I miss Battlemaster's Corner
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✭✭adriant1978 wrote: »
I don't want to belittle anyone's fond memories of past mmos but bards seem dumb to me...0 -
Fishoscandi✭✭✭✭Edited by Fishoscandi on May 14, 2017 10:23AMFishoscandi - Orc NB
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AlcastClass RepresentativeAll of the builds 'work'. The problem is that you have 3 (maybe more) levels of player: The Elite Player, The Serious Player, The Casual Player. Deltia's stuff is good for serious players, BM's corner is good for casuals. Not much is good for Elites lol... maybe Tamriel Foundry?? O.o
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I will be start working on builds from next week on, because then most changes are done on PTS Morrowind. Plus my mainfocus is on resource management as a lot of players do not know how to handle those HUGE changes coming next patch.
Thank god they bring that battlemaster corner back..Edited by Alcast on May 14, 2017 10:30AMhttps://alcasthq.com - Alcasthq.com Builds & Guides
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✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Funny you should mention this...
Thats how I view the natch potes these days...
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✭adriant1978 wrote: »
I don't want to belittle anyone's fond memories of past mmos but bards seem dumb to me...
It was a reference to a funny webcomic about Dungeons and Dragons
http://www.giantitp.com/Comics.html [The Beauty of Tamriel] My collection of ESO screenshots
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✭✭✭✭✭tinythinker wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Funny you should mention this...
!!! O.O !!! Reeeealllly????
Of course its coming back.
POP QUIZ
Which class do you think they will start with when it "comes back"
And by comes back, I mean returns at a critical time as decided by the marketing department.
So which class and build will be featured first? You have a 1 in 4 um i mean 1 in 5 chance of guessing correctly.
The cool Bard class concept I came up with?
this would potentially be a cool next class to be honest...bard college was always a fan favorite and requestd questline/dlc for skyrim that never happend.... and i think a bard class maybe also with a dps, a heal and a support tree would be a cool edition that is something completly new....0 -
Avalon✭✭✭✭✭adriant1978 wrote: »
I don't want to belittle anyone's fond memories of past mmos but bards seem dumb to me...
Naah!! Bards are awesome! We have ice mages, fire mages, etc... what do they use? Elements. There are Necromancers that use death magic, and druids/templars that use life magic, as well as those using light and dark magics, right? Bards use Sound Magic. They manipulate the vibrations and frequency of waves of sound. This can be used to soothe an enemy, or cause the ground to shake violently, shatter ear drums, or weave sound magic with music to bolster their comrades, even healing those who hear.
The problem is that they are TOO cool for most games, and developers inevitably make them into sucky supports following the phrase, "Jack of All Trades, Master of None", which they very much are NOT jacks of all trades. They specialize in Sound, which makes them charismatic by nature (either friendly or intimidating, Orcish Bards anyone?) And, could be just about any race, as we all need music and morale... Nordic Dirge-Singers, Orcish Warchanters, Elvish Minstrels, etc.
Sorry, Bard has always been a particular favorite of mine, and really do wish I could play one in ESO
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✭✭adriant1978 wrote: »
I don't want to belittle anyone's fond memories of past mmos but bards seem dumb to me...
Naah!! Bards are awesome! We have ice mages, fire mages, etc... what do they use? Elements. There are Necromancers that use death magic, and druids/templars that use life magic, as well as those using light and dark magics, right? Bards use Sound Magic. They manipulate the vibrations and frequency of waves of sound. This can be used to soothe an enemy, or cause the ground to shake violently, shatter ear drums, or weave sound magic with music to bolster their comrades, even healing those who hear.
The problem is that they are TOO cool for most games, and developers inevitably make them into sucky supports following the phrase, "Jack of All Trades, Master of None", which they very much are NOT jacks of all trades. They specialize in Sound, which makes them charismatic by nature (either friendly or intimidating, Orcish Bards anyone?) And, could be just about any race, as we all need music and morale... Nordic Dirge-Singers, Orcish Warchanters, Elvish Minstrels, etc.
Sorry, Bard has always been a particular favorite of mine, and really do wish I could play one in ESO
Bard probably isn't going to be an eso class. In TES bards are a largely non-combat class, and the combat skills they do have are directly weapon based. They could have an illusion skill line, and maybe some kind of tanky buff skill line, but the options are slim.
Necromancers on the other hand...
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Avalon✭✭✭✭✭adriant1978 wrote: »
I don't want to belittle anyone's fond memories of past mmos but bards seem dumb to me...
Naah!! Bards are awesome! We have ice mages, fire mages, etc... what do they use? Elements. There are Necromancers that use death magic, and druids/templars that use life magic, as well as those using light and dark magics, right? Bards use Sound Magic. They manipulate the vibrations and frequency of waves of sound. This can be used to soothe an enemy, or cause the ground to shake violently, shatter ear drums, or weave sound magic with music to bolster their comrades, even healing those who hear.
The problem is that they are TOO cool for most games, and developers inevitably make them into sucky supports following the phrase, "Jack of All Trades, Master of None", which they very much are NOT jacks of all trades. They specialize in Sound, which makes them charismatic by nature (either friendly or intimidating, Orcish Bards anyone?) And, could be just about any race, as we all need music and morale... Nordic Dirge-Singers, Orcish Warchanters, Elvish Minstrels, etc.
