn't a fair fight lol. Most people would buy the game on their PCs but feel that their PC is not good enough or have a console where they will feel there's no difference in playing it on console vs PC; I play on console but I have also played PC.

Lexxypwns · June 2017

There's pretty clear evidence of Xbox NA having the largest Pvp population. This could be extrapolated to say we likely would have the largest overall population as well.

ATM we get 2 camps locked all factions, 2 camps with 1 lock and 1 3bar each and even auras has been 2+ bars of blue and one bar yellow/red a few times lately

The evidence is the extra campaign we get for Pvp in morrowind. More than any other platform

I just wish our competitive Pvp guilds didn't use all these servers to hide from each other and farm pugs.

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

Multiplat games always have more players on console than on PC because there are simply more console gamers than PC gamers (we're taking about a $500 pre-built gaming device vs. a $1500 one that you have to build yourself). Sure the PC gaming experience is infinitely superior, but most people are casual gamers who don't care or they can't afford a gaming PC.

Lexxypwns · June 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Multiplat games always have more players on console than on PC because there are simply more console gamers than PC gamers (we're taking about a $500 gaming device vs. a $1500 one that you have to build yourself).

Prolly get an xbone used for like $150 on eBay tbh

Publius_Scipio · June 2017

I'd say ZOS should be commended for successfully bringing a major AAA MMO over to consoles, with an as good as possible UI and controller feel as you can get these days.

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I'd say ZOS should be commended for successfully bringing a major AAA MMO over to consoles, with an as good as possible UI and controller feel as you can get these days.

Now if only Sony wasn't so greedy, we could have cross-platform games. MS has said they'd be open to allowing cross-platform titles with PC and PS4, but Sony is only open to doing cross-platform with PC. We already have PC-Xbox and PC-PS4 games, but not all three.

Lexxypwns · June 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I'd say ZOS should be commended for successfully bringing a major AAA MMO over to consoles, with an as good as possible UI and controller feel as you can get these days.

Now if only Sony wasn't so greedy, we could have cross-platform games. MS has said they'd be open to allowing cross-platform titles with PC and PS4, but Sony is only open to doing cross-platform with PC.

I wouldn't want cross platform play until they can stop memory hacking. I've made a conscious choice to remain on console because of the cheat engine fiasco

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I'd say ZOS should be commended for successfully bringing a major AAA MMO over to consoles, with an as good as possible UI and controller feel as you can get these days.

Now if only Sony wasn't so greedy, we could have cross-platform games. MS has said they'd be open to allowing cross-platform titles with PC and PS4, but Sony is only open to doing cross-platform with PC.

I wouldn't want cross platform play until they can stop memory hacking. I've made a conscious choice to remain on console because of the cheat engine fiasco

1% of the player base cheats in PC games. You don't notice it (other than in MMOs where devs don't bother with anti-cheat systems since they aren't e-sports games). But even in MMOs, the hacking is just a nuisance and not something that ruins your experience (bots might kill the economy on a particular item, like dreugh wax in ESO, but it's ultimately not a big deal).

Sausage · June 2017

Thats why I transfered to PS4, Im sure we will live alot longer than PC. In fact Im kind of surprised that PC has lived this long.

f047ys3v3n · June 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I wouldn't want cross platform play until they can stop memory hacking. I've made a conscious choice to remain on console because of the cheat engine fiasco

Smart man, they don't seem to have any interest in addressing cheat engine and I do believe it is a major factor, both polluting the leaderboards in PVE and also making for some pretty miserable PVP moments.

Regarding the OP's post, I think the dominance of console on the player base really comes down to lack of any real competition in MMORPG's on console. On PC ESO has to compete with some much better run games that, despite having far less funding, make much better decisions and communicate better with their player base. If it was not for the sheltered environment on the consoles I expect ESO would have some new leadership by now. There is really no excuse for it to be in 3rd place in MMORPG's when 2/3rds of its players are basically spotted to it by coming from a different platform where they have few alternatives. ESO yields very poor investment performance when the inputs are properly weighed. There is little excuse for making some glaring errors such as the champion system, unified PVP / PVE balance, and ignoring widespread cheating. These decisions fall under the rubric of being well understood pitfalls that previous MMORPG's paid for dearly yet here we are learning the hard way again.

LadyLavina · June 2017

aaaand this matters why?

Console users just looking for something meaningful to tout around and throw in others faces during arguments?

The real purpose of this thread is not clear to me.

Sausage · June 2017

LadyLavina wrote: »

aaaand this matters why?

