Can we ever get gold steal/loot items? No? How about purples... No? Stop gimping the game

AdicusDio
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Not sure what the rationale is here, especially now that the homes have been released and ALL the furniture/blueprints etc. are rather expensive, assuming you want matching decor. I can make excellent in-game loot off the guild traders in prime locations where I've been in the million dollar clubs (kind of a pita atm with outdated add-ons griping/not working) and can easily make 50k-100k in a day depending on what's hot atm, but I'm supposed to feel grateful for stealing a 40g WHITE JUNK ITEM? And my Adrenalin is supposed to get flowing from a 250g blue item?

Can you guys stop nerfing/breaking junk and give us a reason to not wonder WHY stuff is clearly missing from the game like purple/gold loot items, gold jewelry that's been absent since last year, etc.?
  • Magdalina
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    You can. In fact you already do. Any other questions you'd like to ask?;)
  • Ulfgarde
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    You can make maybe 12k per day if you spend like 2 hours farming it.

    It's a really bad way to make gold, but it works. You can also farm the golden recipes (Wood Elf Throne, Breton Throne, Orcish Throne, etc.) and make substantial gold from that.
    Edited by Ulfgarde on May 30, 2017 11:28AM
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  • Shadow_Viper_vX
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    I've actually found stealing and fencing items to be a rather great way to earn gold
  • AdicusDio
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    If having access to purple/gold items to lift off NPC is asking too much or is too "taboo" for low level or any players, how about tossing in some extra skill lines to be able to go after the stuff? Or maybe allow people that have a maxed clothing/metal/woodworking to gold jewelry?

    I'm lumping both categories together as their absences are probably related.
  • IwakuraLain42
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    There are normal purple treasure and purple/golden furnishment items and receipies that you can steal, I don't understand your question here ...
  • DRXHarbinger
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    There is no gold treasure to be looted, period. There are purples but they are very very rare. on my XB account which is several thousand hours, I have only ever had 2, Dwemer Schematics and a Ruby from the Ruby Throne (guess this one should be rare)

    Gold items such as the Human Skull and thrones can be had off NPC's but again are very very rare.

    Gold jewelry was almost unanimously agreed (99% of the community) should only come as a reward from Vet trials or top 3% of Cyro boards. this was like 2 years though.
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  • starkerealm
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    AdicusDio wrote: »
    If having access to purple/gold items to lift off NPC is asking too much or is too "taboo" for low level or any players, how about tossing in some extra skill lines to be able to go after the stuff? Or maybe allow people that have a maxed clothing/metal/woodworking to gold jewelry?

    I'm lumping both categories together as their absences are probably related.

    Being able to craft and upgrade jewelery would be a huge boon to build diversity. It'd make the hard mode trials marginally less appealing, but still.
  • Molec
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    There are also gold and purple motifs a'plenty
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  • Furinol
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    Perhaps the complaint is the frequency of those items? I despise the guild trader system so most of my gold is earned from stealing. While I feel good if I take in 12-18k a day from it that is a drop in the bucket for somebody using a guild trader. If the justification for the early fencing nerfs was too much profit for time spent it doesn't hold up. More likely it is that the fencing puts gold into the game while the guild trader just moves it from person to person.

    I can see the inflation problem but as thieving is my primary income - I would like it to be more profitable.


  • Greensea
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    Purple treasure you can pickpocket: http://esoitem.uesp.net/itemLink.php?itemid=62972

    Gold furnishing you can pickpocket from 'Cultists': http://esoitem.uesp.net/itemLink.php?itemid=118890&summary
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  • rjorjo
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    Are you claiming to have gotten something past blues from picking pockets or lockboxes? Of course such loot exists, but not from picking pockets/lockboxes, which is the topic here obviously.
  • Violynne
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    You pilfer white items and you're blaming the game for this?

    Here's a pro-tip: go to Auridon, Vulkhel Guard. Start at the stables. Just outside is a backpack. Starting from there, just do a giant circle around the buildings. One of the buildings is locked, so break in. The chest is upstairs. Watch the guard in the tower when you loot the backpack and two cabinets.

    Each shop has a safebox. Crack them. Once you're done with that area, go to the other side of the city. Loot the shops and guilds there (don't waste your time at the inn). NOTE: when doing the fighter's guild, don't forget to go upstairs and loot the 4 containers in the bedroom. No one is around, so no need to sneak.

    Once you're done, head to the center of town and enter the bank. Loot all containers. Then, head across the room, loot those four containers.

