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Is it possible to do Vvardenfell tutorial on already maxed character?
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✭✭✭✭CountEdmondDantes wrote: »TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
Oh, FFS!CountEdmondDantes wrote: »Yesterday, I created a warden and skipped the tutorial because I thought it was the same old Wailing Prison tutorial. Later I found out it was new. Since I like to play all the content, I'll create a new character and run this again on my own.
PS: Wailing Prison has a Skyshard (not to be confused with Skill Points). I don't know if that has any meaningful impact on the potential number of Skill Points but I thought I'd chuck it in.
I have to be honest: I'm not really seeing how my decision to actually play the tutorial after skipping in the first time - just to see what it's like - impacts your game enjoyment in any significant way. So maybe dial it down a notch?
TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
Oh, FFS!CountEdmondDantes wrote: »Yesterday, I created a warden and skipped the tutorial because I thought it was the same old Wailing Prison tutorial. Later I found out it was new. Since I like to play all the content, I'll create a new character and run this again on my own.
PS: Wailing Prison has a Skyshard (not to be confused with Skill Points). I don't know if that has any meaningful impact on the potential number of Skill Points but I thought I'd chuck it in.
How many times do we all have to tell you people that Wailing Prison is now available to EVERYONE. It's a part of the main story now, if you make a character and do the Morrowind tutorial, do your stuff in Vvardenfell, then leave for mainland, you WILL STILL (YES) BE ABLE TO DO WAILING PRISON.
How many times? I don't know. I've never seen it until this thread. But then, hey, I don't live on these forums and I don't read every damn post.
If someone asking a question makes you that upset, maybe it's time to switch to decaf.
What made me upset is that people assume that without any knowledge LOL.0 -
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There are roleplay options so you can work around it.
There is also a possibility that Zos can fix it for the future. #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Darlgon✭✭✭✭✭
✭@DoShazarr Just did the high level quest on my main.
You are going to have a choice..
Never experience the high level quest and find out the backstory on the low level quest, if you only want to experience it as a "new" character..
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Create an alt, do the low level quest, then do the high level quest and find out why.
You cant have both unless you use both a new character and a high level character, because the quests are exclusive.
And, yeah.. a whole page has been put into this thread since I checked last. Did not read the new page.
Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
Where is new content? Sigh.0 -
mystfit✭✭✭There is apparently a quest right near the front of the zone that ONLY established characters can do. If you delete your character cause it can't do the tutorial, then then the new one CAN'T do this quest and doesn't that balance the scales? Unless it is all about the skill points...Edited by mystfit on May 23, 2017 11:09PM0 -
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@Kharnamatic Leave Vvardenfell and visit a major city. A certain Hooded Figure will attract your attention.Kharnamatic wrote: »One question: how do you do the old wailing prison tutorial on a new toon now?UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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TheRealPotoroo✭✭✭✭✭
✭CountEdmondDantes wrote: »TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
Oh, FFS!CountEdmondDantes wrote: »Yesterday, I created a warden and skipped the tutorial because I thought it was the same old Wailing Prison tutorial. Later I found out it was new. Since I like to play all the content, I'll create a new character and run this again on my own.
PS: Wailing Prison has a Skyshard (not to be confused with Skill Points). I don't know if that has any meaningful impact on the potential number of Skill Points but I thought I'd chuck it in.
I have to be honest: I'm not really seeing how my decision to actually play the tutorial after skipping in the first time - just to see what it's like - impacts your game enjoyment in any significant way. So maybe dial it down a notch?
I was aiming at ZoS, but I can see how it's ambiguous.PC NA, PC EU
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✭✭As a guy who likes the lore and likes the RP aspect of the game, I completely agree. Established characters should be able to go through the Morrowind tutorial with the whole slave-capture sequence of events.
ZOS is just too incompetent to actually implement that.Edited by HatchetHaro on May 24, 2017 2:46AMBest Argonian NA and I will fight anyone for it
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CountEdmondDantes✭✭✭✭TheRealPotoroo wrote: »CountEdmondDantes wrote: »TheRealPotoroo wrote: »
Oh, FFS!CountEdmondDantes wrote: »Yesterday, I created a warden and skipped the tutorial because I thought it was the same old Wailing Prison tutorial. Later I found out it was new. Since I like to play all the content, I'll create a new character and run this again on my own.
