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VMA I'm sorry

Unfadingsilence
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Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice
Edited by Unfadingsilence on May 30, 2017 3:11AM
  • disintegr8
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    No matter how easy you think VMA is, I'm sure there are still easier ways to make gold.
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  • Unfadingsilence
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    No matter how easy you think VMA is, I'm sure there are still easier ways to make gold.

    But can you just imagine if they ever made it BOE how much someone who can't beat VMA now would pay for a sharpened weapon if they ever make it harder? We are talking about millions in a matter of 30 mins
  • GrumpyDuckling
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    Because it's not fun.
  • Ep1kMalware
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    Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice

    Stage 5, stamina templar, 11k life.
    https://youtu.be/jXrYaymTXZs

    If I can do it like this those scrubs best believe they can do it on a mag sorc with like 30k life (inckluding shield) and a freaking pet. They have no excuse except lack of effort.
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice

    Stage 5, stamina templar, 11k life.
    https://youtu.be/jXrYaymTXZs

    If I can do it like this those scrubs best believe they can do it on a mag sorc with like 30k life (inckluding shield) and a freaking pet. They have no excuse except lack of effort.

    I hear ya but that's what Imakes saying ppl need to L2P and understand how to play in a solo environment like VMA it takes time but it's not hard once you understand everything and now I would like to see some hard content in the game or at least make VMA harder or vet trials harder or something please zos please
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    No one is omplaining about VMA, unless I missed something?

    VMA is easy street, just another bait thread.
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  • Unfadingsilence
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    No one is omplaining about VMA, unless I missed something?

    VMA is easy street, just another bait thread.

    There was just a new post a few min and or hours ago about someone else upset that they can't beat it
  • Unfadingsilence
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    No one is omplaining about VMA, unless I missed something?

    VMA is easy street, just another bait thread.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/348058/maelstrom-arena/p1
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    I'm not mad i cant beat it, just dissappointed...
  • itehache
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    I don't really understand the point of your post.

    Anyway, people who is starting to play it will find it difficult. If you have already beaten it many times, you won't find it that difficult.

    People come here to the forums to share both experiences and rants, as with any other topic.

    I personally do not think vMA is easy, I'm stuck in the middle of it, but the more I play the less difficult it seems. It's all practice and knowledge of your class, really.
  • WldKarde
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    Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice

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  • Ep1kMalware
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    Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice

    Stage 5, stamina templar, 11k life.
    https://youtu.be/jXrYaymTXZs

    If I can do it like this those scrubs best believe they can do it on a mag sorc with like 30k life (inckluding shield) and a freaking pet. They have no excuse except lack of effort.

    I hear ya but that's what Imakes saying ppl need to L2P and understand how to play in a solo environment like VMA it takes time but it's not hard once you understand everything and now I would like to see some hard content in the game or at least make VMA harder or vet trials harder or something please zos please

    We havent had new weapons in ages, why not a 2 person arena.
  • Dantaria
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    If I can do it like this those scrubs best believe they can do it on a mag sorc with like 30k life (inckluding shield) and a freaking pet. They have no excuse except lack of effort.
    Erm... How about the lack of incentive?

    I passed all Craglorn vet Trials, currently in the vMoL progression group. I adore group-play, it's hella fun to run vAA with talking and joking, hella fun to PUG on my all three chars - magsorc, templar healer, tiny magdk :D - just for the sheer lolz and helping newbies (communicating first-timers in nRoM? GLORIOUS DAY!).

    When the hell almost freezes, I go to vMA. I make it through first arena. Sometimes - through second. But only sometimes.

    Because I very quickly start having a feeling that I... how can I put it... "playing with myself" instead of having actual sex.

    I stand there and ask myself, 'Why am I here? Why should I make it through this boring fest alone? For the... slim chance to get +2k dps? Really? For the slimmest chance?'

    Then I walk into the first red circle. Revive at wayshrine. And get out. Some time after I abandon the quest because I need a quest-slot.

    Then people like you start trolling me, 'lololol, n00b, where is your Stormproof title, lol'.

