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Devs: Please give us the 5-piece set bonus if we're using 2H + 3 other set pieces
Fair and balanced. An elegant solution to the 2H should count as a 2-piece debate.
It should work as follows:
2H alone = no bonus
2H + 1 other set piece = 2-piece bonus
2H + 2 other set pieces = 3-piece bonus
2H + 3 other set pieces = 4 and 5-piece bonus
If that's somehow considered over-powered, give us this instead:
2H alone = no bonus
2H + 1 other set piece = 2-piece bonus
2H + 2 other set pieces = 3-piece bonus
2H + 3 other set pieces = 5-piece bonus (no 4-piece bonus)
It should work as follows:
2H alone = no bonus
2H + 1 other set piece = 2-piece bonus
2H + 2 other set pieces = 3-piece bonus
2H + 3 other set pieces = 4 and 5-piece bonus
If that's somehow considered over-powered, give us this instead:
2H alone = no bonus
2H + 1 other set piece = 2-piece bonus
2H + 2 other set pieces = 3-piece bonus
2H + 3 other set pieces = 5-piece bonus (no 4-piece bonus)
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Westo77✭✭This debate has been going on for years, Yes it would be fantastic, but I wouldn't expect to see it anytime soon2 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If anything they should add 4 piece sets in the game to settle this stinking debate once and for all
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Tipsy247✭✭✭I think 2H alone should count as two pieces, personally. Let us choose our weapon based on the weapon skill line we want to use and not because we can get an extra bonus with dual wield18 -
IcyDeadPeople✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭That's part of the trade off, you are sacrificing staff or 2H abilities in order to be able to combine an extra set piece. Makes the choice a bit more interesting. The reduction in dual wield damage made the spell damage even with staff, so you would only be using this for the set piece. Maybe next year they will add one hand and rune weapon option.2 -
OrphanHelgen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭To mention more possible solutions: create other unique sets to suit the combination of 2H.
So far, dual wield gives you two enchants instead of one as well.
We have sets where 2 piece, 3 piece and 5 piece give powerspike. That is good, but can be even more creative.
We could have 7 piece with huge bonus for example. Or even 8 with 2 hand sword or staff. Other solutions could also be to make enchants stronger on a 2 hander.
They already made a great solutions for staffs, where fire and shock staffs gives you 8% more dmg in their passives. That's what saved magicka in homestead patch imh.PC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact
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davey1107✭✭✭✭✭
✭They should make a magic set with a 12 piece bonus just to watch heads explode.Edited by davey1107 on April 22, 2017 4:54PM5 -
Wasn't there a hint in the recent Live that devs were thinking about doing something regarding 2-handers and set items? *hope*
isn't there a unified player stance on that?0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nah not having a extra slot is part of the trade off.
Destro/ 2's are already much prefered in pvp, imagine if they counted as 2 pieces.
No one would use dw anymore.PS4 EU DC
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Duragon_Darko✭✭✭No.
No change needed. It's part of the strategy. You have a choice at what to wear, what not to wear and how to gear up/skill up..... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.5 -
STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »If anything they should add 4 piece sets in the game to settle this stinking debate once and for all
YES!!!!
i have been advocating to aloow crafters when they craft sets to drop one or two of the 2-3-4pc bonuses creating a body/wpn 3 or 4pc set. This would give crafters the unique ability to make a 3-4pc body/wpn set and help with this gripe. It would let them look at some of the underperforming sets and drop off one of the "off-kilter" bonuses. it would let a lot of crafted sets gain some variety etc.
A big IMo plus for crafted which need some help now IMO and good for the game.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Hridhbjarn wrote: »Wasn't there a hint in the recent Live that devs were thinking about doing something regarding 2-handers and set items? *hope*
isn't there a unified player stance on that?
unified, nope.
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whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hello DEV's...
If you do decide to give 2 Handed weapons the ability to count as 2 PC's then Dual Wield will need to be Buffed.
Thank You...Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3600 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. All Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.4 -
Kali_Despoine✭✭✭✭
Also staves are not used as two handed weapons in this game. You just hold them You do mot swing them around like some spear or halberd.
Now give me sweeps like the Templar alti and you will have a 2 handed weapon.0 -
D0ntevenL1ft✭✭✭✭✭This game has been just fine for years without 2h weapons counting for 2 set pieces; this request is all from new players who want everything handed to them.
One item = one set piece; it's been the trade off for not going duel weird or 1h/s why should it change?2 -
Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭Can anybody name a game that has a two handed sword count as two items? Anybody?
Nope.
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Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Can anybody name a game that has a two handed sword count as two items? Anybody?