PS: Wailing Prison has a Skyshard (not to be confused with Skill Points). I don't know if that has any meaningful impact on the potential number of Skill Points but I thought I'd chuck it in.
I have to be honest: I'm not really seeing how my decision to actually play the tutorial after skipping in the first time - just to see what it's like - impacts your game enjoyment in any significant way. So maybe dial it down a notch?
I was aiming at ZoS, but I can see how it's ambiguous.
My apologies. I misunderstood you.
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Avalon✭✭✭✭✭Am I the only person who always plays through the tutorial in ESO on every character?1 -
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✭Am I the only person who always plays through the tutorial in ESO on every character?
Possibly. When I start an alt I'm mainly thinking about how much I have to do to get it to something like a usable state. Doing the tutorial yet again has always seemed like a waste of time.PC NA, PC EU
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✭Am I the only person who always plays through the tutorial in ESO on every character?
No.
As a matter of fact, every time I play thru a PTS cycle, I play thru the tutorial just to see what has changed.. a LOT has changed since the first one. I miss leaving with 60 bags full of goodies...Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
Where is new content? Sigh.1 -
crashen17b14_ESO✭✭✭There are two, mutually exclusiflve quest lines that intersect on Firemoth Island. One as the Rescuer, the other as the Rescued. If you create a new character, you experience the shipwreck and capture, Naryu explains basic combat, and you run through three small interiors and one exterior, escaping the walled section of the island. Here you will encounter old characters rescuing slaves.
If you are an already existing character, you arrive in Seyda Neen and can take a quest where you conduct an investigation and ultimately travel to Firemoth Island and rescue some slaves. Here you will encounter new characters escaping.0 -
Blackshark✭✭✭crashen17b14_ESO wrote: »There are two, mutually exclusiflve quest lines that intersect on Firemoth Island. One as the Rescuer, the other as the Rescued. If you create a new character, you experience the shipwreck and capture, Naryu explains basic combat, and you run through three small interiors and one exterior, escaping the walled section of the island. Here you will encounter old characters rescuing slaves.
If you are an already existing character, you arrive in Seyda Neen and can take a quest where you conduct an investigation and ultimately travel to Firemoth Island and rescue some slaves. Here you will encounter new characters escaping.
FYI, if you skip the tutorial on a new character then you get the second option to do as the game treats your character as an established character.
Source: Made new Warden and skipped tutorial. Then did investigation in Seyda Neen that led to Firemoth Island to free slaves.
This new tutorial is all sorts of screwed up for established characters though. They all miss out on that one extra skill point!
@crashen17b14_ESOEdited by Blackshark on May 24, 2017 2:32PM1 -
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And given that new characters who skip the tutorial get the other quest, as you say, they can't just stick a skill point on the other quest and call it quits, because that wouldn't work either.Blackshark wrote: »FYI, if you skip the tutorial on a new character then you get the second option to do as the game treats your character as an established character.
This new tutorial is all sorts of screwed up for established characters though. They all miss out on that one extra skill point!UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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drakhan2002_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I am literally considering deleting my main character and starting all over (which means getting all quests, all other achievements, PVP ranks, Skyshards, Books, etc. etc.).
It just really really really hurts not being able to make my character a part of the whole story. It's like an OCD thing.
I sure hope this is in jest. Why would you cut off your nose to spite your face? Since any character "new" character can do the new content, why not just roll an alt to do the quest so you can enjoy the content for what it is...have the experience of doing.
Deleting a character you've worked hard to build is an extreme step, but of course, that is your decision.0 -
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✭✭✭✭I love that you were able to find a way around this, nice job and some inventive suggestions!
