Rng is just the sawdust filler in the *** sandwich that is mmo game play.

I'm fine with a certain amount of RNG. What needs to change is one of two (or both) things:

1) Restructure the loot tables so that we don't have to spend 30 minutes+ just to have a 1 out of 300+ (probably worse if there are named items in the loot table) chance at the single item we are looking for.

2) Rebalance the traits, especially for weapons, so that they are more competitive with each other. Having a 4 out 300+ shot to find a useful weapon is much better than a 1 out 300 shot.

Well, it wouldn't be so bad if other traits were actually useful.

Sure there will always be BiS but the fact we only have one trait in PvE people even bother with... kind of makes the issues worse.

The RNG is complete bs and the main reason I don't play much anymore, just add some vendors, Overland and Dungeon and Trials. Drop tokens instead of garbage in those places and let us choose the bloody item we want from the vendors already.

TheStealthDude wrote: »

The sharpened trait needs to be nerfed. Should be a % based off of targets resistance. This would make it less effective against lighter armors/lower resistant mobs, making other traits more competitive in general.

Nah, we don't want to nerf anything. What I propose is making any and all dropped weapons have a basic weapon damage according to 1h, 2h, or bow. From there, let US decide what trait it should have and tie it into the crafting system.I.E....

You find a 1h sword from the set you want. It has 500 weapon damage on it. Now you bring it to a crafter or craft your own weapon trait enchantment. When we make a "crafted" set item, we already do this. Why not have it avaliable for dropped weapons too? Someone smarter than me can work out BoP items, or maybe just leave them as is? Because they come from Dungeons and Trials where you can already trade between groupmates for traits you want.

It could be some gem or item off a node (like nirncrux), or dropped misc. thing off trash mobs with some degree of rarity. You may need multiples of this item to craft it into an enhancement for you weapon.But by no means should these items come from Dungeons and trials for enhancements to overland stuff. That would make me punch cute furry things. (as mentioned, I'm a PvP'er at heart. Less PvE the better for me)

Dreyloch wrote: »

I have been looking for one particular sharpened weapon from an undisclosed location. This is an overland set.

I have spent 3-4+ hours a night over the last week zooming around the zone on a treasure chest hunt. I have used up over 2 Million AP trying to get it from Cyrodiil bag vendor (at 5k ap a bag so do the math). I have spent many more hours destroying all that moves in the public dungeon looting every...single...mob because sometimes they will drop set items.

Look ZoS. This system is abysmal. I mainly PvP and it shouldn't be this overly, stupidly, rediculously hard to obtain the right weapon with the right trait. I don't want to continue buying crappy bags containing crappy blue items that I just vendor for "pennys on the gold piece" because it's all garbage. I am bored out of my skull killing mobs in PvE public dungeon. I don't want to continue doing this.

Please for the sanity of us all, you need to change this loot system. I actually gag when I see Training, charged, or infused on weapons. Let's cut out the stupid, and just make any and all weapons have the same basic damage modifier no matter what it is. (basically making everything sharpened). Let us add or change the weapon traits. Make that a crafting hardship. Make that the semi rare but a way more obtainable factor in the equation. I am a patient guy. I don't expect this to be handed to me. I am willing to give it some effort in farming. But this is getting beyond that. I'm sorry, I refuse to pay someone 100's of K gold to buy it because they got lucky. It shouldn't require luck to get what you want in this game, and that's all it seems to be.

You wouldn't by chance be on PS4 NA would you?

Can't you see the growing cynical way they force people to stay more in the game, pay more money, soon we will have to pay crowns for every step our characters have taken inside the game, because we tread on their holy ground of tamriel, and because we breathe their sacred pixel air. It's a growing trait in the entire gaming industry, but Bethesda and Zenimax are some of those at the front of cynical moneymachines called games, its becoming unbearable. My issue right now is that I just bought a 100$ game which I can't play the way I want because I have 10 characters, so I'm being punished because I have played the game alot, and I have to spend 1000 crowns if I want to continue make the game a better place, I send feedback, I give tips, I help the ingame community by becoming a ingame expert and I keep the ingame economy rolling by playing, filling up groups in dungeons, and I give a sense of a living universe by playing, because of this I must pay 1000 crowns to make a new character to enjoy the game, that I already paid for, and now that morrowind is out I can't make a warden because the 4 new slots must be bought separately, and the crown store is down. So I'm sitting here raging and unable to play the new class which was all I wanted, and sucking my thumb instead because I can't purchase even more crowns and throw even more money because I spent 100 + days in the game and thrown thousands of dollars on the game already, they just launch a 30hour 1 zone content with a few changes for 100$ without giving any character slots to actually play the warden with, not even ONE F**** slot, which would have been enough to not go complete mental rage because of the outrage it is to have to pay 1000 crowns per slot....its not real life gold its a virtual pixel space in order to give life to your game you idiots! enforce people who want to try more gamestyles with new characters, dont demotivate and punish them with your cynical money hoarding.

Rant complete.

Balamoor wrote: »

I remember camping for days literally for one spawn to pop......people are stupidly spoiled these days. None of the rng in this game is that punishing.

Overland rng is fine, but when it comes to things like vma, oh boy...

Balamoor wrote: »

I remember camping for days literally for one spawn to pop......people are stupidly spoiled these days. None of the rng in this game is that punishing.

Just because "it used to be" doesn't make it better or more fun. I wish people would drop this fallacy.

I have run about 200 VMA runs in the past 2 -3 Months and i have yet to receive a Sharpened BOW or Staff , The RNG in this game is designed to Punish the players completing hard content , after all the effort u put into VMA ,i am always scared to open the chest to see a decisive Dagger or a Charged Bow or a powered axe.

It's 2017. A dynamic RNG system or some other system to offset the variances of bad RNG are completely within their capacity. They simply choose not to implement them.

I always craft weapons so I don't have to play the rng game. Did it once and it was miserable I nearly quit the game.