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After patch 14. Which gear sets are still viable for a pvp stam and mag dragonk?
Im building up a stam and a mag dk. I know there are a loads of discussion can be found regarding my question, but they are all outdated. Has anyone done any testing yet? And what about the brand new sets from Morrowind?
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Ishammael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Stam DK is in a good spot.
Fury/werewolf/BS is totally viable. Just adjust jewelry glyphs as needed for sustain.
MDK much harder. Still working on it. Lots of gear options, but the class plays weak because of the nerf to sustain, block, and overall dmg increase.0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭mDK... there's a heavy set that nobody buys and drops on Glenumbra.... its absolutely GREAT on 4 piecesSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Bloodthorn is light. Wyrd Tree is heavy.
The 5 piece is pretty good too for back bar, but less so since poisons got nerfed.0 -
Savos_Saren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭mDK- I haven't felt too "nerfed" on my 5 Kag, 5 BSW, 2 Valkyn build. (5h, 1m, 1l) still has a lot of damage and with the heavy attack resource increase paired with Battle Roar- resource management is still controllable.
5kag, 5bsw, 2val on SnB bar- ult: ferocious leap or devouring swarm
4kag, 5bsw, 2val on destro staff bar- ult: meteorWant to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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TankHealz2015✭✭✭This is my current:
Argonian- Dragoknight- Werewollf
Sword-Shield front- infused with Undead enchanment = 6k damage to Vampire
2 handed mace back- Oblivion damage enchantments
5 Hulking Draugr on the body
5 Automaton on jewelry and weapons
This set up I typically do not slot the WW ultimate.
Shielded Charge + Power Bash is good combo if not too much lag
Crit Rush + other big hit 2handed skill
The DK skill to increase 40% heavy attack power + Rally for Brutality before attacking.
I swap back and forth with 2handed mace and the bow.
Works great, but hard to say exactly cause I run always with different PUGs...0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭For magicka DK there´s a few options, I run with the following:
5 Seducer (1h + shield on both bars, and 3 body pieces)
5 Rattlecage (3 jewels + 2 body): There´s a unique ring and a unique necklace in rattlcage set that drops in arcane, otherwise rattlecage drops in healthy, make sure u farm for the arcane ones (PS: rattlecage drops in vault of madness)
2 Skoria / 2 Bloodspawn / 2 Grothdarr (Whichever suits your needs, I personally prefer Bloodspawn), damn even malubeht is a viable option.
Other sets that I haven´t got to experiment with (but that I know are good armorsets) are:
* Desert rose: Even after the nerf the set is really good for sustain
* Syrabanes Grip: A weaker version of Desert rose.
* Silk of the sun: Make sure to run jewels+shield and 1h (don´t use 5 light armor)
* Burning Spellweave: Read comment above regarding Sun set, same goes for BSW (Drops in City of Ash 1&2, farm it in CoA 1 since it´s easier)
* Lich: Good sustain set (drops in Crypt of Hearts 1&2)
Edit: Regarding the new sets in Morrowind I would only recommend one of them for magDK and that´s the one called Impregnable Armor but it´s very difficult to get in decent traits so don´t "farm" for that one (It drops from Battleground rewards).Edited by Qbiken on May 29, 2017 1:36PM1 -
acw37162✭✭✭✭✭
✭Your going to want to find a five trait crafter and get a hold of some shackle breaker.0 -
Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭Why do people run heavy over light? Light with dual S&B is just as tanky and you hit way harder from my experience. Once I tried 5L/2H I was done with heavy. Running 5 BSW, 5Kags and 2 Skoria on both bars. I'm on console so don't have Morrowind update yet but I'm sitting at 2100 magicka regen, 1950 spell damage unbuffed and 21k stamina (use tri-stat food not witch mother's).0
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Why do people run heavy over light? Light with dual S&B is just as tanky and you hit way harder from my experience. Once I tried 5L/2H I was done with heavy. Running 5 BSW, 5Kags and 2 Skoria on both bars. I'm on console so don't have Morrowind update yet but I'm sitting at 2100 magicka regen, 1950 spell damage unbuffed and 21k stamina (use tri-stat food not witch mother's).
