I agree.
They could just add an requirement for getting the next step like getting an new level or cp level or wait an time like 2 hours.

Agreed.

Okay, thanks @Enodoc, then I guess I just had a lot of ranks via gathering books, but never went on to do the quests.


Looking more closely at all the intertwined story lines, there is also much contradiction and NPCs taking reference to something that never happened (yet).

If I get it right, the NPCs are designed to approach you in a way, where the player makes a journey, from nobody to somebody, which seems to go like this:

Nobody (Vestige) turning into:
-> Champion of local reputation in the faction
-> Champion of the faction leader
-> Diplomat to the other factions
-> Hero of Tamriel and now Champion of Meridia the Aedra/Daedra
With the last task to live through the other faction's perspective to "be prepared for the non-mortal threats" from the realms of the Daedra and in particular Molag Bal.... (whatever that means...)

Anyway, that seems the order in which it all makes sense.
Thereafter comes the DLCs (because in one DLC I remember an NPC taking reference to the concluded planemeld plot).

Maybe the game could actually guide the player. I mean, if a player wants to do whatever he/she likes, and go anywhere, sure... but right now, for new players that want to play the story in a way that makes any sense, there is ZERO guidance.
So if you are a player that's into story-stuff, playing it in the wrong order totally destroys the narrative.

Yeah, I agree I've had new friends start playing and ask why the prophet keeps showing up. I find it really annoying.

Well to be honest that only happens if you don't tackle the main quests right as they become available, as they are lvl gated. At least that was my experience, the quests unlocked every 5 levels.

The Prophet sending me off then calling me right back was the only time I noticed this. I still think that quest should have some level requirement because its possible, I believe, to do them one right after the other when you get off the boat. Which I did at first before looking up when these were supposed to really be hitting me and started sticking to that timeframe. I completed the main quest without hardly any of the fighter or mage guilds done.

Time to start thinking of the main story like the books you sometimes pick up in parts. You know, you get chapter 3 here, chapter 7 here, chapter one here.. Over time, you get the whole story, but until you do, its just a jumbled mess of characters. I dont like it, but.. thats what we are left with.

BTW, I didnt EVER answer the Prophet's summons. (They used to be at levels 5, 15, 25, 35, 45.) On my main, my only level 50, I kept the Mages and Fighters guild on the same pace, so I actually finished all three "Main" storylines in the same week. It.. was an interesting week. They do, however, seem to complement each other.

@Dreepa From what I remember the timeline after Champion of Meridia:

Craglorn.. you run into one of the NPCs in your expedition into Meridias realm in Crag, fighting one of the rifts.
Abah's Landing ..... I dont remember a tie
Gold Coast ..... Have not done this one yet.
Swamps of the Hist .. same

Niaver wrote: »

Yeah, there are a lot of problems with 1T system because the quests were not designed for it.
And there are too many of them to remake them .

It is probably true, that there are too many of them to remake them. However, the thieves system added a lot of stuff to existing content. Changing old NPCs, new voice files (with the correct actor), playing spawn points all over tamriel for safe-boxes and thieves-boxes. So I see that the devs are willing to go through the old content if it adds real benefit and fits their concepts.

That being said, maybe it must not be a total rework, but just a link. Inter-dependencies of the quests, where the quest NPCs are locked until the player has reached certain progress in other quests. So you could still explore the world, but the quests that don't make sense are hidden behind triggers that depend on other quest lines.

This way, you could make sure you are not the hero of your faction (e.g. fighting AD spies) while also working for the AD queen at the same time.

Dreepa wrote: »

Before 1T a variety of different NPCs were approaching you with new info about the next step in a guild or main quest.
This felt very organic and was actually also suprising. It was cool when you played the game for the first time, as it felt as if the game reacted to you becoming stronger or advancing through the world.

Now, with 1Tamriel, you finish a quest of a particular guild or in the harborage, and just outside of the corresponding building, you are contacted again. This makes no sense and just feels broken.

-"Hey, I need to study this book, come back later"... *Player leaves the building* "Oh, I have studied the book, come back immediatelly!".
or
-"Leave me some time to investigate, come back later" *Player leaves harborage* "Oh, come to the harborage immedatially!" ... dude, I was just there and you said you need more time.

I don't know how to fix this with the 1Tamriel approach to the game, but maybe there is a way to make it less *stupid?*

IIRC some of those are still locked to skills in the guild for instance, so not entirely divorced.