Throw in an extra crown crate to Console users over early access.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2017

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

Its not ZoS, good lord!

Its Sony and Microsoft.... we have discussion every week...

Starting to sound like Charlie Browns teacher... wha wha wha, wha, wha wha wha wha wha

@ThePaleItalian

Care to explain how it's Sony and Microsoft when ZOS hasn't submitted the update for cert yet?

Please read the post above this.

@ThePaleItalian

I did that's why I quoted you. Ginas comment isn't that they submitted and Xbox and Sony delayed the release it's that they haven't submitted for cert and won't do so until after PC is ready but then it takes time to go through certification so ZOS decided to release pc early rather than on June 6th.

Go back and read all relevant dev fracker comments on this and then please respond to my question if warranted.

Did she say due to the time needed? Read what she said. I am just stating that if anything ever goes wrong or people don't get something, its always on ZoS. I was on PC to start and I jumped to PS4.

Does anyone ever go after Sony or Microsoft? Just curious.

@ThePaleItalian
Click https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/tracker

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4107638/#Comment_4107638
She confirms they haven't sent for cert and are deciding to wait until they feel pc is ready and then will release on PC and submit for cert for consoles.

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If we sent the console update for certification early, then it wouldn't include most of the fixes and tweaks we add in the later PTS patches which is less than ideal.

Well they don't win either way. Plus you play on Xbox and PC, so why are you so upset?

Only PTS for pc and live for Xbox one not live as it's wouldn't make sense to play both live in my opinion.

SydneyGrey · May 2017

Oh come on.
You knew you'd get to play on June 6th. You're still getting to play on June 6th. You're literally not losing anything, or being inconvenienced in any way. You don't deserve a free gift for that.

Graydon · May 2017

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Oh come on.
You knew you'd get to play on June 6th. You're still getting to play on June 6th. You're literally not losing anything, or being inconvenienced in any way. You don't deserve a free gift for that.

If Johnny can't play, nobody can play!

Let's be fair!

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2017

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Let's be fair. Or come up with different solution. We are all looking forward to Morrowind, not just PC.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Why would they you should be greatful they even took the time to go cross platform at launch they claimed it would be PC only

Yes because they launched on Console out of the kindness of their hearts. It wasnt as if Skyrim was Bethesdas highest grossing ES game and that the vast majority of sales were on Console. It wasnt as ZOS wasnt trying to tap into that market and that they now share an obligation to their customer/consumer base on Consoles to provide some semblance of a fair experience regardless of platform.

Had this Early Access been limited to PS4 or Xbox One these forums would be on fire and every last person here swearing up and down that Console players are getting what they deserve would be themselves crying for an early access themselves.

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2017

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Oh come on.
You knew you'd get to play on June 6th. You're still getting to play on June 6th. You're literally not losing anything, or being inconvenienced in any way. You don't deserve a free gift for that.

But PC deserves a free 2+ week Early Access? Hmmm.

zaria · May 2017

As an pc player I have no issue with say 5 crates to console players for getting late in.
It don't hurt anybody and reduces bad feelings.
Even if you get an less bugged launch and 14 more non nerfed days

ArchMikem · May 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

You chose to play on a platform that has a restricted ecosystem within. All code that runs through a console must be preapproved. This takes time. You say fair? I say stop being selfish.

I love that incredibly stupid remark PC players use.

Its easier to do things on PC. Therefore, PC players get more additional content.

Its harder to do things on Console. Therefore, Console players get left out.

Console players wish and ask for more inclusion. PC players tell us to stop being so selfish.

?!!??!? Do you even see the blatant entitlement in that statement? "We dont want to share the special attention we get, stop wanting whats fair, its selfish, shame on you."

Sigtric · May 2017

ArchMikem wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

You chose to play on a platform that has a restricted ecosystem within. All code that runs through a console must be preapproved. This takes time. You say fair? I say stop being selfish.

