Gearing a healer.

Lavennin · May 2017

I play a magblade and would love to heal for group content in the near future, but have been wondering about the choice of set. The problem is that my vampire lives for fashion and finds end game sets like SPC visually unpleasing - it's just not his style!

So I wonder, how practical is a crafted set?

1) As a NB healer with crafted gear, what's the highest level of content I can attempt? Are all vet dungeons doable?

2) Should I settle with Julianos or prioritize my research to get Kagrenac? I guess the question is, if my dedication to fashion (and NB) prevents me from doing anything but the the easier dungeons, then is there still a point to go Kagrenac?

Thanks

akl77 · May 2017

I just use costumes, plenty of nice costumes in crown store, including vampire suit.

Templar heal will have no difference to nb heal in morrowind, so you might as well put it in vet dungeons to practice your healing skills.
If you really like k hope set, just ask in chat, plenty of people happy to craft for you for a little tip.
I personally use julianos with spc sets and skoria monster sets, more of a dps set up, but I focused on magicka regen, so heal as effective.

Lavennin · May 2017

akl77 wrote: »

I just use costumes, plenty of nice costumes in crown store, including vampire suit.
Templar heal will have no difference to nb heal in morrowind, so you might as well put it in vet dungeons to practice your healing skills.
If you really like k hope set, just ask in chat, plenty of people happy to craft for you for a little tip.
I personally use julianos with spc sets and skoria monster sets, more of a dps set up, but I focused on magicka regen, so heal as effective.

Thanks for the reply! I love some of the costumes, but wish I could mix and match individual pieces. The wedding one looks good on a vampire, but I'm not sure it would go well with a staff...and a lot of vampires wear it.

I actually found some perfect visual combinations of crafted gear, and they just look way better in my eyes. There's no hope in me.

I'll probably try mixing Julianos with dropped pieces too.

Flameheart · May 2017

If you don't want to wear the healer standard and best-in-slot-sets like Spell Power Cure (WGT), Worm (VoM), Aether (Trials) and nowadays Mending for Morrowind already (Trials), the good old Kagrenac is always a great choice. For the second set either fill up with any other magicka set (Seducer, Julianos etc.) of your choice and just decide if you wanne wear 2 5-pieces-sets or just 1, a monster helm set and some fillers.

Just to mention it as an advice, If you wanne do some serious raiding onedays, people expect sets like Worm and SPC etc. there. Look is irrelvant there, just effectivity counts and the 5-set-bonuses are still too good to not use them.

I don't like the shabby look of Worm too, but the stats are actually exactly the ones you want as a healer and on the other hand the Xivkyn look of SPC is quite ok for me, so you might use that for your armor slots (although it's more difficult to farm).

Lavennin · May 2017

Flameheart wrote: »

If you don't want to wear the healer standard and best-in-slot-sets like Spell Power Cure (WGT), Worm (VoM), Aether (Trials) and nowadays Mending for Morrowind already (Trials), the good old Kagrenac is always a great choice. For the second set either fill up with any other magicka set (Seducer, Julianos etc.) of your choice and just decide if you wanne wear 2 5-pieces-sets or just 1, a monster helm set and some fillers.

Just to mention it as an advice, If you wanne do some serious raiding onedays, people expect sets like Worm and SPC etc. there. Look is irrelvant there, just effectivity counts and the 5-set-bonus are still too good to not use them.

I don't like the shabby look of Worm too, but the stats are actually exactly the ones you want as a healer and on the other hand the Xivkyn look of SPC is quite ok, so you might use that for your armor Slots (although it's more difficult to farm).

Thank you. So what is considered serious raiding? I'm feeling pretty "casual" with ESO, so likely won't go for competitive content. Does serious raiding mean vet trials or all trials?

KochDerDamonen · May 2017

You can do all vet dungeons with crafted Julianos or Seducer's (or even Kagrenac's,

Kag's). Just try and pick up a jewelry set that compliments it. Something with more recovery if you go julianos, or higher stats if seducer. Eyes of Mara is also a choice but it only works for resto staff spells.

Do what I did: Get SPC jewelry, a weapon and a pair of gloves or belt or something. The jewelry might be easier to get than correctly traited armor at this point, haha. If you don't want to farm vWGT you can always farm gold and buy key fragments to use on the treasure room. Fashion, and power :B

(and yes, I love Kagrenac's. It's a healer's best friend if you do random dungeon queues.)

Taleof2Cities · May 2017

I wear SPC jewelry, gloves, and belt on my dedicated healer ... which gives plenty of leeway to choose whatever you want for the other 5-piece set. Picture below.