    Head out the opposite door and hit the two containers near the throne area. Go upstairs, hit the baskets, backpack, and chest.

    Leave the bank (you can go outside the second floor and jump down) and immediately head across the courtyard to behind Ari-El. There's a refuge behind it.

    Once you sell your junk, head back up and repeat the process since the area resets since you changed cells.

    If you can't easily earn 20k gold with about an hour's work, it's not the game's fault. The best thing about this rotation is that you can easily bypass the white items (usually in containers) because all safeboxes has green/blue/purple (though extremely rare) items.

    I leveled Legerdemain from 15 to 20 just by playing that entire area and it took me about 7-8 hours real time.

    Tip #2: If you don't mind respecing later, put points into forcing locks. This makes it exceptionally easier to crack those advanced safeboxes. However, bring tons of lockpicks, because you'll also break a few as well.

    Tip #3: If you've got the skills, pickpocket residents between buildings for even more loot, though just keep in mind this skill is level dependent, meaning if you're low skilled, you'll pull more white items on the first draw, green/purple on the second. Once your skill gets higher, the white stuff drops off.

    So there you go. Free advice from a Master Thief. :naughty:
  • Furinol
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    rjorjo wrote: »
    Are you claiming to have gotten something past blues from picking pockets or lockboxes? Of course such loot exists, but not from picking pockets/lockboxes, which is the topic here obviously.

    It exists.

    I have stolen purps. They fence for 1500. I have not gotten one of the gold recipes but I haven't focused on the right npcs either.
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    rjorjo wrote: »
    Are you claiming to have gotten something past blues from picking pockets or lockboxes? Of course such loot exists, but not from picking pockets/lockboxes, which is the topic here obviously.

    Pretty sure I've picked a pocket and gotten a purple item before. It's not exactly common, but it can happen. Also, as someone else pointed out, picket picking (and murder) can get you gold furnishing items and recipes.
  • Moorcrofts
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    I picked 3 gold skulls from the pockets of assassins in Wayrest and Northpoint just goofing off a week or two ago.

    Purple items are rare, but they exist in people's pockets, homes, treasure troves, and lock boxes.

    Personally, If I plan to do some serious thieving, I don't bother with white items most of the time.
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  • Robo_Hobo
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    There are purple treasures worth 1,500 gold that you can pickpocket/loot from safeboxes/find in wardrobes, dressers, etc. With max haggling, it's worth 1650 gold. They're quite rare though, but if you do thieve daily you'll see them once every other day or so. Sometimes twice or more in the same day, sometimes not within a week. If you have max legerdemain anyway, the rarity is based on that level as well.

    That's not counting furnishings or motifs or anything, just 'treasures'.

    Thieving certainly isn't the best way to make money, but it's where most of my money comes from since I don't like doing the trade game unless I find something particularly expensive to sell. I usually get about 15-20kish a day if I only fence green+ treasures, and it tends to take between a half hour to an hour and a half to get that. I just spree around Windhelm and Skywatch pickpocketing everyone without regard for getting caught as the guards are easy for me to escape.
  • danno8
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    rjorjo wrote: »
    Are you claiming to have gotten something past blues from picking pockets or lockboxes? Of course such loot exists, but not from picking pockets/lockboxes, which is the topic here obviously.

    I have had several in the past couple years.
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    AdicusDio wrote: »
    Not sure what the rationale is here, especially now that the homes have been released and ALL the furniture/blueprints etc. are rather expensive, assuming you want matching decor. I can make excellent in-game loot off the guild traders in prime locations where I've been in the million dollar clubs (kind of a pita atm with outdated add-ons griping/not working) and can easily make 50k-100k in a day depending on what's hot atm, but I'm supposed to feel grateful for stealing a 40g WHITE JUNK ITEM? And my Adrenalin is supposed to get flowing from a 250g blue item?

    Can you guys stop nerfing/breaking junk and give us a reason to not wonder WHY stuff is clearly missing from the game like purple/gold loot items, gold jewelry that's been absent since last year, etc.?

    You can steal recipes that is very expensive
    Yesterday I've got purple Elven Vase Winged recipe from guardian (yes, that one with 10kk HP) and it has a cost of ~30k on stores.
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  • Linaleah
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    my favorite time was when I pickpocketed a purple treasure of a beggar in hew's bane. I guess begging is profitable business :P
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  • LMar
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    You can in fact loot purple justice items from NPCs and from containers. Check the list out here

    eg Tooth from a golden saint

    ON-icon-stolen-Golden_Tooth.png

    Gold items are for Thieves Guild quest only though

    But you can get get gold furniture items/diagrams etc from the game too.