Console users just looking for meaningful to tout around and throw in others faces during arguments?

The real purpose of this thread is not clear to me.

Polygon? Im all about the VG247 myself, we just troll from left to right, like no tomorrow.

magictucktuck · June 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

There's pretty clear evidence of Xbox NA having the largest Pvp population. This could be extrapolated to say we likely would have the largest overall population as well.

ATM we get 2 camps locked all factions, 2 camps with 1 lock and 1 3bar each and even auras has been 2+ bars of blue and one bar yellow/red a few times lately

The evidence is the extra campaign we get for Pvp in morrowind. More than any other platform

I just wish our competitive Pvp guilds didn't use all these servers to hide from each other and farm pugs.

I don't consider this good evidence, I just switch from xbox to pc tonight lol but I don't think it's good evidence because from what I have noticed on the forums pc and PS4s most popular campaign it's the 30 day cp where as Xbox by far most popular is 7 day cp. so they just let everyone keep their most popular cp campaign.

WalksonGraves · June 2017

Xbox has no other real mmo, pc has infinite options.

Sausage · June 2017

Sausage wrote: »

LadyLavina wrote: »

aaaand this matters why?

Console users just looking for meaningful to tout around and throw in others faces during arguments?

The real purpose of this thread is not clear to me.

Polygon? Im all about the VG247 myself, we just troll from left to right, like no tomorrow.

Speaking of VG247, I wish they would do stuff like Gameindustry.biz. That would be easily my favorite gaming site, but still keep the style, what is easy to browse and read.

Nyghthowler · June 2017

And the point of this thread is ....?

PC has so many options to choose from MMO wise. Console has 2 or 3 MMO options, maybe? And everyone knows that for just the cost of a good CPU and video card for a PC, you can buy the whole console.

So, are you just trying to feel better about yourself OP, or was there a legitimate point to your post?

Vipstaakki · June 2017

That article is from 2015. It's 2017 now. Could you find anything more fresh?

harper17 · June 2017

Nyghthowler wrote: »

And the point of this thread is ....?

PC has so many options to choose from MMO wise. Console has 2 or 3 MMO options, maybe? And everyone knows that for just the cost of a good CPU and video card for a PC, you can buy the whole console.

So, are you just trying to feel better about yourself OP, or was there a legitimate point to your post?

wow, please calm down.

I dont want to fight, I just try to correct the misconception that the number of users is more on the pc side.
I am playing both pc version and console version.
Both versions have advantages and disadvantages,
I agree with your idea that users will have to drive because there is no mmo game in the console.

harper17 · June 2017

Vipstaakki wrote: »

That article is from 2015. It's 2017 now. Could you find anything more fresh?

This article was interviewed in October 2016. You can see it when you click link.

UppGRAYxDD · June 2017

Sooo....Console Master Race confirmed!!!

Woeler · June 2017

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Sooo....Console Master Race confirmed!!!

There are always more sheep than wolves on the plains.

Betheny · June 2017

PC Master Race. We have the tech and all the toys.

*forgot this bit - pshhh console peasants.

Tandor · June 2017

When did it become a contest rather than a celebration of multiple ways of playing the game?

Betheny · June 2017

Tandor wrote: »

When did it become a contest rather than a celebration of multiple ways of playing the game?

You mean historically or in this thread?

Historically - when console users realised they had numbers but no processing power.

In this thread - soon as the OP posted.

Peekachu99 · June 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I'd say ZOS should be commended for successfully bringing a major AAA MMO over to consoles, with an as good as possible UI and controller feel as you can get these days.

Now if only Sony wasn't so greedy, we could have cross-platform games. MS has said they'd be open to allowing cross-platform titles with PC and PS4, but Sony is only open to doing cross-platform with PC. We already have PC-Xbox and PC-PS4 games, but not all three.

Oh c'mon. Only reason why Xbox execs are all "let's all get along and play together" is because they're so far behind this generation. Go back to Titanfall quotes and nonsense at the beginning of this gen to remind yourself of the messaging from which they've moved on. You think they'd be singing the same tune if fortunes were reversed and they were outselling Sony 2:1? No, they'd want people locked into PC/ Xbox services at the expense of their competitors.

DCUO and FFXIV are cross platform with PC, btw, and have been since he PS3 era so it's MS who are late to the party now. Depending on how iterative consoles continue and how less important brands become we may see true multiplatform multiplayer next gen.

None of these companies are your friends. None of them. Try to remember that.

