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Stage 7 VMA question

D0ntevenL1ft
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So I've beaten maelstrom countless times now and i can't seem to understand the mechanics on the 7th round boss? The enrage happens when no minders have spawned, does it happen based on health percentages?

Also isn't the venom caller killed by the enrage? Often he lives long enough to spawn a flower underneath me so i have to immediately interrupt the boss, then soon after he enrages once more again when no minders have spawned.

Lastly i seem to die from bleeding within the minders shell continuously and I'm curious where this comes from. This is the only round in the entire arena where i seem to die. Any answers?
  • Anastian
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    So, I learnt this the hard way.

    1) The enrage happens as soon as you kill the first spawner and lasts for a couple of seconds. You have to stick below the second minder to stay protected and kill him only when the boss reverts back to normal skin instead of red
    2) The venom caller is killed by the enraged scream but not immediatly, he has time to spawn ONE mushroom wave. I'd suggest killing him the first time. If you get hit by mushrooms and are a magicka class, stop the DPS and focus on shielding yourself to survive, then rush to a pool to heal up
    3) As soon as the boss enrages, all of his damage (including bleeding and the venom spit on the ground) is more than tripled. If he has bitten you a few seconds before enraging (and so, before the bleeding DOT applied by the bite fades), that damage is more than tripled and you die.

    If you know how to help me on the 5th phase on the other hand.. As a magicka, I sometimes struggle with the heavy damage I am dealt
  • BohnT
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    The bleeding comes from his bite attack.
    Normally the caster dies after 2 sec but often the plant still spawns.
    The enrage shouldn't happen until you kill one caster so maybe just lag or one of the countless bugs
  • kumatab14_ESO
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    I have noticed that if I interrupt him during the first scream he will randomly scream any time after that. I'm sure there this something else behind it, but I have only had it happen a handful of times. I usually just rip him down before the second add set and as long as I don't interrupt him everything is fine.
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Anastian wrote: »
    So, I learnt this the hard way.

    1) The enrage happens as soon as you kill the first spawner and lasts for a couple of seconds. You have to stick below the second minder to stay protected and kill him only when the boss reverts back to normal skin instead of red
    2) The venom caller is killed by the enraged scream but not immediatly, he has time to spawn ONE mushroom wave. I'd suggest killing him the first time. If you get hit by mushrooms and are a magicka class, stop the DPS and focus on shielding yourself to survive, then rush to a pool to heal up
    3) As soon as the boss enrages, all of his damage (including bleeding and the venom spit on the ground) is more than tripled. If he has bitten you a few seconds before enraging (and so, before the bleeding DOT applied by the bite fades), that damage is more than tripled and you die.

    If you know how to help me on the 5th phase on the other hand.. As a magicka, I sometimes struggle with the heavy damage I am dealt

    Okay the third point i didn't know so it amplifies the bleed damage; although I'm still lost as to why the behemoth enrages with no minders around (and obviously i haven't killed them both, neither had spawned and he still enrages). Still looking for answers as its throwing off my gameplay since i look for venom callers feeling safe with no minders around yet i turn my camera back and the boss has been enraged for over a second (aka death).
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    I have noticed that if I interrupt him during the first scream he will randomly scream any time after that. I'm sure there this something else behind it, but I have only had it happen a handful of times. I usually just rip him down before the second add set and as long as I don't interrupt him everything is fine.

    This may be it, but it seems like a bug? It seems the more i interrupt due to these bugs the more he enrages with no minders around… Ironic and annoying id say.
  • grim_tactics
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    1 thing I haven't figured out, even if the mechanics are done right and he is not enraged - I've been 1 shot bitten and 1 shot stun stomped.

    Happens every now and then but without reason.

    I'm still confused because these should only happened if enraged but I only attack with Overload on the boss and elemental blockade and liquid lightning. Never kill the mender until it's time and never use an interrupt.

    He still will do 1 shot mechanics at random times. This normal or a bug?
    Edited by grim_tactics on May 15, 2017 9:56PM
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    1 thing I haven't figured out, even if the mechanics are done right and he is not enraged - I've been 1 shot bitten and 1 shot stun stomped.

    Happens every now and then but without reason.

    I'm still confused because these should only happened if enraged but I only attack with Overload on the boss and elemental blockade and liquid lightning. Never kill the mender until it's time and never use an interrupt.

    He still will do 1 shot mechanics at random times. This normal or a bug?

    Im honestly not sure the entire arena seems bugged the last week or so; i don't even get menders before enrages and i ALWAYS get stun stomped then killed CC after CC.
  • MarriedWithChildren
    Afaik if you interrupt his scream phase he permanently enrages and you're toast . Do not interupt his enrage on vet . It's the mechanic . 6th round on a mdk is all about patience and meaningful uses of resources I find .
    Edited by MarriedWithChildren on May 15, 2017 10:04PM
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  • TheQueenOfSass
    I have noticed that if I interrupt him during the first scream he will randomly scream any time after that. I'm sure there this something else behind it, but I have only had it happen a handful of times. I usually just rip him down before the second add set and as long as I don't interrupt him everything is fine.

    This may be it, but it seems like a bug? It seems the more i interrupt due to these bugs the more he enrages with no minders around… Ironic and annoying id say.

    Not a bug. You need to do the mechanics. Kill one minder and let one shield you. Let him do his scream. Continue DPS until the next minders spawn. Repeat.

    Edit: I think it happens closely after 70% for the first enrage scream. Not sure about second since I kill it before then.
    Edited by TheQueenOfSass on May 15, 2017 10:15PM
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    I have noticed that if I interrupt him during the first scream he will randomly scream any time after that. I'm sure there this something else behind it, but I have only had it happen a handful of times. I usually just rip him down before the second add set and as long as I don't interrupt him everything is fine.

    This may be it, but it seems like a bug? It seems the more i interrupt due to these bugs the more he enrages with no minders around… Ironic and annoying id say.

    Not a bug. You need to do the mechanics. Kill one minder and let one shield you. Let him do his scream. Continue DPS until the next minders spawn. Repeat.

    Edit: I think it happens closely after 70% for the first enrage scream. Not sure about second since I kill it before then.

    You clearly aren't listening to what I have been saying considering I know the mechanics. HE ENRAGES WHEN NO MINDERS HAVE SPAWNED AND NONE HAVE BEEN KILLED ACCIDENTLY TO MISS THE SHIELD.

    Are you trying to tell me that ZOS Implemented this on purpose so we are forced to interrupt?
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