    Just make sure your Legerdemain skill is high. The higher it is the more likely you are to see the higher quality items
    Edited by LMar on May 30, 2017 12:42PM
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  • IwakuraLain42
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    rjorjo wrote: »
    Are you claiming to have gotten something past blues from picking pockets or lockboxes? Of course such loot exists, but not from picking pockets/lockboxes, which is the topic here obviously.

    Yes, not very often, but they do exist. There are actually golden treasure items but they belong to the Master Thief archivement and can't be fenced or laundered.
  • AtAfternoon
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    You can steal gold items from NPC's, I've done so myself in the Morrowind chapter.
  • IwakuraLain42
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    You can steal gold items from NPC's, I've done so myself in the Morrowind chapter.

    Furnishment items or treasures ?
    If it's the first then this nothing new, you can get these from Cultists and Guards.
  • AtAfternoon
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    You can steal gold items from NPC's, I've done so myself in the Morrowind chapter.

    Furnishment items or treasures ?
    If it's the first then this nothing new, you can get these from Cultists and Guards.

    Furnishment. I thought by "steal/loot items" OP refereed to any item you could steal or pickpocket.
  • Nyladreas
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    There are people who farm up to 500k a week lol. Not sure what you're getting at with this.

    I mean if you just want to steal then no wonder you only make little to no gold.

    There are way better ways.
    Edited by Nyladreas on May 30, 2017 12:57PM
  • Nemesis7884
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    i have looted a stolen purple once which is 1500 gold, but its very rare

    imo they should change the values for stolen treasures to

    white 100g
    green 250g
    blue 500g
    purple 2500g
  • rjorjo
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    Furinol wrote: »
    rjorjo wrote: »
    Are you claiming to have gotten something past blues from picking pockets or lockboxes? Of course such loot exists, but not from picking pockets/lockboxes, which is the topic here obviously.

    It exists.

    I have stolen purps. They fence for 1500. I have not gotten one of the gold recipes but I haven't focused on the right npcs either.

    Huh, I had no idea, guess I shouldn't be so sure about things. I've pilfered literally thousands and thousands of items and considering how relatively common blues are I figured I should've gotten at least one purple by now if they existed.
  • kivaann
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    AdicusDio wrote: »
    Not sure what the rationale is here, especially now that the homes have been released and ALL the furniture/blueprints etc. are rather expensive, assuming you want matching decor. I can make excellent in-game loot off the guild traders in prime locations where I've been in the million dollar clubs (kind of a pita atm with outdated add-ons griping/not working) and can easily make 50k-100k in a day depending on what's hot atm, but I'm supposed to feel grateful for stealing a 40g WHITE JUNK ITEM? And my Adrenalin is supposed to get flowing from a 250g blue item?

    Can you guys stop nerfing/breaking junk and give us a reason to not wonder WHY stuff is clearly missing from the game like purple/gold loot items, gold jewelry that's been absent since last year, etc.?

    Uhm, pretty sure the white junk item is only for new players to get easy gold. I'm a level 26 (yes, still very green newbie), and I yaw at green/blue stolen items these days. I got purple furnishing/cooking recipes though, and some golden items/recipes are reported to drop from stealing as well. I don't understand your point for this topic at all, because we do get purples and gold items from stealing. Yes, maybe not as treasure, but do you honestly prefer gold treasures over gold recipes/furniture?
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    Ulfgarde wrote: »
    You can make maybe 12k per day if you spend like 2 hours farming it.
    Yep.. if you spend skill points to some passives so you can fence more items. And if you have access to thieves guild passives you can fence them for more gold.
    It is the most efficient way to farm gold so far (I have not found any faster way) - but probably the most boring one ;) .

    On average it is like 12 - 18 K gold per 30 min - 2h (RNG dependent) daily per character... So if you are really hardcore you can do it on like 8 characters... that is like 100 - 150K gold daily... (but it will probably take like 10H to do so... :o )
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on May 30, 2017 1:00PM
  • deleted008293
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    I stolen a golden furniture item from an NPC.
    I also stole an Imperial Motif from a Backpack.
    Funny part is that I've stole both items within a 24h interval while for several months I was rarely even getting purple items.

    I never seen a golden treasure item either btw.
    Edited by deleted008293 on May 30, 2017 1:12PM
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