You could even go jewelry, belt, and helm with the 'hide helmet' in the settings ... but then you have another issue with what to slot for weapons. Personally, I've got a 1-pc monster helm in the head slot for the moment.

I'm not going to say it's not a headache farming SPC with the right traits ... because that does take some time. But it looks nice in the end. Just food for thought here.

Shanjijri · May 2017

Before, I weared crafted gear. Julianos and Magnus. And I did vICP, vWGT, vROM and vDSA (I speak as a NB healer.)

It will more depend on your teammates and your own way to play.

I weared crafted because like you, I hate SPC style and refused to wear it... Until I find a costume I love. Farm SPC, or other BiS, just in case. I was kicked out vCOS once, because I did not have SPC.
But crafted gears work too.

Lavennin · May 2017

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

You can do all vet dungeons with crafted Julianos or Seducer's (or even Kagrenac's, Kag's). Just try and pick up a jewelry set that compliments it. Something with more recovery if you go julianos, or higher stats if seducer. Eyes of Mara is also a choice but it only works for resto staff spells.

Do what I did: Get SPC jewelry, a weapon and a pair of gloves or belt or something. The jewelry might be easier to get than correctly traited armor at this point, haha. If you don't want to farm vWGT you can always farm gold and buy key fragments to use on the treasure room. Fashion, and power :B

(and yes, I love Kagrenac's. It's a healer's best friend if you do random dungeon queues.)

Thanks! I didn't know you could get SPC jewelry. That sounds great!

Flameheart · May 2017

Lavennin wrote: »

Flameheart wrote: »

If you don't want to wear the healer standard and best-in-slot-sets like Spell Power Cure (WGT), Worm (VoM), Aether (Trials) and nowadays Mending for Morrowind already (Trials), the good old Kagrenac is always a great choice. For the second set either fill up with any other magicka set (Seducer, Julianos etc.) of your choice and just decide if you wanne wear 2 5-pieces-sets or just 1, a monster helm set and some fillers.

Just to mention it as an advice, If you wanne do some serious raiding onedays, people expect sets like Worm and SPC etc. there. Look is irrelvant there, just effectivity counts and the 5-set-bonus are still too good to not use them.

I don't like the shabby look of Worm too, but the stats are actually exactly the ones you want as a healer and on the other hand the Xivkyn look of SPC is quite ok, so you might use that for your armor Slots (although it's more difficult to farm).

Thank you. So what is considered serious raiding? I'm feeling pretty "casual" with ESO, so likely won't go for competitive content. Does serious raiding mean vet trials or all trials?

It means vet trials (normal trials are like pink ponyfarm in compare), but as just realized you want to play a NB healer. This might work for any 4-man-vet-content, but most likely you won't get a healer spot in a vet trial (normal should be possible) as a NB. Templars might just have still more options as a healer even after Morrowind goes live. Formerly templars were the first choice for raid healers because of their unique support abilities (spear shards), with Morrowind they will be the first choice because of healing. The new vet trial (Halls of Fabrication) will dish out a lot of severe damage on tanks and other players.

Sukenlihol · May 2017

Increase your healing ticks as possible as you can. Positioning and HoTs are fundamental for NB healing.

Dungeons, Normal Trials -> are OK.
Veterand Dungeons and HM - requires focusing.

If another healer is not Templar,

Veteran Trials -> can be hard for you
Veteran Trials HM -> ESO life is unfair.

KingYogi415 · May 2017

You should go stam and focus vigor.

You can clear most vet hard modes likes this.

Cheers!

Sinolai · May 2017

You can use jewelleries and 2 small pieces that wont affect your looks too much (eg. belt + golves/boots, hat if you hide it?) to have either worm or SPC with your Kagrenac.

Robbie529 · May 2017

Thanks for the great info. I have a Nord Stamplar that I want to change to a healer. Considering Morrowind; should I leave her as a Nord or race change to an Alter for optimal passives? Thanks

idk · May 2017

Dealing with craftable armor will start with rings wind etheyde not craftable.

I'd suggest Healer Habit or willpower jewelry. One has some regen and the other spell damage.

Crafted sets, Kags or julliano is fine and can finish out the gear with 3 of Mangus Giff.

And if that will work just fine for any 4 man dungeon and normal trials. For vet trials lost raid leaders will have a different take on the gear you should wear.

F7sus4 · May 2017

Not only you're NB but also refuse to go SPC? Yeah... and then we have all those "I was kicked from the group - the community is soooooo toxic" forum topics.

idk · May 2017

F7sus4 wrote: »

Not only you're NB but also refuse to go SPC? Yeah... and then we have all those "I was kicked from the group - the community is soooooo toxic" forum topics.

