Writ daily changes, good or bad?

kunquatb16_ESO · May 2017

It appears that the writ dailies got changed. It use to be that, if you have them in your quest journal when the daily reset happened, and then subsequently did them, you could pick up more. Now, it seems not.
Although players who are able to play everyday are unaffected by this. Casual players who relied on this to get a few extra writs done can no longer. I'm not sure why it has been changed.

I generally have time to do them everyday if I want, but still liked the flexibility and player choice the previous behavior gave. The more a game becomes "you must play everyday or lose out*", the less accessible it becomes to new and casual players. The less able it becomes to grow it's user base.

* I know, if you play more, you get more, it's not that. It's the must play everyday bit. Take a player that can get on for the weekends, and maybe wednesdays. they use to be able to do Thurs / fri writs on friday, sat, sun. Pickup on monday (not everyone has time to do writs everyday), then skip tuesdays writs, on wednesday, do mondays pickup and wednesdays ones.
Now they get friday saturday and sunday, and wednesday, but miss out on monday tuesday and thursday. They lose 2 days of writs, and that's best case scenario for weekend players.

Should Writ daily behavior be reverted

itehache · May 2017

Abstain (undecided), I don't see a difference.

I just did not realise as I do them every day. If one day I cannot log in I just don't think about it. It is what happens with the daily quests, they're daily lol

Lylith · May 2017

Yes, the previous behavoir was better.

didn't know they changed it.

another unnecessary 'fix.'

ofc, it forces the player to be less efficient with in-game time.

wonder whotf thought that was a good idea.

Rev Rielle · May 2017

I just checked this. It hasn't changed.

LMar · May 2017

I also had writs from a previous day and did them and then i could pick up the current day's writs. However, as it has always been, if the writs happen to ask the same thing then you cannot do the same one on the same day

kunquatb16_ESO · May 2017

LMar wrote: »

I also had writs from a previous day and did them and then i could pick up the current day's writs. However, as it has always been, if the writs happen to ask the same thing then you cannot do the same one on the same day

Could be that, Asked for a mate who only plays weekends, but doesn't do forums as is easily stressed. I also tank for them in game too XD

Though, they should make sure writs don't repeat like that, so people can always do them.

idk · May 2017

This past week I picked up writs a couple times and did them the next day along with that days writs. No issues and no changes.

If you save the writs until a day that the writ calls for the same item it does not work since it is the same writ, but only some of the writs will be the same. I think enchanting has only two writs for example so picking it up and skipping a day does not work.

zaria · May 2017

Abstain (undecided), I don't see a difference.

In my experience if you did an daily the previous day but forgot to hand it in before today, you would not get it again this day.
This predates Morrowind. Managed to get into it during the anniversary event there I did lots of dailies.

SHADOW2KK · May 2017

The time for writs refresh has changed, but you can still grab them and do them the next day and pick up more after 2100 or 2130 PC EU I have noticed.

ParaNostram · May 2017

Abstain (undecided), I don't see a difference.

Huh? I just log on in the morning and do my writs if I feel like it then go adventuring.

Qyrk · May 2017

You still can from my end.

Dracindo · May 2017

After the update, I completed some daily quests the next day, and after receiving my reward, I could immediatly accept another one.

So, this hasn't changed, from my point of view. Did you perhaps finish your dailies an hour or few minutes before the daily reset? For example, it should reset at 22:00, and you often complete the daily at 22:30, allowing you to accept the next daily already, but now you're finishing them at 21:30, and believe the reset happens at 21:00.

Could that be an answer to why it's happening to you?

Sounomi · May 2017

There's 3 possible daily writ quests you can get (except alchemy which has 4 for who knows why). Say you picked up Writ Daily B and didn't turn it til after the reset. If you turn it on the day you get Writ Daily B, you won't get it again but if you turned it on a day you got Writ Daily A or Writ Daily C, you'd still get a daily.

This is how quest NPCs that rotate through a list of possible daily quests work and it still hasn't changed. If you don't get the daily turned into the next day with these NPCs, you're fine*. However if you wait too long, you may find yourself at the same spot in their rotation and run into this conflict.

*The daily delve quests in Wrothgar is an exception to this if you haven't done the quests in two of the delves there. Simply being if you haven't done those quests, you can't get the daily for that delve and to compensate for it, the rotation instead uses the daily for the next day in its place, leading to potential conflict.

Cpt_Teemo · May 2017

Yes, the previous behavoir was better.

So if this is affecting writs, it might be affecting any daily then which blows.

Cpt_Teemo · May 2017

Yes, the previous behavoir was better.

Dracindo wrote: »

After the update, I completed some daily quests the next day, and after receiving my reward, I could immediatly accept another one.

So, this hasn't changed, from my point of view. Did you perhaps finish your dailies an hour or few minutes before the daily reset? For example, it should reset at 22:00, and you often complete the daily at 22:30, allowing you to accept the next daily already, but now you're finishing them at 21:30, and believe the reset happens at 21:00.

Could that be an answer to why it's happening to you?

You could have finished them the next day as well, cause I had unfinished daily quests the day before did them and picked them up again.

Tommy_The_Gun · May 2017

Yes, the previous behavoir was better.

