Differential Membership Service

umagon
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Currently the eso plus membership functions as a whole package and there maybe services in that package that some players do not want while other services they do want. The membership services could be paid for individually. Alongside a new service that lowers acquisition times for desired items for end game equipment.

So for example a player could select and pay for these services individually on the membership webpages:
-Access to dlc packs (with a sub selector for which ones)
-1500 Crowns per 30 day membership
-Upgrade to character progression experience
-Access to increased bank space
-Access to crafting bag
-Access to token based end game itemization (detailed below)

So for the token based itemization option this service would be purchased in 6 and 12 month intervals. This would allow zos to secure revenue despite the players gaining desired items then their play time decreasing. At the same time the service allows players to obtain items quicker.

By making the items bind on pickup would limit fluctuations to the in-game economy due to introduction of the system. Also, a requirement that players must have complete goals in the play fields insures that they actually play game content and learn the game mechanics. Which removes the “pay to win” factor.

How this could work in game would be creating a token for each pve and pvp play field. The number of tokens required to purchase item sets would still be controlled and a maximum allowance for stored tokens set. This allows for control of acquisition times within the system and prevents situation where players have large amounts of tokens stored. Which could allow them to quickly obtain newly released items faster than intended.

End game items would still be obtained through their current means and the current payout rates would not be changed. It’s important for people who do not want the service to still be able to acquire items within the currently set time frames. Increasing these times could detract players from the game because they would feel they are forced to pay into the service in order to progress; on top of paying for the base game.

In PVE: A vendor who sells containers for each monster set and trial set is created. To purchase the set a player has to have completed the corresponding trial or monster dungeon at least once. Each boss defeat automatically awards a token. Items purchased via this method are bind on pick up.

In PVP: A vendor who sells containers for each pvp set is created. To purchase the sets a player has to have participated in that corresponding pvp play field by completion of specific pvp quests. Completing quests automatically awards tokens. Items purchased via this method are bind on pick up.

The vendor containers would list items in this format:
[Set Name] [Armor/Weapon/Accessory] [Tait] [Token price]

Note: Numbers and traits list are only used to illustrate concept.

So for example the PVE container list would look like:
Berserking Warrior Armor Sturdy 6 PVE Tokens (contains the full 7 piece armor set)
Berserking Warrior Armor Reinforced 6 PVE Tokens (contains the full 7 piece armor set)
Berserking Warrior Accessories Healthy 3 PVE Tokens (contains the full 3 piece accessory set)
Berserking Warrior Twohanders Sharped 4 PVE Tokens (contains one maul, great sword, and battle axe)
Berserking Warrior Twohanders Defending 4 PVE Tokens (contains one maul, great sword, and battle axe)
Berserking Warrior Bows Sharpened/Precise/Defending 4 PVE Tokens (contains a bow for each trait listed)
Berserking Warrior One Hand and Shield Defending/Sturdy 3 PVE Tokens (contains one sword and one shield of shown traits)
Berserking Warrior One Hand and Shield Sharpened/Reinforced 3 PVE Tokens (contains one sword and one shield of shown traits)
Berserking Warrior One Handed Sharpened 4 PVE Tokens (contains one sword, mace, axe and dagger)
Berserking Warrior One Handed Defending 4 PVE Tokens (contains one sword, mace, axe and dagger)
Berserking Warrior Staffs Sharpened 5 PVE Tokens (contains one frost, fire, lighting and healing staff)
Berserking Warrior Staffs Defending 5 PVE Tokens (contains one frost, fire, lighting and healing staff)

Blood Spawn Heavy Infused 3 PVE Tokens (contains the compete Blood Spawn set)
Blood Spawn Light Infused 3 PVE Tokens (contains the compete Blood Spawn set)
Blood Spawn Medium Infused 3 PVE Tokens (contains the compete Blood Spawn set)


So for example the PVP container list would look like:
Crest of Cyrodiil Armor Impenetrable 20 PVP Tokens (contains the full 7 piece armor set)
Crest of Cyrodiil Accessories Healthy 8 PVP Tokens (contains the full 3 piece accessory set)
Crest of Cyrodiil Twohanders Sharped 10 PVP Tokens (contains one maul, great sword, and battle axe)
Crest of Cyrodiil Twohanders Defending 10 PVP Tokens (contains one maul, great sword, and battle axe)
Crest of Cyrodiil Bows Sharpened/Precise/Defending 10 PVP Tokens (contains a bow for each trait listed)
Crest of Cyrodiil One Hand and Shield Defending/Impenetrable 8 PVP Tokens (contains one sword and one shield of shown traits)
Crest of Cyrodiil One Hand and Shield Sharpened/Impenetrable 8 PVP Tokens (contains one sword and one shield of shown traits)
Crest of Cyrodiil One Handed Sharpened 15 PVP Tokens (contains one sword, mace, axe and dagger)
Crest of Cyrodiil One Handed Defending 15 PVP Tokens (contains one sword, mace, axe and dagger)
Crest of Cyrodiil Staffs Sharpened 15 PVP Tokens (contains one frost, fire, lighting and healing staff)
Crest of Cyrodiil Staffs Defending 15 PVP Tokens (contains one frost, fire, lighting and healing staff)
  • KochDerDamonen
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    I can feel my bones vibrating at the concept of paying for easier access to gear.

    Please, divines, don't let this become a Turbine F2P...

    Hoho,haha. It's fair, we swear. It totally doesn't take months (or longer) to gear up without forking over cash... Good ol' Turbine.
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  • Sigtric
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    I can feel my bones vibrating at the concept of paying for easier access to gear.

    Please, divines, don't let this become a Turbine F2P...

    Hoho,haha. It's fair, we swear. It totally doesn't take months (or longer) to gear up without forking over cash... Good ol' Turbine.

