about the same as the other DLC.


And it should be free for ESO+.

(No. I have never subed, nor do I have any plans on doing it. But I feel like renaming a DLC something else and change the ESO+ pollicy just to make a few extra bucks is a really bad way to treat customers.)

I'll pay $40 if an expansion is big . Multiple Dungeoms , a good solid 50+ added quests and "Game Improvements" are made . I quoted that because for me that's just as important as any content in an expansion if not more important . Of course , what is a game improvement is pretty vague term and subjective . I didn't find the majority of changes in testing to be actual improvements as they were actually mostly progress hindering balance changes to address power creep . A scrap to the CP system from battlefield PVP with no compensation for time and work invested in the old system .

So for me , paying for expansion that breaks up past achievements is rediculous and it didn't hit the mark for me in actual size and content to be an expansion . Some will say they added a new class . To me that's a big whoop , I don't actually want the class and also don't like specific classes behind paywalls . Content behind paywalls is fine , not classes .

They decided to put the battlefields behind the paywall too . That always splits up a PVP community . So you end up with less participants . That should just be added as continual support towards PVP that has suffered since launch . A payback to everyone that watched servers get smaller and smaller because they couldn't get their server performance to match up with what they advertised . Ya , I think subscribed PVP players since launch were owed those as compensation . Many nights were lost to Cyrodiil just being unplayable .

But ya $40 is fine for a good system and a sizable expansion .

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Just this it's a damn DLC we all know it you can't defend that

Sure they can. Here are some arguments put forth by apologists:

"This is not a DLC, this is a chapter"

"ESO can't be compared to other MMOs' prices"

"Morrowind is priced just like other MMO's expansions"

"Crybabies want everything for free"

"Morrowind is bigger than any other DLCs and therefore worthy of not being in the crown store"

"The definition of a DLC and expansion is not a fixed one"

"Still cheaper than other entertainment alternatives"

"ZOS is a business and is obligated to make as much money as possible"

"ZOS is allowed to change their business model whenever they like"

$30, because $40 suggests it's comparable to standard MMO expansions.

Your poll is horribly constructed, though that is partially the forum's fault for not allowing multiple choices (if it's free for subs, it still has a price for non-subs, so everyone choosing this option should vote twice).

Mmorpg recently reviewed it, to quote them

- Not enough content to justify being called an expansion. Morrowind is an overpriced DLC - $40 when normally this sort of thing should cost $20

$40 seems about right for the standard version I guess?

Collectors editions are over priced but that's never been anything new for anything ever.

Its going to be much larger than Orsinium, and considering the size and new content, id say around $30 or $35 at least. It is supposed to be a full blown expansion to the main Story Quest.

I only want the Warden, so this price range is still too expensive, but for most people who'd enjoy all (or most) of Morrowind's content, this seems about right.

How would anyone know before playing it? Besides more content = more revenues = more content ...?! So that spirale is a good thing

Assuming that Vvardenfell is 25%-30% bigger than Wrothgar, I kind of view it this way if it was sold on the Crown Store:

Vvardenfell - 2,500 Crowns (free for ESO+ members)
Warden Class - 3,000 Crowns
Battlegrounds - 2,000 Crowns

If they had instead broken it apart and gave Vvardenfell to subs and charged separately for the Warden Class and Battlegrounds you would still be looking at 5,000 plus crowns (or about $40 worth). That doesn't include the 3,000-9,000 Crowns worth of pre-order goodies included in the various packages. So versus probable Crown Store pricing, $40 is probably fair.

That being said, you then have to look at what is included versus other expansions put out by other companies and that is where it may fall short for the price. While it may have a new class and 30 hours of new content, that is very light for $40 expansion. LOTRO's Mines of Moria was about $40 and took months to play through all the new content. It had five new zones, two classes, a new system added to the game (legendary weapons) and much more. Morrowind seems more on par with SWTOR's Rise of the Hutt Cartel and that was $20.

Time will tell but my only concern is if the price versus value is too far off for many, ZOS may find they have shot themselves in the foot like GW2 did with Heart of Thorns. It has leaked that a second expansion is underway for GW2, with a sizable amount of content, and yet it has been met with apathy because so many feel so burned by the rip-off that was Heart of Thorns. Hopefully the same will not happen with Morrowind.

notimetocare wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Just this it's a damn DLC we all know it you can't defend that

No it is not. No DLC has included a new class

Up until Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood, no DLC had included new skill lines either.

Dracindo wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Just this it's a damn DLC we all know it you can't defend that

No it is not. No DLC has included a new class

Up until Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood, no DLC had included new skill lines either.

I didn't even think of this. Totaly agree btw.

If you buy the digital upgrade for $40, I think its fine. I'm including the pre-order bonuses in this price. If you're paying that much later then you have been ripped off. But the pre-order price is about right. Battlegrounds and warden should be base game updates and open to everyone who bought the game originally. Emails should have been sent to folks who have left the game to come back and enjoy the new warden and new battle grounds. Plus, they may have never known what the game was like once it was working pretty well.