    I go to vMA. I make it through first arena. Sometimes - through second. But only sometimes...

    ...And the wheel of Samsara turns again.

    Funniest thing. Sometimes I die on the first arena. I know it very well by now. But I die, because... I just can't bring myself to pay enough attention. Can't make myself care about it. This place makes me cringe. I hate it. So I slip. On the easiest things.

    I don't give up on that point. It just feels kinda embarrassing. But these runs are runs when I give up straight on second arena.
    Edited by Dantaria on May 30, 2017 3:45AM
    English isn't my native, apologies for any mistakes.
  • Ep1kMalware
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    Dantaria wrote: »
    If I can do it like this those scrubs best believe they can do it on a mag sorc with like 30k life (inckluding shield) and a freaking pet. They have no excuse except lack of effort.
    Erm... How about the lack of incentive?

    I passed all Craglorn vet Trials, currently in the vMoL progression group. I adore group-play, it's hella fun to run vAA with talking and joking, hella fun to PUG on my all three chars - magsorc, templar healer, tiny magdk :D - just for the sheer lolz and helping newbies (communicating first-timers in nRoM? GLORIOUS DAY!).

    When the hell almost freezes, I go to vMA. I make it through first arena. Sometimes - through second. But only sometimes.

    Because I very quickly start having a feeling that I... how can I put it... "playing with myself" instead of having actual sex.

    I stand there and ask myself, 'Why am I here? Why should I make it through this boring fest alone? For the... slim chance to get +2k dps? Really? For the slimmest chance?'

    Then I walk into the first red circle. Revive at wayshrine. And get out. Some time after I abandon the quest because I need a quest-slot.

    Then people like you start trolling me, 'lololol, n00b, where is your Stormproof title, lol'.

    I go to vMA. I make it through first arena. Sometimes - through second. But only sometimes...

    ...And the wheel of Samsara turns again.

    Funniest thing. Sometimes I die on the first arena. I know it very well by now. But I die, because... I just can't bring myself to pay enough attention. Can't make myself care about it. This place makes me cringe. I hate it. So I slip. On the easiest things.

    I don't give up on that point. It just feels kinda embarrassing. But these runs are runs when I give up straight on second arena.

    It's alot more than +2k dpa for stam dps. I like running it when I can't do raids, it's a nice filler. Takes like 45 min.
  • Dantaria
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    It's alot more than +2k dpa for stam dps. I like running it when I can't do raids, it's a nice filler. Takes like 45 min.
    *shrugs* Honestly, even 5k-10k can't convince me.

    It never changes just like the dungeons and trials. But at least there I can meet (or take in when I'm RLing) some newbies and explain stuff to them. Generally meet new people. Teach something. Do something.

    There it's just... Run the same s**t for the 99.9% chance to get trash for decon.

    Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. Personally I see no point whatsoever no matter how hard I try :/ And achieving succes is very hard without motivation.
    English isn't my native, apologies for any mistakes.
  • disintegr8
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    No matter how easy you think VMA is, I'm sure there are still easier ways to make gold.

    But can you just imagine if they ever made it BOE how much someone who can't beat VMA now would pay for a sharpened weapon if they ever make it harder? We are talking about millions in a matter of 30 mins
    But there is still RNG, I am not sure that a prosperous or training (if they drop) maelstrom weapon is worth a mil >:)

    Personally I have never set foot in VMA but would not pay a million for a weapon either - but that is just me. I'd rather fish.
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  • Ep1kMalware
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    Dantaria wrote: »
    It's alot more than +2k dpa for stam dps. I like running it when I can't do raids, it's a nice filler. Takes like 45 min.
    *shrugs* Honestly, even 5k-10k can't convince me.

    It never changes just like the dungeons and trials. But at least there I can meet (or take in when I'm RLing) some newbies and explain stuff to them. Generally meet new people. Teach something. Do something.

    There it's just... Run the same s**t for the 99.9% chance to get trash for decon.

    Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. Personally I see no point whatsoever no matter how hard I try :/ And achieving succes is very hard without motivation.

