Nightblade - Assassin's Blade: Increase Damage done while in stealth?

Avran_Sylt · May 2017

@SilverWF

It would hopefully incentivise against/prevent the HA opener + skill that is even more powerful than just the 200%, since if you heavy attack the enemy first, it no longer counts as from stealth.

ookami007 · May 2017

Sounds Interesting

They need to give nightblades SOMETHING for stealing away one of the nightblades class defining attributes (attacking from stealth).

Of course they won't... because nightblades aren't the chosen class - which was sorcerers (and still is to some degree) but is now Wardens (cue trumpets from heaven).

GreenSoup2HoT · May 2017

Sounds Interesting

@Avran_Sylt To be quite honest, giving my idea suggested to the base morph of assassins blade would be unfair. Stamina has to get up close and personal while a magicka nightblade has shields and can range the boss. Risk reward. Stamina nightblades are the worst dps in game, this would change their value. In my opinion magicka nightblade is in a pretty good spot after the assassins will changes. Not everything needs to go both magicka and stamina.

Avran_Sylt · May 2017

@GreenSoup2HoT

Fair enough of a point.

Juhasow · May 2017

Leave it the Way it is

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@Juhasow

I'm thinking the problem with NB's is that their ganking potential from ranged distance over-performs their ganking potential from melee distance. Also because the best ganking setup is totally separated from the NB class.

Snipe + Crit Rsuh (with vMA 2H) + Loading Heavy during Crit Rush + Proc Sets All hitting at once or nearly at once, from 22m away, NB not even required. Then you could follow up with : LA+ Berserker Strike while they're stunned and down. Nothing about that requires a NB skill. Only thing that NB's really bring to the table is Incap Strike, a cheaper version of Berseker strike that deals less damage initially, but stuns and grants extra damage.

You really should see builds with 2h ulti. Only Nb can do things like this with it. Yes it's not nb skills but 10% critical dmg , 9% more wep dmg , minor berserk , auto crit those are all things that nb brings to the table. None other class is close to dmg that nb pull with that ulti not mentioning only nb can sneak close to enemie without risk of beeing revealed (cloak is immmune to base detection range , hide isnt)

Dracindo · May 2017

Sounds Interesting

Rikkof wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Give it something like: This ability deals 300% more damage to targets at or under 25% health, or when used from stealth (Not cloak)

Edit: Also, looking more at the damage numbers on the tooltip, damage from stealth only being increased by 200% seems less overpowered, and brings it in line to almost the same damage as uppercut/snipe base damage.

Where is they NO option in youir poll?
biased much?
sorry never gonna happen

What do you think should happen to improve Nightblades? Because right now, playing a Nightblade feels like playing a Sorcerer with no damage shields and no pets.

Avran_Sylt · May 2017

@Juhasow

I've made on of those 2H ulti builds. Clever Alchemist, Viper's, Velidreth, Poison Enchant, Nirnhorned 2H. It's bloody *** OP, prior to the stealth nerfs I was was hitting 17K with that from stealth. I freaking hate that ability since it and the 2H class are essentially all the good shite of the NB crammed into one weapon class.

High Damage single target instant ultimate (Incap), but it also grants you added protections (inverse of incap) and ignores resistances.
Single Target Gap Closer that deals Crit damage (Ambush+cloakcrit) but also increases damage based on distance
High damage single target ability (uppercut) = Surprise attack, but' it also grants empower (wrecking blow) or stuns+knockback (dizzy)
Snare removal + immunity from momentum (Med armor skill) + Heal per 2 sec (terrible siphoning attacks) + Brutality
Execute ability (reverse slash) = Assassin's Blade

It literally takes the assassin (burst + some escape) role and slots it into a single weapon class while giving it some resource sustain on kills with paltry sustain via momentum and the shield from brawler.

Edit: In a pvp sense of course. only thing that NB's really shine with is the added escape.

Hurika · May 2017

Assasin's blade does undefendable damage. Still scales off health. Allows a NB to kill a target that gets to 10% health and goes into perma block or perma shield spam mode. Won't impact targets above 25% health that much since the base damage is much lower. It's a finisher.... allow it to actually finish something.

Mark Target grants the crit bonus from stealth that was removed as part of morrowind. Still allows a gank but the target has an idea it may be coming.

Add a poison dot that increases in damage as long as the Nb is within 10m of it's target.

Just random thoughts.

Avran_Sylt · May 2017

@Hurika

Assassin's Blade ignoring Physical/Spell Resistance. That actually is an interesting idea.

Danksta · May 2017

Leave it the Way it is

Odd that an execute ability would only do good damage with the target in execute range...