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Flurry OR Bloodthirst Vs Surprise attack?

Azyle1
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Having a conversation with people about what is better.

I say Bloodthirst/Flurry ( Actually even Bloodthirst is better ). The DPS on a dummy shows Surprise attack is more BUT if you account for it providing major fracture... it's still only like ~800 more. Now, if you have major fracture on an enemy and use Bloodthirst, it's higher then Surprise attack, by about ~1,000.

Yet, people still argue Surprise can be better. Why?
  • cjhhickman39
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    Passivesit procs major ward and resolve
  • Azyle1
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    Passivesit procs major ward and resolve

    Right, but from straight DPS though, Bloodthirst/Flurry is better, yes?
  • Ahzek
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    SA is the strongest PvP spammable, Flurry is the best PvE DPS (with vMA weps).
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  • Xvorg
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    Ahzek wrote: »
    SA is the strongest PvP spammable, Flurry is the best PvE DPS (with vMA weps).

    the second best... the best are Jabs
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  • Azyle1
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    Ahzek wrote: »
    SA is the strongest PvP spammable, Flurry is the best PvE DPS (with vMA weps).

    Run it on my mediocre geared Stamblade and Flurry higher ( Actually Bloodthirst is too )
  • Xvorg
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    Azyle1 wrote: »
    Ahzek wrote: »
    SA is the strongest PvP spammable, Flurry is the best PvE DPS (with vMA weps).

    Run it on my mediocre geared Stamblade and Flurry higher ( Actually Bloodthirst is too )

    Bloodthirst is a good option, has a heal associated and procs wpn enchant and poison. Paired with NMG and a crushing enchant + mark target can give you great numbers
    Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly

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    In the wrong house
    With the wrong ascendancy
    I took the wrong road
    That led to the wrong tendencies
    I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
    For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
    On the wrong day of the wrong week
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  • Brutusmax1mus
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    For pvp, flurry gets mitigated twice with cp. Hardy and thick skinned, so there is that. Surprise attack does a lot of a night blade in PvP in one skill. Can't beat it.
  • cjhhickman39
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    It comes down to what are you going for?
    With SA you get heavy damage heavy defense and breaks there defense .
    Flurry big damage
    One big point imo is SA gives you all three with one skill with flurry you are adding one or two more skills to the mix to get the same effects.
    Edited by cjhhickman39 on May 16, 2017 12:05AM
  • DocFrost72
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    If you're in vMA, 5k less resist > a few hundred more dps.

    If you have a tank, flurry. Doubly so if you have vma weaps.
  • Masel
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    Surprise attack all the way, especially in MW. Sustaining a vMA DW rotation is very hard in Morrowind, whereas a Surprise Attack Rotation can afford a few heavy attacks in it. Having two vicious ophidian on the front bar is pretty much mandatory so you have the 5-piece on the bar with your spammable.

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  • leepalmer95
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    For pvp, flurry gets mitigated twice with cp. Hardy and thick skinned, so there is that. Surprise attack does a lot of a night blade in PvP in one skill. Can't beat it.

    Its also gets boosted twice and your going to have more into dot damage than someone will have thick skinned...


    In pvp burst is key so SA

    In pve dps is key so flurry.
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  • Stannum
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    rapid strikes for PvE surprise attack for PvP (or for very rare NB non-sap tank build)
  • DannyLV702
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    For vma you want to use surprise attack
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