Because
1- heavy passives are better than light passives
2- you can get penetration through CPs and sharpen
3- Though regen is good in LA, constitution is more useful for blocking/dodge rolling
4- Extra healing
5- extra mitigation
6- Wrath
7- you don't need to keep on spamming dampen to feel yourself less clunky
8- Rapid mending resource return
tl;dr: you can get everything LA gives you through skills, passives and sets, but you can't get everything HA offers you using skills, passives and setsSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique1 -
Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭Why do people run heavy over light? Light with dual S&B is just as tanky and you hit way harder from my experience. Once I tried 5L/2H I was done with heavy. Running 5 BSW, 5Kags and 2 Skoria on both bars. I'm on console so don't have Morrowind update yet but I'm sitting at 2100 magicka regen, 1950 spell damage unbuffed and 21k stamina (use tri-stat food not witch mother's).
Because
1- heavy passives are better than light passives
2- you can get penetration through CPs and sharpen
3- Though regen is good in LA, constitution is more useful for blocking/dodge rolling
4- Extra healing
5- extra mitigation
6- Wrath
7- you don't need to keep on spamming dampen to feel yourself less clunky
8- Rapid mending resource return
tl;dr: you can get everything LA gives you through skills, passives and sets, but you can't get everything HA offers you using skills, passives and sets
I'm not convinced, most mitigation comes through blocking and not armor. My flame lash hits at least 1k harder in light versus heavy and coagulating blood crits for 8k in Cyrodiil in light so healing is plenty effective. MDK has a ton a built in survivability so between the two I prefer light, there was absolutely no drop off in survivability when i switched from heavy that I could feel.
I'll be interested to see how it plays out in non-cp once console gets the patch, but I'm happy the game is finally at a point where light vs heavy is actually a debate again!0 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why do people run heavy over light? Light with dual S&B is just as tanky and you hit way harder from my experience. Once I tried 5L/2H I was done with heavy. Running 5 BSW, 5Kags and 2 Skoria on both bars. I'm on console so don't have Morrowind update yet but I'm sitting at 2100 magicka regen, 1950 spell damage unbuffed and 21k stamina (use tri-stat food not witch mother's).
Because
1- heavy passives are better than light passives
2- you can get penetration through CPs and sharpen
3- Though regen is good in LA, constitution is more useful for blocking/dodge rolling
4- Extra healing
5- extra mitigation
6- Wrath
7- you don't need to keep on spamming dampen to feel yourself less clunky
8- Rapid mending resource return
tl;dr: you can get everything LA gives you through skills, passives and sets, but you can't get everything HA offers you using skills, passives and sets
I'm not convinced, most mitigation comes through blocking and not armor. My flame lash hits at least 1k harder in light versus heavy and coagulating blood crits for 8k in Cyrodiil in light so healing is plenty effective. MDK has a ton a built in survivability so between the two I prefer light, there was absolutely no drop off in survivability when i switched from heavy that I could feel.
I'll be interested to see how it plays out in non-cp once console gets the patch, but I'm happy the game is finally at a point where light vs heavy is actually a debate again!
Light is relatively better off now than in the Homestead patch, but for players who get attacked by multiple opponents as opposed to zerg surfing/dueling are going to be better off in heavy mot of the time.0 -
Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »Why do people run heavy over light? Light with dual S&B is just as tanky and you hit way harder from my experience. Once I tried 5L/2H I was done with heavy. Running 5 BSW, 5Kags and 2 Skoria on both bars. I'm on console so don't have Morrowind update yet but I'm sitting at 2100 magicka regen, 1950 spell damage unbuffed and 21k stamina (use tri-stat food not witch mother's).
Because
1- heavy passives are better than light passives
2- you can get penetration through CPs and sharpen
3- Though regen is good in LA, constitution is more useful for blocking/dodge rolling
4- Extra healing
5- extra mitigation
6- Wrath
7- you don't need to keep on spamming dampen to feel yourself less clunky
8- Rapid mending resource return
tl;dr: you can get everything LA gives you through skills, passives and sets, but you can't get everything HA offers you using skills, passives and sets
I'm not convinced, most mitigation comes through blocking and not armor. My flame lash hits at least 1k harder in light versus heavy and coagulating blood crits for 8k in Cyrodiil in light so healing is plenty effective. MDK has a ton a built in survivability so between the two I prefer light, there was absolutely no drop off in survivability when i switched from heavy that I could feel.
I'll be interested to see how it plays out in non-cp once console gets the patch, but I'm happy the game is finally at a point where light vs heavy is actually a debate again!