Sorry, Bard has always been a particular favorite of mine, and really do wish I could play one in ESO
Bard probably isn't going to be an eso class. In TES bards are a largely non-combat class, and the combat skills they do have are directly weapon based. They could have an illusion skill line, and maybe some kind of tanky buff skill line, but the options are slim.
Necromancers on the other hand...
Except... the people who play TES games for lore and precedence generally are not playing ESO... because ESO screws up on lore/canon a lot. ZOS can do whatever they want within certain limits. They could, easily, make a Bard class to handle 3 trees: Sound, Illusion, Charm. Add in a 1H and empty hand skill line (as I pointed out above). It would be a huge addition to the game to allow for an entirely new way to play for all classes, and introduce a new class that wouldn't be overpowered at all (unlike Necromancer, which would inevitably be either OP or consistently bitched about how it isn't powerful enough)0 -
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✭✭adriant1978 wrote: »
I don't want to belittle anyone's fond memories of past mmos but bards seem dumb to me...
Naah!! Bards are awesome! We have ice mages, fire mages, etc... what do they use? Elements. There are Necromancers that use death magic, and druids/templars that use life magic, as well as those using light and dark magics, right? Bards use Sound Magic. They manipulate the vibrations and frequency of waves of sound. This can be used to soothe an enemy, or cause the ground to shake violently, shatter ear drums, or weave sound magic with music to bolster their comrades, even healing those who hear.
The problem is that they are TOO cool for most games, and developers inevitably make them into sucky supports following the phrase, "Jack of All Trades, Master of None", which they very much are NOT jacks of all trades. They specialize in Sound, which makes them charismatic by nature (either friendly or intimidating, Orcish Bards anyone?) And, could be just about any race, as we all need music and morale... Nordic Dirge-Singers, Orcish Warchanters, Elvish Minstrels, etc.
Sorry, Bard has always been a particular favorite of mine, and really do wish I could play one in ESO
Bard probably isn't going to be an eso class. In TES bards are a largely non-combat class, and the combat skills they do have are directly weapon based. They could have an illusion skill line, and maybe some kind of tanky buff skill line, but the options are slim.
Necromancers on the other hand...
Except... the people who play TES games for lore and precedence generally are not playing ESO... because ESO screws up on lore/canon a lot. ZOS can do whatever they want within certain limits. They could, easily, make a Bard class to handle 3 trees: Sound, Illusion, Charm. Add in a 1H and empty hand skill line (as I pointed out above). It would be a huge addition to the game to allow for an entirely new way to play for all classes, and introduce a new class that wouldn't be overpowered at all (unlike Necromancer, which would inevitably be either OP or consistently bitched about how it isn't powerful enough)
There are hundreds of forum threads that outright disprove your theory about people who care about lore not playing ESO. As annoying as ZOS can be when it comes to lore, they have standards. They aren't going to just make up "Sound Magic". And what exactly would you be doing with "charm" in combat? As for your necromancer response, that can be said about absolutely any new class (case in point: Warden).0 -
Tessitura✭✭✭✭✭adriant1978 wrote: »
I don't want to belittle anyone's fond memories of past mmos but bards seem dumb to me...
Naah!! Bards are awesome! We have ice mages, fire mages, etc... what do they use? Elements. There are Necromancers that use death magic, and druids/templars that use life magic, as well as those using light and dark magics, right? Bards use Sound Magic. They manipulate the vibrations and frequency of waves of sound. This can be used to soothe an enemy, or cause the ground to shake violently, shatter ear drums, or weave sound magic with music to bolster their comrades, even healing those who hear.
The problem is that they are TOO cool for most games, and developers inevitably make them into sucky supports following the phrase, "Jack of All Trades, Master of None", which they very much are NOT jacks of all trades. They specialize in Sound, which makes them charismatic by nature (either friendly or intimidating, Orcish Bards anyone?) And, could be just about any race, as we all need music and morale... Nordic Dirge-Singers, Orcish Warchanters, Elvish Minstrels, etc.
Sorry, Bard has always been a particular favorite of mine, and really do wish I could play one in ESO
Bard probably isn't going to be an eso class. In TES bards are a largely non-combat class, and the combat skills they do have are directly weapon based. They could have an illusion skill line, and maybe some kind of tanky buff skill line, but the options are slim.
Necromancers on the other hand...
Except... the people who play TES games for lore and precedence generally are not playing ESO... because ESO screws up on lore/canon a lot. ZOS can do whatever they want within certain limits. They could, easily, make a Bard class to handle 3 trees: Sound, Illusion, Charm. Add in a 1H and empty hand skill line (as I pointed out above). It would be a huge addition to the game to allow for an entirely new way to play for all classes, and introduce a new class that wouldn't be overpowered at all (unlike Necromancer, which would inevitably be either OP or consistently bitched about how it isn't powerful enough)
What? Just to be clear. How would Necromancer be anymore likely to be overpowered then anything else? It has the same possibilities as anything else to be as balanced or not balanced. You are clearly just saying things based completely on your bias for the idea of a Bard. I vote Necromancer for next ESO president.0 -
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✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Funny you should mention this...
!!! O.O !!! Reeeealllly????
Yeah, just after they balance the classes in PvP and PvE...
Oh... ...wait.
And wait...
And wait...
And wait...
Ooops, gets "upgraded" (this is a buff if you think of it in reverse) to a "No ETA".
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