I love that incredibly stupid remark PC players use.

Its easier to do things on PC. Therefore, PC players get more additional content.

Its harder to do things on Console. Therefore, Console players get left out.

Console players wish and ask for more inclusion. PC players tell us to stop being so selfish.

?!!??!? Do you even see the blatant entitlement in that statement? "We dont want to share the special attention we get, stop wanting whats fair, its selfish, shame on you."

It's easier to do things on PC: ZOS is in total control of their own assets and servers and players connection to them.
It's harder to do things on console: ZOS has limitations as to what can be done, and approval processes they must deal with to get their product into the console ecosystems.

Consoler players wish and blah blah: This has nothing to do with PC vs console, I am saying stop being selfish to someone being selfish.

Creds: Have gaming PC, XB1 and PS4, own ESO on PC and PS4. Have owned every traditional console (no handheld) both Sony and Microsoft have made, most Nintendos, Most Segas, Atari -including Jaguar 64. Don't assume crap because you think I am a "PC player". I was playing games on consoles LONG before I ever had a computer, and during the duration except for a period of time in between my third Xbox360 dying and picking up a PS3.

brandonv516 · May 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

Don't assume crap because you think I am a "PC player".

Nobody thinks you are a "PC player". You identify as one, therefore you are!

ArchMikem · May 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

You chose to play on a platform that has a restricted ecosystem within. All code that runs through a console must be preapproved. This takes time. You say fair? I say stop being selfish.

I love that incredibly stupid remark PC players use.

Its easier to do things on PC. Therefore, PC players get more additional content.

Its harder to do things on Console. Therefore, Console players get left out.

Console players wish and ask for more inclusion. PC players tell us to stop being so selfish.

?!!??!? Do you even see the blatant entitlement in that statement? "We dont want to share the special attention we get, stop wanting whats fair, its selfish, shame on you."

It's easier to do things on PC: ZOS is in total control of their own assets and servers and players connection to them.
It's harder to do things on console: ZOS has limitations as to what can be done, and approval processes they must deal with to get their product into the console ecosystems.

Consoler players wish and blah blah: This has nothing to do with PC vs console, I am saying stop being selfish to someone being selfish.

Creds: Have gaming PC, XB1 and PS4, own ESO on PC and PS4. Have owned every traditional console (no handheld) both Sony and Microsoft have made, most Nintendos, Most Segas, Atari -including Jaguar 64. Don't assume crap because you think I am a "PC player". I was playing games on consoles LONG before I ever had a computer, and during the duration except for a period of time in between my third Xbox360 dying and picking up a PS3.

I dont beleive anyone asked for "credentials". You want me to take your word as Law cause you have an extensive gaming history? Yeah, so does most others, including yours truly. However i dont use that to solidify what i say. I just know whats right from wrong, and your use of the word selfish is very wrong.

ManwithBeard9 · May 2017

If console gets a free clown crate, PC accounts should get 5 because we are better.

Sigtric · May 2017

ArchMikem wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

You chose to play on a platform that has a restricted ecosystem within. All code that runs through a console must be preapproved. This takes time. You say fair? I say stop being selfish.

I love that incredibly stupid remark PC players use.

Its easier to do things on PC. Therefore, PC players get more additional content.

Its harder to do things on Console. Therefore, Console players get left out.

Console players wish and ask for more inclusion. PC players tell us to stop being so selfish.

?!!??!? Do you even see the blatant entitlement in that statement? "We dont want to share the special attention we get, stop wanting whats fair, its selfish, shame on you."

It's easier to do things on PC: ZOS is in total control of their own assets and servers and players connection to them.
It's harder to do things on console: ZOS has limitations as to what can be done, and approval processes they must deal with to get their product into the console ecosystems.

Consoler players wish and blah blah: This has nothing to do with PC vs console, I am saying stop being selfish to someone being selfish.

