Free class respec every time you kill a class please.
Me and my wife both play Templars (PvE Duo only) and with all the ongoing class Nerfs and now class killing Nerfs, we don't want to play that class anymore. When you have major content creators leaving the game due to the death of a class you would think to not make it worse for just us casuals but you did, so let us change our class.
Stop killing PvE classes due to PvP troll builds, hell you didn't even give us a skill reset.
Stop killing PvE classes due to PvP troll builds, hell you didn't even give us a skill reset.
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You might want to read up on some of the guides and builds already posted.
Whilst changes were made no classes were killed.
Try AlcastHQ hr has Morrowind ones up already.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."4 -
Saint_Bud✭✭✭✭No reall nearfs for open world pvePVP Saint-Bud magicka Templar: AR 49
PVE Lord Victarion mDK : dro'm-Athra-Destroyer pre Morrowind retired for crafting
PVE Ramsay-Bolton magicka NB: Voice of Reason Clockwork City Patch retired
VAA hm/ VHRC hm/ VSO hm/ VMOL hm/ VHOF hm/ VAS hm clear
Stop playing PVE because its boring, content not disigned for melee players and class balance and sustain is ***2 -
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✭✭✭it takes one day to level a new character and only takes 1 gold to respec your skill points.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA6 -
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mocap✭✭✭✭✭
✭it takes one day to level a new character
and forever to level several skill lines, quests (Silver/Gold), books, dungeons, delves, dolmens etc.
I actually can't kill a bear world boss (west of Glenumbra) with my old-new Mag Templar. Run out of Magika, then run out of health. Have no pets, no sustain. I don't know what to do (
Templar is dead.Edited by mocap on May 22, 2017 5:02PM2 -
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Darlon✭✭✭✭✭it takes one day to level a new character
and forever to level several skill lines, quests (Silver/Gold), books, dungeons, delves, dolmens etc.
I actually can't kill a bear world boss (west of Glenumbra) with my old-new Mag Templar. Run out of Magika, then run out of health. Have no pets, no sustain. I don't know what to do (
Templar is dead.
Can't expect to run in with your old build and be successful after changes like this... you have to adapt...
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You might want to read up on some of the guides and builds already posted.
Whilst changes were made no classes were killed.
Try AlcastHQ hr has Morrowind ones up already.
So they killed (Nerfed to death) the Stam tank and now the Health tank builds for Templar, so what a new crafter build?0 -
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✭✭winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »
None of these make open world any hard. It is still very easy to do on every class. Templar is not dead it got some nerfs but it's more alive than magdk was for 2 years. Even with the changes templar is bis for healing and they didn't get nerfed in dps regards where they are fine2 -
mocap✭✭✭✭✭
✭Can't expect to run in with your old build and be successful after changes like this... you have to adapt...
How about Sorcs? Do they need to adapt? Or just throw Scamp, Liquid, Surge and run around like headless chicken spamin light/heavy? Oh, and there is dark deal - one button sustain.2 -
Bakkagami✭✭✭lol. adapt to changes. Or level a new class and adapt to those changes... if you're struggling with the changes in open world it's a good sign you need to take the time to rethink your strategy.3 -
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✭✭I am not going to say it wasn't a big nerf to templars.. but you can deal with it...
and I expect them to just keep recieving buffs in subsquent patches until they are in a better place.1 -
lol. adapt to changes. Or level a new class and adapt to those changes... if you're struggling with the changes in open world it's a good sign you need to take the time to rethink your strategy.
If I sold you a sports car and then changed it to a minivan would you want to "adapt to changes" or would you want a chance to choose a sports car again?
What would be the harm in giving a class reset ?
Why is everyone so against it?
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✭✭✭✭While I don't think any classes were murdered, I agree we need a class change option. There is absolutely no reason not to offer it. The player wins, ZOS wins.Edited by Solariken on May 22, 2017 5:16PM1 -
mocap✭✭✭✭✭
✭so it seems i need:
- always slot Aura
- become a vampire
- reglyph all jewelry to magika regen
- and even take an Atronach second star for TBS
will cost me DPS ofcuz. And DPS for mag plar meaning survival, cuz more DPS more self heal. Great!
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✭✭✭...you can light attack most everything in the open world to death. Now moreso than before since they buffed light attacks
Adapt and survive. I may not be a fan of the changes and I'm definitely no fan of the bugs but "killed the class"? That's silly.
One thing we REALLY don't need is class change, let alone a free one. People will change every time they feel they were unjustfully nerfed, then find out they don't like what they changed to or see their old class get buffed and demand free change back, then a free change to whichever class becomes strongest after that...so it seems i need:
- always slot Aura
- become a vampire
- reglyph all jewelry to magika regen
- and even take an Atronach second star for TBS
will cost me DPS ofcuz. And DPS for mag plar meaning survival, cuz more DPS more self heal. Great!