F7sus4 · June 2017

We're currently experiencing quite huge influx of console players switching to PC in raiding guilds @ EU server. Not sure how that goes together with OP's suggestion.

Grinzzer62 · June 2017

The only good thing about pc's was the fact that you were not limited to which game you wanted to play I could play a game that was on Xbox but not PS as far as gaming experience goes pc is equal to console it is purely preference of keyboard/mouse to controller. In my case controller, and to those that say you can do 10x more with a keyboard then controller I beg to differ I played Tera, rift, eso and wow(the longest) all with a controller plugged in and my xpadder profile, I was able to set up a total of 24 to 26 buttons to push no macros or such played end game with np I'm talking pvp and pve. I was never at a disadvantage and would even top charts, and as far as the machine goes let's see I can buy a console which I will have to spend 0$ to upgrade till the next series comes out except for maybe memory but all I got to do is update it, while with a computer I have to spend like the person said double to three times as much on parts and sure now it's good for a bit but eventually I'll be spending money on parts to keep my gaming experience as it was or I can take the chance of OC and hope nothing gets dmged after a bit or I could have a water issue and fry my whole machine >.> so let's take a looks a machine I have to buy once and update till next series comes out or a machine I have to hand pick and build that is equal to the console at the time and then keep my gaming experience up by tweeking and buying new parts no I'll stay with console otherwise I would be playing this on pc again right, right so it's purely preference now there is no better gaming experience

Lexxypwns · June 2017

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MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I'd say ZOS should be commended for successfully bringing a major AAA MMO over to consoles, with an as good as possible UI and controller feel as you can get these days.

Now if only Sony wasn't so greedy, we could have cross-platform games. MS has said they'd be open to allowing cross-platform titles with PC and PS4, but Sony is only open to doing cross-platform with PC.

I wouldn't want cross platform play until they can stop memory hacking. I've made a conscious choice to remain on console because of the cheat engine fiasco

1% of the player base cheats in PC games. You don't notice it (other than in MMOs where devs don't bother with anti-cheat systems since they aren't e-sports games). But even in MMOs, the hacking is just a nuisance and not something that ruins your experience (bots might kill the economy on a particular item, like dreugh wax in ESO, but it's ultimately not a big deal).

That's fine that you feel that way, but it doesn't discredit my opinion. I'd prefer not to play on a platform where memory hacking is so easy because for me, knowing that there are people, no matter how much I practice or improve, who simply have an insurmountable unfair advantage because they're cheating does indeed ruin the experience for me. I have a PC that can run eso, I just prefer a platform without cheat engine, there are enough bugs to abuse already

magictucktuck wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

There's pretty clear evidence of Xbox NA having the largest Pvp population. This could be extrapolated to say we likely would have the largest overall population as well.

ATM we get 2 camps locked all factions, 2 camps with 1 lock and 1 3bar each and even auras has been 2+ bars of blue and one bar yellow/red a few times lately

The evidence is the extra campaign we get for Pvp in morrowind. More than any other platform

I just wish our competitive Pvp guilds didn't use all these servers to hide from each other and farm pugs.

I don't consider this good evidence, I just switch from xbox to pc tonight lol but I don't think it's good evidence because from what I have noticed on the forums pc and PS4s most popular campaign it's the 30 day cp where as Xbox by far most popular is 7 day cp. so they just let everyone keep their most popular cp campaign.

Haddy and scourge pop lock for all factions basically every night on Xbox NA, that's with thornblade and skeleton key being 2-3 bars and azuras 1-2 bars.

Your logic is terrible, Xbox NA, come morrowind, has 1 more campaign, or 25% more Pvp server space than the platforms you're mentioning. This wasn't an arbitrary decision and ZoS has shown they don't care about closing popular campaigns, several times shutting down the most popular campaign on a platform or changing it from Cp to no CP

Keep_Door · June 2017

Alot more people have xbone or ps4 then a good gaming pc. So im sure alot more people bought the game on console to try then on pc.

If they did a survey im sure they would find alot more dedicated players on pc.

From experience i can say ESO is 114% better on pc. I recently made the switch from xbox to pc . cp530 max crafter all classes lvl 50 stam and mag.

Im now on pc cp360 no crafting and only 4 toons 50 but i wont go back i just cant.

Peekachu99 · June 2017

F7sus4 wrote: »

We're currently experiencing quite huge influx of console players switching to PC in raiding guilds @ EU server. Not sure how that goes together with OP's suggestion.

Nearly everyone in here is throwing around anecdotal experience as if it's fact: OP and yourself included. Threads like this never end well.