TBS + Julianos? [solved]

mocap · May 2017

There are many threads about tbs vs juli, but no one said about using both at the same time (5x tbs + 4x juli). Is this combination bad or what? Don't get it )

dpencil1 · May 2017

4 Juli is nothing special. You'd get better results with 3 Willpower and a random staff.

That said 5 Juli does outperform TBS generally.

TheDoomsdayMonster · May 2017

mocap wrote: »

There are many threads about tbs vs juli, but no one said about using both at the same time (5x tbs + 4x juli). Is this combination bad or what? Don't get it )

Is it correct to assume that you are:

x5 Julianos, x4 TBS, x2 Monster Set on bar 1...
x5 Julianos, x5 TBS, x2 Monster Set on bar 2...

Assuming that this is how you are configured (Healing on bar 1, DPS on bar 2 perhaps), there is nothing wrong with this at all...

As a matter of fact, this is fantasic set up (assuming you have a good loadout of course)...

Illurian · May 2017

I think it's because it's usually hard to pair up 2 crafted sets, as you aren't able to get both 5 x bonuses due to the absence of jewelry crafting.

Also, magicka builds have been gravitating away from dual wield and towards double destro staves. I'd expect this to be even more so with the sustain changes come Morrowind. This means that you won't be getting 5 + 4 bonus, but rather a 5 + 3.

Using two crafted sets also means that you aren't able to use monster sets.

This is why for two handed builds (magicka dual destro staff dps for example), people either combine 5 + 5 + 1 (dropped set with jewelry + crafted/dropped set + 1 piece monster/vMA/vDSA), or 3 + 2 + 5 + 1 (willpower/trial jewelry, 2 piece monster, 5 piece crafted/dropped, 1 vMA/vDSA).

Panth141 · May 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

mocap wrote: »

There are many threads about tbs vs juli, but no one said about using both at the same time (5x tbs + 4x juli). Is this combination bad or what? Don't get it )

Is it correct to assume that you are:

x5 Julianos, x4 TBS, x2 Monster Set on bar 1...
x5 Julianos, x5 TBS, x2 Monster Set on bar 2...

Assuming that this is how you are configured (Healing on bar 1, DPS on bar 2 perhaps), there is nothing wrong with this at all...

As a matter of fact, this is fantasic set up (assuming you have a good loadout of course)...

You'd lose the second mundus stone the moment you swapped to your front bar.

Illurian · May 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

mocap wrote: »

There are many threads about tbs vs juli, but no one said about using both at the same time (5x tbs + 4x juli). Is this combination bad or what? Don't get it )

Is it correct to assume that you are:

x5 Julianos, x4 TBS, x2 Monster Set on bar 1...
x5 Julianos, x5 TBS, x2 Monster Set on bar 2...

Assuming that this is how you are configured (Healing on bar 1, DPS on bar 2 perhaps), there is nothing wrong with this at all...

As a matter of fact, this is fantasic set up (assuming you have a good loadout of course)...

What are you even talking about? It's impossible to have 2 full crafted sets and monster sets together.

Also having 4 TBS on backbar will remove the second mundus bonus the second you bar swap.

Wizball1987 · May 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Is it correct to assume that you are:

x5 Julianos, x4 TBS, x2 Monster Set on bar 1...
x5 Julianos, x5 TBS, x2 Monster Set on bar 2...

Do u mean 5+4
4+5
+Monster + willpower?

Stannum · May 2017

The only way to have two crafted 5 set bonuses is to use weapon swap (and it is only usefull if proc set has effect active after swap). For example you can use clever alchemist 5, use potion, then swap to another bar and have Julianos 5 bonus with aclchemist buff bonus active. So it is useless to combine TBS+ Juli as you will not have both bonuses active.

mocap · May 2017

ok, i see. Thanx everyone )