It took me 5 seconds of googling to see Alcast's build that's doing none of the things you listed, yet I'm willing to bet it performs more than solidly(let alone in open world PvE). Why the panic?Edited by Magdalina on May 22, 2017 7:22PM1 -
Everyone would benefit from a class respec no matter how many times they do it. People already change every time they feel nerfed, its called another character/slot. You just stop playing that class (a waste) and play another or worse yet re roll.
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t3hdubzy✭✭✭✭Not sure the class is dead but playstyles are certainly dead. Class change would be super helpful because theres charchters i created with certain builds in mind, and since they arent viable anymore, id class change them in a heartbeat.1 -
Everyone says just re roll, it only takes 1 day to max lvl.............
Its not the lvl its all the other things that you have invested months or years plus millions of gold to get. Why should all of us PvE players feel that all we invested into the game/character is now crap due to PvP troll builds?Edited by winterbornb14_ESO on May 22, 2017 9:09PM0 -
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pattyLtd✭✭✭✭✭If OP feels the class is killed for him and his wife because they dont consider it fun to play the class anymore then it might be indeed killed for the way he wants to play.
Being able to kill everything with light attacks and other things is kinda irrelevant then, just sayimg.English is not my native language, no grammar police please, tyvm1 -
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Templars are really good for exactly the type of play you describe
Go to the respec shrine and you will have really cheap respecs right now
Make sure you reallocated your CP, it was resetEdited by Ghost-Shot on May 22, 2017 9:31PM0 -
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✭✭winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »lol. adapt to changes. Or level a new class and adapt to those changes... if you're struggling with the changes in open world it's a good sign you need to take the time to rethink your strategy.
If I sold you a sports car and then changed it to a minivan would you want to "adapt to changes" or would you want a chance to choose a sports car again?
What would be the harm in giving a class reset ?
Why is everyone so against it?
Are you familiar with a red herring?0 -
Invincible✭✭✭✭✭They're trying to be more like Warcraft. Sorcs are frost mages and Templars are ret pallies.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »Me and my wife both play Templars (PvE Duo only) and with all the ongoing class Nerfs and now class killing Nerfs, we don't want to play that class anymore. When you have major content creators leaving the game due to the death of a class you would think to not make it worse for just us casuals but you did, so let us change our class.
Stop killing PvE classes due to PvP troll builds, hell you didn't even give us a skill reset.
I assume you have allocated your reset champion points? Reset your skills for 1g? Reviewed your gear and consumables? Tried different approaches? In how long since the the servers came back up exactly?1 -
ofSunhold✭✭✭✭✭Kind of shocking, isn't it. You sound like I felt when I started testing this stuff on the PTS. (Much !!!!!!)
I don't know from stamplars - the only stamplar I know personally quit the game a couple of weeks ago - but if you're magplars, you're going to be ok. Really. Might take a couple of weeks to adjust to the sheer volume of wtf in this update, but you've been templars a long time and you'll get a new rhythm pretty quickly. Hopefully the fun will also return with your survivability.
Re: class change token, I'll be surprised if they ever do that. The game is very well set for alt creation, and I think they WANT long-term players re-doing content. Doing it all once as a templar and then again as a sorc isn't quite twice the content, but maybe x 1.5? And it's time consuming, which is the point of a lot of things in MMOs.
Having more than one class at max isn't bad advice. I've been easing my pain by playing my magblade instead of my templar, and just the shift in perspective helps a lot with the shock of the changes.
But the templar isn't dead. [Snip] that. We will not go quietly into that good night, etc.Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.0 -
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✭✭✭✭winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »Me and my wife both play Templars (PvE Duo only) and with all the ongoing class Nerfs and now class killing Nerfs, we don't want to play that class anymore. When you have major content creators leaving the game due to the death of a class you would think to not make it worse for just us casuals but you did, so let us change our class.
Stop killing PvE classes due to PvP troll builds, hell you didn't even give us a skill reset.
Skill reset is super cheap till next incremental (probably next week)
1 gold per skill point instead of 50. I'll be respeccing all my characters.1 -
Sweetpea704✭✭✭✭winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »You might want to read up on some of the guides and builds already posted.
Whilst changes were made no classes were killed.
Try AlcastHQ hr has Morrowind ones up already.
So they killed (Nerfed to death) the Stam tank and now the Health tank builds for Templar, so what a new crafter build?
This is total BS. I took my Stam Tank into Vet Dungeons in PTS and it was fine.
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