    Indeed man. I say this only offer perspective, but after a few vma runs I fiund myself doing it on autopilot listening to creepypastas on youtube or watching rick and morty.

    It aint even bad. And to rhink my first clear took 5 days, a carton of cigs, a case of monster, 3 prescriptions of prozac, and 2 controllers. I feel your frustrations, but they really do just vanish. I have multiples of every sharp weapon, but I can't explain why I like it. Maybe it's jist the combat mixed with a little stockholm syndrome.
  • Volrion
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    Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice

    Stage 5, stamina templar, 11k life.
    https://youtu.be/jXrYaymTXZs

    If I can do it like this those scrubs best believe they can do it on a mag sorc with like 30k life (inckluding shield) and a freaking pet. They have no excuse except lack of effort.

    Where in the world do you play from? Unless you're at least an above average player, you're going to have a really hard time on VMA if you're not playing from America on NA server. I can't speak for EU players, but I know it's a huge problem for guys trying to do end-game from Asia on NA server.

    In my opinion, average (or worse) skilled players have very little chance of getting a clear under these conditions.

    I've cleared VMA without even paying attention when playing from Florida. When I tried it from Japan (with a better internet connection) it was a different story all together. Still got it done, but the lag is terrible and it's not enjoyable at all.

    I run a 100mb connection here in Osaka and just a standard ping to Texas is about 400ms. That's before you start spiking with all the bugs, server load etc. in ESO. It's brutal man.

    VMA, Vet Trials, and PVP are held behind the gate keeper of connectivity for most players.
    Edited by Volrion on May 30, 2017 5:36AM
  • SnubbS
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    I don't know if this glitch happens on other platforms, but the dremora kyngalds glitch and become invincible for me in like 50% of my runs. That's how they increase vMA difficulty—they just break the Arena more.
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    GoW eSports player & part time ESO Pug Ball Zerger.
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  • Coilbox
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    No one is omplaining about VMA, unless I missed something?

    VMA is easy street, just another bait thread.

    There was just a new post a few min and or hours ago about someone else upset that they can't beat it

    And you saw it and decided to just come and ask for exactly the opposite to look very cool...
    Comrade, a word...
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Nobody thinks vMA is hard. The problem is the RNG. It can take over 1000 runs to get the weapon you need.
  • Qbiken
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    Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice

    Stage 5, stamina templar, 11k life.
    https://youtu.be/jXrYaymTXZs

    If I can do it like this those scrubs best believe they can do it on a mag sorc with like 30k life (inckluding shield) and a freaking pet. They have no excuse except lack of effort.

    Personal preferens: Swap out rapid strikes for Power of the Light, you have enough sourcer of healing anyway xD
  • Feanor
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    Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice

    Stage 5, stamina templar, 11k life.
    https://youtu.be/jXrYaymTXZs

    If I can do it like this those scrubs best believe they can do it on a mag sorc with like 30k life (inckluding shield) and a freaking pet. They have no excuse except lack of effort.

    This is now a nerf Templar thread ;)
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  • SirDopey
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    Name and shaming cheaters and bots get's your thread ripped down but troll threads like this get to stay up?!?!?!

    Good work ZOS.....
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  • GlorphNoldorin
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    Volrion wrote: »
    Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice

    Stage 5, stamina templar, 11k life.
    https://youtu.be/jXrYaymTXZs

    If I can do it like this those scrubs best believe they can do it on a mag sorc with like 30k life (inckluding shield) and a freaking pet. They have no excuse except lack of effort.

    Where in the world do you play from? Unless you're at least an above average player, you're going to have a really hard time on VMA if you're not playing from America on NA server. I can't speak for EU players, but I know it's a huge problem for guys trying to do end-game from Asia on NA server.

    In my opinion, average (or worse) skilled players have very little chance of getting a clear under these conditions.

    I've cleared VMA without even paying attention when playing from Florida. When I tried it from Japan (with a better internet connection) it was a different story all together. Still got it done, but the lag is terrible and it's not enjoyable at all.

    I run a 100mb connection here in Osaka and just a standard ping to Texas is about 400ms. That's before you start spiking with all the bugs, server load etc. in ESO. It's brutal man.

