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New assassin's guile set and bar swap

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(2 items) Adds 688 Spell Critical

(3 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical

(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage and Weapon Damage

(5 items) Increases the duration of your alchemical poisons by 4 seconds.

If the 5 piece bonus is only active on a back bar, the back bar procs a poison, and then I bar swap to a front bar that doesn't have full 5 piece, does the poison proc from the back bar still last 4 additional seconds?

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  • STEVIL
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    When the 5pc is slotted your current poiosn tooltips inc each effect by 4s. When it is not they drop.

    When a poisons is applied (procs) whatever duration it has is set and it runs its course regardless of bar swapping.

    So with AG on backbar you proc a 5s poison on front bar, swap to AG/backbar no effect is gained - poison runs its original proc 5s duration then into cooldown. So no joy.

    But if you fire the same poison from the backbar, its duration is now 9s and if you swap to the front bar, it continues to run its 9s duration.

    So, as a backbar set where you put the poison on backbar and swap to it about every 10s or so (then back to front main offense bar) this works fine for an 11-slot staff/bow/2h type build.

    TLDR - "If the 5 piece bonus is only active on a back bar, the back bar procs a poison, and then I bar swap to a front bar that doesn't have full 5 piece, does the poison proc from the back bar still last 4 additional seconds?"

    YES

    Edited by STEVIL on May 29, 2017 12:04AM
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  • Waffennacht
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    STEVIL wrote: »
    Already tested on live before crafting my cp160s



    When the 5pc is slotted your current poiosn tooltips inc each effect by 4s. When it is not they drop.

    When a poisons is applied (procs) whatever duration it has is set and it runs its course regardless of bar swapping.

    So with AG on backbar you proc a 5s poison on front bar, swap to AG/backbar no effect is gained - poison runs its original proc 5s duration then into cooldown. So no joy.

    But if you fire the same poison from the backbar, its duration is now 9s and if you swap to the front bar, it continues to run its 9s duration.

    So, as a backbar set where you put the poison on backbar and swap to it about every 10s or so (then back to front main offense bar) this works fine for an 11-slot staff/bow/2h type build.

    TLDR - "If the 5 piece bonus is only active on a back bar, the back bar procs a poison, and then I bar swap to a front bar that doesn't have full 5 piece, does the poison proc from the back bar still last 4 additional seconds?"

    YES

    I can therefore assume this to be true for elf bane and fire abilities?
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  • STEVIL
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    STEVIL wrote: »
    Already tested on live before crafting my cp160s



    When the 5pc is slotted your current poiosn tooltips inc each effect by 4s. When it is not they drop.

    When a poisons is applied (procs) whatever duration it has is set and it runs its course regardless of bar swapping.

    So with AG on backbar you proc a 5s poison on front bar, swap to AG/backbar no effect is gained - poison runs its original proc 5s duration then into cooldown. So no joy.

    But if you fire the same poison from the backbar, its duration is now 9s and if you swap to the front bar, it continues to run its 9s duration.

    So, as a backbar set where you put the poison on backbar and swap to it about every 10s or so (then back to front main offense bar) this works fine for an 11-slot staff/bow/2h type build.

    TLDR - "If the 5 piece bonus is only active on a back bar, the back bar procs a poison, and then I bar swap to a front bar that doesn't have full 5 piece, does the poison proc from the back bar still last 4 additional seconds?"

    YES

    I can therefore assume this to be true for elf bane and fire abilities?

    You can assume whatever you want... me, i dont assume, i test.
    Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
    YFMV Your Fun May Vary.

    First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
    "The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."

  • Waffennacht
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    STEVIL wrote: »
    STEVIL wrote: »
    Already tested on live before crafting my cp160s



    When the 5pc is slotted your current poiosn tooltips inc each effect by 4s. When it is not they drop.

    When a poisons is applied (procs) whatever duration it has is set and it runs its course regardless of bar swapping.

    So with AG on backbar you proc a 5s poison on front bar, swap to AG/backbar no effect is gained - poison runs its original proc 5s duration then into cooldown. So no joy.

    But if you fire the same poison from the backbar, its duration is now 9s and if you swap to the front bar, it continues to run its 9s duration.

    So, as a backbar set where you put the poison on backbar and swap to it about every 10s or so (then back to front main offense bar) this works fine for an 11-slot staff/bow/2h type build.

    TLDR - "If the 5 piece bonus is only active on a back bar, the back bar procs a poison, and then I bar swap to a front bar that doesn't have full 5 piece, does the poison proc from the back bar still last 4 additional seconds?"

    YES

    I can therefore assume this to be true for elf bane and fire abilities?

    You can assume whatever you want... me, i dont assume, i test.

    ... Ok let me know what you find
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Killset
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    STEVIL wrote: »
    STEVIL wrote: »
    Already tested on live before crafting my cp160s



    When the 5pc is slotted your current poiosn tooltips inc each effect by 4s. When it is not they drop.

    When a poisons is applied (procs) whatever duration it has is set and it runs its course regardless of bar swapping.

    So with AG on backbar you proc a 5s poison on front bar, swap to AG/backbar no effect is gained - poison runs its original proc 5s duration then into cooldown. So no joy.

    But if you fire the same poison from the backbar, its duration is now 9s and if you swap to the front bar, it continues to run its 9s duration.

    So, as a backbar set where you put the poison on backbar and swap to it about every 10s or so (then back to front main offense bar) this works fine for an 11-slot staff/bow/2h type build.

    TLDR - "If the 5 piece bonus is only active on a back bar, the back bar procs a poison, and then I bar swap to a front bar that doesn't have full 5 piece, does the poison proc from the back bar still last 4 additional seconds?"

    YES

    I can therefore assume this to be true for elf bane and fire abilities?

    You can assume whatever you want... me, i dont assume, i test.

    ... Ok let me know what you find

    LOL

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