Light is relatively better off now than in the Homestead patch, but for players who get attacked by multiple opponents as opposed to zerg surfing/dueling are going to be better off in heavy mot of the time.
I assume near perma block it is still possible 1v1 even with the block changes they put in? I usually just ride around Cyrodiil solo hoping for someone to gank me or taking and camping a resource(apparently much harder to solo now I hear). On console so still a week away from Morrowind changes.0 -
NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »Why do people run heavy over light? Light with dual S&B is just as tanky and you hit way harder from my experience. Once I tried 5L/2H I was done with heavy. Running 5 BSW, 5Kags and 2 Skoria on both bars. I'm on console so don't have Morrowind update yet but I'm sitting at 2100 magicka regen, 1950 spell damage unbuffed and 21k stamina (use tri-stat food not witch mother's).
Because
1- heavy passives are better than light passives
2- you can get penetration through CPs and sharpen
3- Though regen is good in LA, constitution is more useful for blocking/dodge rolling
4- Extra healing
5- extra mitigation
6- Wrath
7- you don't need to keep on spamming dampen to feel yourself less clunky
8- Rapid mending resource return
tl;dr: you can get everything LA gives you through skills, passives and sets, but you can't get everything HA offers you using skills, passives and sets
I'm not convinced, most mitigation comes through blocking and not armor. My flame lash hits at least 1k harder in light versus heavy and coagulating blood crits for 8k in Cyrodiil in light so healing is plenty effective. MDK has a ton a built in survivability so between the two I prefer light, there was absolutely no drop off in survivability when i switched from heavy that I could feel.
I'll be interested to see how it plays out in non-cp once console gets the patch, but I'm happy the game is finally at a point where light vs heavy is actually a debate again!
Light is relatively better off now than in the Homestead patch, but for players who get attacked by multiple opponents as opposed to zerg surfing/dueling are going to be better off in heavy mot of the time.
I assume near perma block it is still possible 1v1 even with the block changes they put in? I usually just ride around Cyrodiil solo hoping for someone to gank me or taking and camping a resource(apparently much harder to solo now I hear). On console so still a week away from Morrowind changes.
Permablock is still possible. You will have to invest more in block cost reduction CP, but with the way CP is front loaded now it's easier than ever not to give up a star completely, but you have less benefits from each.
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Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭
Good to know. If perma blocking is possible, I think heavy armor loses it's advantages over light.Joy_Division wrote: »Why do people run heavy over light? Light with dual S&B is just as tanky and you hit way harder from my experience. Once I tried 5L/2H I was done with heavy. Running 5 BSW, 5Kags and 2 Skoria on both bars. I'm on console so don't have Morrowind update yet but I'm sitting at 2100 magicka regen, 1950 spell damage unbuffed and 21k stamina (use tri-stat food not witch mother's).
Because
1- heavy passives are better than light passives
2- you can get penetration through CPs and sharpen
3- Though regen is good in LA, constitution is more useful for blocking/dodge rolling
4- Extra healing
5- extra mitigation
6- Wrath
7- you don't need to keep on spamming dampen to feel yourself less clunky
8- Rapid mending resource return
tl;dr: you can get everything LA gives you through skills, passives and sets, but you can't get everything HA offers you using skills, passives and sets
I'm not convinced, most mitigation comes through blocking and not armor. My flame lash hits at least 1k harder in light versus heavy and coagulating blood crits for 8k in Cyrodiil in light so healing is plenty effective. MDK has a ton a built in survivability so between the two I prefer light, there was absolutely no drop off in survivability when i switched from heavy that I could feel.
I'll be interested to see how it plays out in non-cp once console gets the patch, but I'm happy the game is finally at a point where light vs heavy is actually a debate again!
Light is relatively better off now than in the Homestead patch, but for players who get attacked by multiple opponents as opposed to zerg surfing/dueling are going to be better off in heavy mot of the time.
I assume near perma block it is still possible 1v1 even with the block changes they put in? I usually just ride around Cyrodiil solo hoping for someone to gank me or taking and camping a resource(apparently much harder to solo now I hear). On console so still a week away from Morrowind changes.
Permablock is still possible. You will have to invest more in block cost reduction CP, but with the way CP is front loaded now it's easier than ever not to give up a star completely, but you have less benefits from each.
I'll be interested to see where the PvP population goes on PS4 NA, currently non-cp is by far the lowest of all the servers.
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