    VMA, Vet Trials, and PVP are held behind the gate keeper of connectivity for most players.

    Thanks for this post man. I run 300-330 ping from Australia and I can get vma done with 4ish deaths pre morrow wind. I thought flawless was attainable, not so sure now (maybe if rng lined up lol). Now its definitely harder with regen and lag seems worse. I've given up raiding due to lag and the burden on my raid groups. I'll still go into vma but it aint fun. I'd settle for a ping in the 200's.
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Volrion wrote: »
    Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice

    Stage 5, stamina templar, 11k life.
    https://youtu.be/jXrYaymTXZs

    If I can do it like this those scrubs best believe they can do it on a mag sorc with like 30k life (inckluding shield) and a freaking pet. They have no excuse except lack of effort.

    Where in the world do you play from? Unless you're at least an above average player, you're going to have a really hard time on VMA if you're not playing from America on NA server. I can't speak for EU players, but I know it's a huge problem for guys trying to do end-game from Asia on NA server.

    In my opinion, average (or worse) skilled players have very little chance of getting a clear under these conditions.

    I've cleared VMA without even paying attention when playing from Florida. When I tried it from Japan (with a better internet connection) it was a different story all together. Still got it done, but the lag is terrible and it's not enjoyable at all.

    I run a 100mb connection here in Osaka and just a standard ping to Texas is about 400ms. That's before you start spiking with all the bugs, server load etc. in ESO. It's brutal man.

    VMA, Vet Trials, and PVP are held behind the gate keeper of connectivity for most players.

    Thanks for this post man. I run 300-330 ping from Australia and I can get vma done with 4ish deaths pre morrow wind. I thought flawless was attainable, not so sure now (maybe if rng lined up lol). Now its definitely harder with regen and lag seems worse. I've given up raiding due to lag and the burden on my raid groups. I'll still go into vma but it aint fun. I'd settle for a ping in the 200's.

    Yeah, I'm considering upgrading to NBN for trial groups. Lag is stupid rediculous here
  • BulletCraft86
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    NBN will not help your ping here in Australia. its not about how fast you can download but the speed in which your ping can travel to the NA server. I have NBN 250ping is the best i can get, i have tried vpn's as well as every option regarding port forwarding/ firewall exceptions. you name it ive tried it.

    Id really like to see a run of VMA @ 300 ping i found doing normal nearly impossible as i would die before animations would even show. Tried VMA and its stupid. its all about timing and yet im already behind with such a stupid ping rate. How on earth are trials and dungeons not playable yet VMA is @ a 300ping?

    Anyways, i would pay alot of money to watch a season Veteran pro do VMA with the massive lag we get here in Australia.
  • Bicarrat
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    No one is omplaining about VMA, unless I missed something?

    VMA is easy street, just another bait thread.

    There was just a new post a few min and or hours ago about someone else upset that they can't beat it

    Yeah, I moaned about it recently, but not so much due to the mechanics or the difficulty than the fact that I am slowly beginning to loath myself for not being able to complete it, is all. Having said that I made some progress last night, so all is good for a spell.
  • Juli'St
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    Why are ppl still crying about VMA? Really it's been out for how long now? People have builds out to where you can beat it with ZERO CP now it's easy once you L2P it ya the first few times are hard and stage 5 was hell but really after you look at your death recap 100 times since you keep getting killed then maybe just maybe I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that you should kill what's killing you first weather it be adds or just focus on the boss. Maybe don't stand in the big red dots or maybe when you get poison on you in the poison round then jump in 1 of the 2 big green pools. So what I would love to know from zos is when will you make it harder? If people want a token system and want to make maelstrom weapons BOE cool but make it harder and I would be fine with running it over just to make some extra gold that would be nice

    Some ppl not are heroes... or not have all life to expend in a game. Sorry bro, we are just common people with family, jobs, etc. :/
    Edited by Juli'St on May 30, 2017 9:24AM
  • Betsararie
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    If you can't beat VMA you need to rework your build and L2P....

    The RNG is a different story, nobody has control over that.
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