    Why did you have to remind me of this

    I am crying inside


    OP: sorry. NO!

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  • PlagueSD
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    Congratulations...you just described P2W. No thank you...
  • riberion
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    You should never be able to get in game gear with real life currency.

    I'm sorry, but having to complete a dungeon or trial once and be able to purchase a specific piece of gear is, by definition, pay to win. Group dungeons are crazy easy, so this does not, in any way, limit the sub in access to the exact gear they want.
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  • lagrue
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    It's a shame they don't have a downvote/dislike button.

    Please sign out and never return. Normally I wouldn't say something like this - but you and your ideas represent everything that would destroy this game. We are much safer without your kind around.
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  • Blackshark
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    It's $15/month. Literally not even worth their effort to code this.
  • White wabbit
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    Omg no just no
  • PlagueSD
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    lagrue wrote: »
    It's a shame they don't have a downvote/dislike button.

    Please sign out and never return. Normally I wouldn't say something like this - but you and your ideas represent everything that would destroy this game. We are much safer without your kind around.

    Yeah, then need a "What the #$% were you thinking" button next to "Awesome"
  • geonsocal
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    @umagon ...you've very obviously have put a good bit of thought into this and took the time to write it up and post it...

    what was it though which inspired you to think in this direction???
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  • White wabbit
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    @umagon ...you've very obviously have put a good bit of thought into this and took the time to write it up and post it...

    what was it though which inspired you to think in this direction???

    Off his Meds is my thinking
  • kargen27
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    The shorter version of OP.

    If you subscribe you don't have to deal with RNG.


    And a summation of the replies.

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  • Tandor
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    I've read some pretty bad ideas on this forum, doubtless posted a few myself, but in all honesty I don't think I've seen any worse than this one. It reads like an accounting/coding nightmare culminating in Pay to Win.
  • Linaleah
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    ok, OP. you realize you can just buy DLC's without subscribing already, right? buy crowns - buy DLC's from crown store.

    being able to buy craft bag slots individually (kinda like GW2 does it) could work

    aside from that... holy mother of just.. don't. this kind of crap when it comes to gear aquisition is murdering swtor right now, ESO really doesn't need that. at all.
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • Katahdin
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    Not only "no", but HELL NO.

    This is as pay to win as they come
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  • brandonv516
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    I want to buy Tomorrowind for battlegrounds only for $10 (after its fixed). Make it happen.
  • otis67
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    Absolutely not, no way. Terrible idea.
  • AlienatedGoat
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    umagon wrote: »
    ...Alongside a new service that lowers acquisition times for desired items for end game equipment...

    -Access to token based end game itemization (detailed below)...

    ...This would allow zos to secure revenue despite the players gaining desired items then their play time decreasing. At the same time the service allows players to obtain items quicker...

    ...Which removes the “pay to win” factor.

    Lol wut?

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    OP, that's literally the exact definition of P2W.

    You've described a system to allow players to buy their way into endgame.

    That's cut and dry P2W.

    Are you serious?


    ....


    Guys I think he's serious. Jesus Christ.

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  • idk
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    I can feel my bones vibrating at the concept of paying for easier access to gear.

    Please, divines, don't let this become a Turbine F2P...

    Hoho,haha. It's fair, we swear. It totally doesn't take months (or longer) to gear up without forking over cash... Good ol' Turbine.

    Yes, easier access to gear might just bring about calls of P2W, especially with the horrid grind in this game.

    I did not read deep into the OP since it was so long, really stopped at the idea of buy one month sub and get one free, which is what a 1500 crown for a month sub would essentially be. Zos has rejected this idea before and I highly doubt it will ever occur. Self defeating.

    The sub is a good deal as it is for those interested in the monthly payment. I do not think we need to tier it. We certainly do not need to give gear benefits at all, other than Zos creating a reasonable gear drop system for everyone.
  • Nyladreas
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    While I'm one of the people who wouldn't have a financial problem with p2w. I hope it never ever happens to this wonderful game. It would destroy everything that's been built so far. P2W is like a bad disease.
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    lagrue wrote: »
    It's a shame they don't have a downvote/dislike button.

    Please sign out and never return. Normally I wouldn't say something like this - but you and your ideas represent everything that would destroy this game. We are much safer without your kind around.

    Destroyed? It's allready eating itself, this would just be the last nail in the coffin.
  • radiostar
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    Nobody doesn't like RNG!
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  • QUEZ420
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    Wall of text is op af.
  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    That first part sounds a LOT like the airlines and their 'we're not charging for bags now, we're just making a new tier of fares with bags not included!'...no thank you.
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  • theher0not
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    tokens for ESO+, so you want it to be P2W? no thanks.

    But paying a lesser sum for just some of the features could be nice, but I don't see it ever happening.
    Edited by theher0not on May 26, 2017 5:49PM
  • RedWarrior72
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    The way it was described is kind of like the old justice points system in WoW. But to have access to any of it, should be with a sub only. Like it was stated before, DLC can be bought without a sub. For those without a sub, they should add access to the craft bag, bank and bag storage for crowns. Maybe reduce it by a quarter less on bank and bag and half on the craft bag than with a sub when at max so that sub still has access to more.
  • Hallothiel
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    No.
  • essi2
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    ZOS would scam the *** out of us if they felt they could nickle and dim us for ESO+ Features
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  • Kodrac
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    Not the response the OP was looking for.

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  • Nyladreas
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    Actually yanno what? This is a WONDERFUL idea. Except the ESO+ part. Add tokens but give them to EVERYBODY through some ingame action ;)
  • IronCrystal
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    riberion wrote: »
    You should never be able to get in game gear with real life currency.

    I bought a bucket and broom for real-life currency. P2W.
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