@F7sus4 if they cannot handle a 4 man dungeon without SPC then the issue isn't the healer.

Reality is all those threads complaining about other players in dungeons, the issue often isn't with the other players as much.

Lavennin · May 2017

F7sus4 wrote: »

Not only you're NB but also refuse to go SPC? Yeah... and then we have all those "I was kicked from the group - the community is soooooo toxic" forum topics.

@F7sus4 Huh? Didn't I ask, specifically, in plain English about the highest level of content I can attempt without a BiS setup? Does that not imply that I won't do anything I'm not built for?

Do I not have the freedom to wear what I like, provided I'm not going to be a dead weight to my group?

And did I post any of the topics you mentioned? Are you accusing me of things you just make up?

Lavennin · May 2017

Thank you all for the information and advice. I will wear Julianos with Magnus and try to get some SPC jewelries and smaller pieces (hopefully they will drop), then complete with Kags + SPC.

F7sus4 · May 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

Not only you're NB but also refuse to go SPC? Yeah... and then we have all those "I was kicked from the group - the community is soooooo toxic" forum topics.

@F7sus4 if they cannot handle a 4 man dungeon without SPC then the issue isn't the healer.

Reality is all those threads complaining about other players in dungeons, the issue often isn't with the other players as much.

It's never wrong to provide the best you can. Applies to all roles.

Lavennin · May 2017

F7sus4 wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

Not only you're NB but also refuse to go SPC? Yeah... and then we have all those "I was kicked from the group - the community is soooooo toxic" forum topics.

@F7sus4 if they cannot handle a 4 man dungeon without SPC then the issue isn't the healer.

Reality is all those threads complaining about other players in dungeons, the issue often isn't with the other players as much.

It's never wrong to provide the best you can. Applies to all roles.

So I suppose kicking a healer from a 4-man dungeon because she isn't wearing SPC & isn't a Templar is to be expected, because she must "provide the best she can".

Do you also kick non-DK tanks, stamblade DPS, etc.? Do you suggest all content be only attempted with the optimal setup?

It's never wrong to min-max, but min-maxing isn't the only viable thing in the world, my friend.

Eshja · May 2017

Hey. You can do all content as nb healer.
The hardest in my opinion was to heal vICP, you would really use BoL there. But I did all vtrials, including vMol (no HM yet), so you can absolutely follow the idea of healing with nightblade. But the other healer must to be templar, no more experiments in one party.

I geuss you could do everything in crafted sets, I was wearing SPC+Julianos+MSA staff (but if you can, get master resto, it's 'must-have'... nah, rng...) for some time and team had no problems if the other healer had worm.

I was using Kagrenac on pvp and my conclusion is - leave it to templars. Quick rezzing is their advantage, nb have some as well so try to find it. And previous bonuses aren't really useful - I mean there are better sets.
On pve there is no use in Kagrenac, you aren't suppose to rez there so get something better.

There is no meta for nb, so go do some experiments, play with builds. Wish you luck!

Lavennin · May 2017

Eshja wrote: »

Hey. You can do all content as nb healer.
The hardest in my opinion was to heal vICP, you would really use BoL there. But I did all vtrials, including vMol (no HM yet), so you can absolutely follow the idea of healing with nightblade. But the other healer must to be templar, no more experiments in one party.

I geuss you could do everything in crafted sets, I was wearing SPC+Julianos+MSA staff (but if you can, get master resto, it's 'must-have'... nah, rng...) for some time and team had no problems if the other healer had worm.

I was using Kagrenac on pvp and my conclusion is - leave it to templars. Quick rezzing is their advantage, nb have some as well so try to find it. And previous bonuses aren't really useful - I mean there are better sets.
On pve there is no use in Kagrenac, you aren't suppose to rez there so get something better.

There is no meta for nb, so go do some experiments, play with builds. Wish you luck!

Thank you! I didn't know there are NB vet trial healers. Wow.

I'll stick to Julianos then. It seems better DPS-wise and is easier to craft

akl77 · May 2017

Julianos crafting station is the most crowded stations in Tamriel at the moment.

Flameheart · May 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Julianos crafting station is the most crowded stations in Tamriel at the moment.

All the magplars needing a new set after BSW will get nerfed :-). If the BSW nerf goes live, it will most likely be the bis set imho. Back to the roots etc...

You don't want to use Kagrenac for the rez bonus btw, it provides 3 useful bonuses (yes, health is one too for a healer, because before all other tasks the priority is surviving) and spell damage. Matter of taste and a matter of the question if you wanne play your healer as a DD here and there too. In the later case Julianos is handy, yes, just because it will most likely be bis.