It does bug me though that:- A player cannot choose where to start their character - if ESO has any love at all towards light RPers or story nerds, this should be changed - just give a choice at character creation (Also suggest an option that if a player has already done either of the existing tutorials, they are given an option to load straight into Skyreach with a pre-assigned partner for grinding purposes so the rest of us don't have to hear any requests for Skyreach carries ever again
j/k) - New characters can do both Vvardenfell and Main Quest "Tutorials", but existing players cannot do the Vvardenfell one - you put in a bridging quest one way, put one in the other way too. It wouldn't even require a huge amount of (if any) voice acting, you know that letter we get about Vvardenfell? Just have it start a quest and tell us to go to the relevant ship on a particular dock, then put existing character into the Morrowind tutorial - how hard would that be?
Edited by Epona222 on May 24, 2017 2:58PMGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
Epona was a Romano-Celtic goddess dating back to around 1800 to 2000 years before computer games were invented.0 - A player cannot choose where to start their character - if ESO has any love at all towards light RPers or story nerds, this should be changed - just give a choice at character creation (Also suggest an option that if a player has already done either of the existing tutorials, they are given an option to load straight into Skyreach with a pre-assigned partner for grinding purposes so the rest of us don't have to hear any requests for Skyreach carries ever again
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Galwylin✭✭✭✭✭I would bet that new characters that remain on Morrowind don't get that nifty Azure prequest. New characters get the maybe there's a problem happening while old ones know there is.0 -
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You can do that quest after you leave Vvardenfell. There's different dialogue if you've already completed the Divine Power storyline.I would bet that new characters that remain on Morrowind don't get that nifty Azure prequest. New characters get the maybe there's a problem happening while old ones know there is.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭✭✭✭I would bet that new characters that remain on Morrowind don't get that nifty Azure prequest. New characters get the maybe there's a problem happening while old ones know there is.
I already did that quest on live on my main before Morrowind went onto live servers for early access so I already have the memento - but the quest is still there for my alts that didn't do it yet. Also on the PTS that quest stayed there regardless of how long I spent in Morrowind, or whether I went there with new or existing characters.
I don't think anyone will find themselves cut off from that memento, it's a little separate quest that just gives some flavour, it's not actually attached to Morrowind/Vvardenfell at all.GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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And given that new characters who skip the tutorial get the other quest, as you say, they can't just stick a skill point on the other quest and call it quits, because that wouldn't work either.Blackshark wrote: »FYI, if you skip the tutorial on a new character then you get the second option to do as the game treats your character as an established character.
This new tutorial is all sorts of screwed up for established characters though. They all miss out on that one extra skill point!
@Enodoc The simple solution is to remove the skill point from "Soul Shriven in Coldharbour". Literally a basic 10 second hotfix.
I'm curious as to how they correct this going forward. There are a ton of new characters that are going to have one extra skill point compared to pre-morrowind characters! Maybe subtract 1 skill point from all new characters who have completed "Soul Shriven in Coldharbour"?
Or maybe they just ignore it as I haven't heard anything yet from ZOS.Edited by Blackshark on May 24, 2017 4:45PM0 -
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It's not that simple either. Players who don't own Morrowind still need the skill point from Soul Shriven in Coldharbour. They should remove the skill point from Broken Bonds and stick it on Divine Conundrum instead.Blackshark wrote: »
@Enodoc The simple solution is to remove the skill point from "Soul Shriven in Coldharbour". Literally a basic 10 second hotfix.
And given that new characters who skip the tutorial get the other quest, as you say, they can't just stick a skill point on the other quest and call it quits, because that wouldn't work either.Blackshark wrote: »FYI, if you skip the tutorial on a new character then you get the second option to do as the game treats your character as an established character.
This new tutorial is all sorts of screwed up for established characters though. They all miss out on that one extra skill point!
I'm curious as to how they correct this going forward. There are a ton of new characters that are going to have one extra skill point compared to pre-morrowind characters! Maybe subtract 1 skill point from all new characters who have completed "Soul Shriven in Coldharbour"?
Or maybe they just ignore it as I haven't heard anything yet from ZOS.
Or better yet, just allow existing characters to choose to play or skip Broken Bonds by talking to Captain Jenassa when they first travel to Vvardenfell, since that's what this thread was originally about.Edited by Enodoc on May 24, 2017 5:23PMUESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭✭✭✭✭This was not intended as per the last ESO live. But since they didn't fix it for launch, the easiest solution would be to just give any characters made before Morrowind an extra skill point.1