Creds: Have gaming PC, XB1 and PS4, own ESO on PC and PS4. Have owned every traditional console (no handheld) both Sony and Microsoft have made, most Nintendos, Most Segas, Atari -including Jaguar 64. Don't assume crap because you think I am a "PC player". I was playing games on consoles LONG before I ever had a computer, and during the duration except for a period of time in between my third Xbox360 dying and picking up a PS3.

I dont beleive anyone asked for "credentials". You want me to take your word as Law cause you have an extensive gaming history? Yeah, so does most others, including yours truly. However i dont use that to solidify what i say. I just know whats right from wrong, and your use of the word selfish is very wrong.

Creds are only there because you made assumptions that I am a "PC Player" when in fact I am just a gamer, and that I somehow believe that because I mainly play ESO on PC I am entitled to Early Access. TBH I got other stuff going on with gaming right now and I don't know how much if any I"ll even see anything during Early Access. It's a nice bonus sure.

Asking for some sort of compensation because something is perceived as unfair is dumb and selfish.

Vizikul · May 2017

DoShazarr wrote: »

Why would people even want to play this on a console is what I've been asking myself for months now

Ha, I'm asking myself a similar question: Why would anyone play this on PC.

Sigtric · May 2017

Vizikul wrote: »

DoShazarr wrote: »

Why would people even want to play this on a console is what I've been asking myself for months now

Ha, I'm asking myself a similar question: Why would anyone play this on PC.

Having played both PC: better graphics, faster frame rates, easier (for me) to control with gaming mouse(this game specifically)

That last reason is one of two big reasons I main PC. While ESO is much more slim in terms of hotkeys needed than most MMOs, I got used to playing on a 12key mouse+ keyboard and a console controller just isn't versatile enough for me and what I got used to doing prior to console release. Second reason, by the time console came out all my friends and myself were already well established on PC.

brandonv516 · May 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

Asking for some sort of compensation because something is perceived as unfair is dumb and selfish.

If my perception is that my hamburger tastes nasty, I believe I am entitled to a new one. I'll never know if I can get a new one unless I ask.

Anyways, it doesn't hurt for the OP to ask for something that he/she feels is necessary. It's not selfish or dumb in the slightest bit. What's the worst that could happen? They say "no" right?

PocketNova · May 2017

I don't get the uproar. It was announced as June 6th, it's still releasing on consoles on June 6th.

You chose to play on consoles, you're fully aware that ZOS needs 3rd party approval before updates can be released on consoles. None of this is new information.

They decided to do an early access on PC/MAC. So what? The date for consoles hasn't changed, the content going onto consoles hasn't changed. I don't see the need for some kind of 'reward' because the update is being released on the announced date.

You don't like it, switch to PC or don't play. Whining here ain't gonna get you anything, just makes you sound like an impatient child.

Smmokkee · May 2017

Lol I doubt these pc players would be as defensive of this as they are now if it was coming to console first.

PocketNova · May 2017

Smmokkee wrote: »

Lol I doubt these pc players would be as defensive of this as they are now if it was coming to console first.

I personally wouldn't mind if consoles got it first. Would give them first crack at the buggy patch, PC sadly is always first.

t3hdubzy · May 2017

Lets all stop being entitled... problem fixed

Tipsy247 · May 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

You chose to play on a platform that has a restricted ecosystem within. All code that runs through a console must be preapproved. This takes time. You say fair? I say stop being selfish. It's not my fault your platform requires this and mine doesn't.

Fair? Maybe this is squaring up the nearly year long content drought I went through while all dev effort was centered on making the game available to you on console.
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The same people that defend it would be the first complaining if consoles were given the content earlier. Fact of the matter is that we all paid the same price with the same release date. I am jealous of the fact that a certain group of customers get content I pre-ordered before I will. However, I believe that it is really cool that the PC players get the content if it will be ready. I fail to see why the post quoted will not see anything due to ignorance. In fact, I do not see why PC players have anything to say in this thread. You guys got something, great. Console players are asking to not be left out. What business do you have telling us we can't do that?