I don't know what was exactly changed but after a patch, up to this day I got "0".. none "Master Crafting Writs".. but maybe it is just some RNG wired coincidence.. who knows...

notimetocare · May 2017

No, The new behavoir is better.

Good change, as much as I made use of the old mechanic it wasnt good

Lylith · May 2017

Yes, the previous behavoir was better.

hasn't changed, fortunately.

just checked it a minute ago.

good deal.

kunquatb16_ESO · May 2017

This is the OP, Zeni, can you please lock this thread?

O_LYKOS · May 2017

No, The new behavoir is better.

Way I see it,

If I'm doing something in the game for an hour, there's a guy busting his ass every single day for 6 hours, yet I'm keeping up with his progress, how is that fair on him?

starkerealm · May 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

This past week I picked up writs a couple times and did them the next day along with that days writs. No issues and no changes.

If you save the writs until a day that the writ calls for the same item it does not work since it is the same writ, but only some of the writs will be the same. I think enchanting has only two writs for example so picking it up and skipping a day does not work.

Enchanting has 3. Alchemy and Provisioning have 4. I'm honestly not sure how many different equipment writs exist. But, yeah, this is the issue.

You can see the same behavior from quests that you can share between players. You can do each daily once per day. However, most daily questgivers actually have a pool of different possible quests to pick from. For example, Bolgrul has 15. You can do each of those quests once per day. Once you've completed one, you cannot do that one again today, but you can do one of the others if you can get someone to share it with you.

Pulling down a quest, then waiting until the day that it comes up again and running it doesn't work. For exactly the same reason you can't run a boss daily in wrothgar twice in the same day, (by having it shared to you, then picking it up yourself).

Cpt_Teemo · May 2017

Yes, the previous behavoir was better.

O_LYKOS wrote: »

Way I see it,

If I'm doing something in the game for an hour, there's a guy busting his ass every single day for 6 hours, yet I'm keeping up with his progress, how is that fair on him?

Yeah my main crafter has every motif learned, and nearly all traits about 8 more to go, and still hasn't seen a master writ over 20 vouchers in 2 months, also barely even gets any master writs anymore.

kunquatb16_ESO · May 2017

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

O_LYKOS wrote: »

Way I see it,

If I'm doing something in the game for an hour, there's a guy busting his ass every single day for 6 hours, yet I'm keeping up with his progress, how is that fair on him?

Yeah my main crafter has every motif learned, and nearly all traits about 8 more to go, and still hasn't seen a master writ over 20 vouchers in 2 months, also barely even gets any master writs anymore.

Might as well be a discussion about writs, as my OP is based on a misunderstanding. I think drop chance for master writs is scaled off craft knowledge (traits, styles ect), but not sure if voucher rewards are.

O_LYKOS · May 2017

No, The new behavoir is better.

I can only agree with your statement OP, "if you play more, you get more". This is exactly it. This is how games should be.

But then you go on to complain still that players who can't play everyday lose out on doing writs.

"* I know, if you play more, you get more, it's not that. It's the must play everyday bit. Take a player that can get on for the weekends, and maybe wednesdays. they use to be able to do Thurs / fri writs on friday, sat, sun. Pickup on monday (not everyone has time to do writs everyday), then skip tuesdays writs, on wednesday, do mondays pickup and wednesdays ones.
Now they get friday saturday and sunday, and wednesday, but miss out on monday tuesday and thursday. They lose 2 days of writs, and that's best case scenario for weekend players."

It's about sacrifice. Get on everyday and do the things in game you want to do or you lose out. I understand people have lives. But that's no ones fault. If someone puts x amount of time in to a game more than others, why shouldn't they be more progressed?

danno8 · May 2017

Hasn't changed. You can still hand in your current writs in your quest journal, then after completing pick up the new days writs.

I did this a couple times last week (after Morrowind dropped)

kunquatb16_ESO · May 2017

O_LYKOS wrote: »

I can only agree with your statement OP, "if you play more, you get more". This is exactly it. This is how games should be.

But then you go on to complain still that players who can't play everyday lose out on doing writs.

"* I know, if you play more, you get more, it's not that. It's the must play everyday bit. Take a player that can get on for the weekends, and maybe wednesdays. they use to be able to do Thurs / fri writs on friday, sat, sun. Pickup on monday (not everyone has time to do writs everyday), then skip tuesdays writs, on wednesday, do mondays pickup and wednesdays ones.
Now they get friday saturday and sunday, and wednesday, but miss out on monday tuesday and thursday. They lose 2 days of writs, and that's best case scenario for weekend players."

It's about sacrifice. Get on everyday and do the things in game you want to do or you lose out. I understand people have lives. But that's no ones fault. If someone puts x amount of time in to a game more than others, why shouldn't they be more progressed?

It's not about amount of play. Example player A log on every day, only does writs, nothing else, 7 - 8 hours a week. Player B plays 3 days a week, for 6 - 10 hours each (18 - 30 hours play). but as I say, OP is based on a misunderstanding.

Hope they keep the current rollover feature as is.

kunquatb16_ESO · May 2017

Just requested lock of my own topic. Felt weird to report myself XD

ZOS_Bill · May 2017

We have locked this thread per the OP's request.

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