Nope.
Of course, other games manage the whole "set" thing differently. There's a lot more sets & a lot more capability of equipping/mixing sets in ESO.
(not that I agree with the "2h = 2 pieces" thing)1 -
lillybit✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'd settle for an option for magic users to have their own dw skill. With the coming sustain issues, swords are going to be harder to manage.
Stam characters do indeed have the choice of trading away the extra set bonus for 2h; magicka doesn't have quite the same option.
It's rubbish that my magplar has to run around with swords that do nothing but boost stats. If it has to work like that it would be good if they'd add something to enable us to use just our hand (an enchanted bracelet maybe? Something that can carry a trait and be enchanted) So we don't have to drag ugly, pointless swords around.
Plus, really want to dw inferno bracelets!
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STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »Hello DEV's...
If you do decide to give 2 Handed weapons the ability to count as 2 PC's then Dual Wield will need to be Buffed.
Thank You...
no love for sword and shield?Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭I'd settle for an option for magic users to have their own dw skill. With the coming sustain issues, swords are going to be harder to manage.
Stam characters do indeed have the choice of trading away the extra set bonus for 2h; magicka doesn't have quite the same option.
It's rubbish that my magplar has to run around with swords that do nothing but boost stats. If it has to work like that it would be good if they'd add something to enable us to use just our hand (an enchanted bracelet maybe? Something that can carry a trait and be enchanted) So we don't have to drag ugly, pointless swords around.
Plus, really want to dw inferno bracelets!
If you're rolling with DW, why aren't you weaving light attacks in and out of sweeps?
You can put spell damage enchants, fire damage enchants, or whatever. The only reason you think swords aren't useful is because you're not using them! Lol start hitting your target with some light attacks. The extra damage definitely does add up.Edited by Eshelmen on May 21, 2017 8:17PMPC and PS4 EP only player0 -
whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »Hello DEV's...
If you do decide to give 2 Handed weapons the ability to count as 2 PC's then Dual Wield will need to be Buffed.
Thank You...
no love for sword and shield?
Sorry about that, yes Sword and Board should be buffed as well, giving you an Insightful since this one missed it..
BTW love your ideas in your sig... Edited by whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO on May 21, 2017 8:26PMSigned, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3600 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. All Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.0 -
lillybit✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'd settle for an option for magic users to have their own dw skill. With the coming sustain issues, swords are going to be harder to manage.
Stam characters do indeed have the choice of trading away the extra set bonus for 2h; magicka doesn't have quite the same option.
It's rubbish that my magplar has to run around with swords that do nothing but boost stats. If it has to work like that it would be good if they'd add something to enable us to use just our hand (an enchanted bracelet maybe? Something that can carry a trait and be enchanted) So we don't have to drag ugly, pointless swords around.
Plus, really want to dw inferno bracelets!
If you're rolling with DW, why aren't you weaving light attacks in and out of sweeps?
You can put spell damage enchants, fire damage enchants, or whatever. The only reason you think swords aren't useful is because you're not using them! Lol start hitting your target with some light attacks. The extra damage definitely does add up.
I said they're only useful for adding to the stats. That's kind of what I meant.
What I was trying to get at was to dw I have to use a weapon selection that blocks me from actually using any of the skills associated with it. I can't even use it to get back resources. It's a whole skill line that's useless apart from a passive.
Stam users don't have to make the same sacrifice for the extra set bonus, it'd be nice to have the same optionPS4 EU0 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Nah not having a extra slot is part of the trade off.
Destro/ 2's are already much prefered in pvp, imagine if they counted as 2 pieces.
No one would use dw anymore.
yeah because the most popular weaponline in the game since release is not 1h+shield which ironically offers two set slots...
If dw was really lacking behind (it isn´t and would still see use) it could be adjusted to match the other weaponlines.<Noricum>
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smokey13a✭✭✭I'm just going to copy/paste my response from this thread https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4130154#Comment_4130154I'm going to say this probably wouldn't work. 2 handed weapons don't get the second piece bonus because its only 1 piece which is why they have over 200 extra spell/weapon damage and traits like sharpened are twice as strong so the only way this would work would be if zos reduced the spell/weapon damage and trait potency for all 2 handed weapons so they were the same as a 1 handed weapon, in addition the second piece (quiver/tassels..ect) would have to count as an armour piece like one hand and shield and not a weapon piece like dual wield.
also giving an extra piece bonus to mag sorcs and DK's would increase their dps even more which would make the game even more un-balanced.Edited by smokey13a on May 21, 2017 9:17PM1