Tipsy247 · May 2017

Woeler wrote: »

You decided to buy an on purpose limited machine with ridiculous release policies and checks all developers have to go through and that are a total pain in the ass.

Totally your own choice.

But what does this have to do with console players getting a bonus because we cannot get pre-release?

t3hdubzy · May 2017

Tipsy247 wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

You chose to play on a platform that has a restricted ecosystem within. All code that runs through a console must be preapproved. This takes time. You say fair? I say stop being selfish. It's not my fault your platform requires this and mine doesn't.

Fair? Maybe this is squaring up the nearly year long content drought I went through while all dev effort was centered on making the game available to you on console.
.

The same people that defend it would be the first complaining if consoles were given the content earlier. Fact of the matter is that we all paid the same price with the same release date. I am jealous of the fact that a certain group of customers get content I pre-ordered before I will. However, I believe that it is really cool that the PC players get the content if it will be ready. I fail to see why the post quoted will not see anything due to ignorance. In fact, I do not see why PC players have anything to say in this thread. You guys got something, great. Console players are asking to not be left out. What business do you have telling us we can't do that?

Its one thing to admit jealousy which is mature. But all the people talking about legal ramifications and wrong decision and i want this free is quite thr opposite.

Bobby_V_Rockit · May 2017

Meh, gives me two more weeks of savibg undaunted keys

Phatmattfu · May 2017

At least we got that pre-order theme with the music that gets annoying after 5 mins!

Kay1 · May 2017

Runs wrote: »

Fair...

Console getting more than they already are, fair?

You are getting two extra weeks to prepare. Two extra weeks of farming the sets you want. Two extra weeks of regen.

PC users are getting what? Two weeks of testing on the live server.

But console should get an extra crown crate.

People are complaining about the early access being released, not in general, there's more PC players than console players complaining because they still need time to farm everything before this game becomes Dark Soul in new game.

DoShazarr wrote: »

Why would people even want to play this on a console is what I've been asking myself for months now

PvE? PC wins and can laugh on the consoles with all the addons you don't even have to know trials mechanics there's add-ons who tell you when to block and dodge roll so PC is master race also for that.

PvP? No cheaters,no macros, no difference between hardware so everyone play in a fair atmosphere while in PC a player with a very good PC, good keyboard and rpg mice will destroy anyone who doesn't hace access to those.

QuebraRegra · May 2017

zaria wrote: »

As an pc player I have no issue with say 5 crates to console players for getting late in.
It don't hurt anybody and reduces bad feelings.
Even if you get an less bugged launch and 14 more non nerfed days

I salute yer wisdom

Aliyavana · May 2017

Phatmattfu wrote: »

At least we got that pre-order theme with the music that gets annoying after 5 mins!

Did you just call nerevar rising annoying!?!?By vehk!!! Blasphemous nwah

TheTwistedRune · May 2017

Right. So I have a question for those on console. Because ZOS has encountered obstacles to provide console players with Early Access, would you rather they withdraw the option for those who play on PC?

Oompuh · May 2017

TheTwistedRune wrote: »

Right. So I have a question for those on console. Because ZOS has encountered obstacles to provide console players with Early Access, would you rather they withdraw the option for those who play on PC?

I would of rather they kept their word and let Xbox and PS4 compete for first trial clear as they said. Calling it "Early access" when it is the same as every other patch in the game is misleading. ZOS just figured out that the PC patch would be done the same time as consoles, but consoles have to be sent to get cert, so the might as well update PC since it is ready. The original plan was to delay PC for console. It is not the case anymore, which I understand. But the fact that this was the first patch which put console on equal standing with PC was important to us end game PVErs. Now that's gone.

Huyen · May 2017

People seem to forget the amount of games released for only the consoles, and not avaible on the PC. So dont complain!