Whats going on with Writs?

MacCait · May 2017

Has the droprate of master writs been ninja nerfed?

It's been weeks since I had a sealed writ drop, yet am doing writs everyday on multiple characters. I'm a 9 trait master crafter and know almost every motif, yet nothing is dropping.

It kind of appears as though the RNG percentage has dropped somehow.

Anyone else noticed this?

grim_tactics · May 2017

I was thinking the same thing.

Before last small patch I was getting Blacksmithing, Clothing, and Woodworking master writs at a decent drop rate and had prob 1 or 2 a week that were really good ones.

Now - all I get are the 2 writ valued for Alchemy and Enchanting. Have not gotten any others in almost a month.

Could just be RNG but something is up.

They said they fixed provisioning writ drops - yeah - still none of those and I'm only missing maybe 5 recipes

xXMichonneXx · May 2017

I am experiencing the opposite. I used to only get writs worth 2-5 vouchers and only about once or twice a week. The past week I've received 2-3 a day, worth anywhere from 20-100 vouchers. I'm not even kidding. I tested my new found RNG and skinned 57 fish----got 4 PERFECT ROE. Like WTF?

PlagueSD · May 2017

xXMichonneXx wrote: »

I am experiencing the opposite. I used to only get writs worth 2-5 vouchers and only about once or twice a week. The past week I've received 2-3 a day, worth anywhere from 20-100 vouchers. I'm not even kidding. I tested my new found RNG and skinned 57 fish----got 4 PERFECT ROE. Like WTF?

Screenshot, or it didn't happen..

xXMichonneXx · May 2017

PlagueSD wrote: »

xXMichonneXx wrote: »

I am experiencing the opposite. I used to only get writs worth 2-5 vouchers and only about once or twice a week. The past week I've received 2-3 a day, worth anywhere from 20-100 vouchers. I'm not even kidding. I tested my new found RNG and skinned 57 fish----got 4 PERFECT ROE. Like WTF?

Screenshot, or it didn't happen..

sounds like I'm trolling I know.

bebynnag · May 2017

i have a 9 trait crafter that knows EVERY motif - and have NEVER recieved any writ

my other characters that know next top no traits or motifs receive writs all the time.

the drop rate of master writs is supposed to increase if you have more traits & moatives learned, clearly the coding is the wrong way around

i have raised this topic multiple times both here & on various social media platforms, submited bug reports all of which have been ignored.

Marabornwingrion · May 2017

I'm sure it was stealth nerfed. Not the first time I spotted hidden nerfs in drop rates in this game.

I was getting a lot of them right after homestead update. Now after I researched a lot of new traits and complete many motif books, I stopped getting them. If I finally got some, it's usually for 2-7 vouchers.

I stopped doing them. Waste of time and mats.

scorpiodog · May 2017

Astrid_V wrote: »

I'm sure it was stealth nerfed. Not the first time I spotted hidden nerfs in drop rates in this game.

I was getting a lot of them right after homestead update. Now after I researched a lot of new traits and complete many motif books, I stopped getting them. If I finally got some, it's usually for 2-7 vouchers.

I stopped doing them. Waste of time and mats.

I noticed a decrease in all writs across the board - some of my alts aren't max level.

Thrasher91604 · May 2017

Yep writ drops have been nerfed OR the logic was flipped to REDUCE the chance if you learn more motifs.

What is the story ZOS?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Cpt_Teemo · May 2017

Yeah I haven't really gotten any for the past month and my main crafter has every single motif to count towards one, and also 15 more traits to learn and 2 out of 37 days gg droprates.

My alts sometimes get them but there all low 5-7 ones while the same people every day get various 100-300 voucher writs somehow I don't get it seems like a Rigged Number Generator tbh.

Shivvies · May 2017

Hah.

Yeah, because the anecdotal experience of 3-5 players is enough data to be statistically significant.

To see if the drop rates changed you'd have to turn in thousands and thousands writs.

Cheers,

Shivs

Thrasher91604 · May 2017

You think it's just us? It's not. Nice blinders.

Hippie4927 · May 2017

Nothing has changed for me. I never did get much in master writs.....mostly enchanter 2 voucher writs with the occasional 5 voucher cloth or bs writ. I am still getting the same. It has been a disappointment from day one. I might add that I have 3 master crafters, provisioners, enchanters.

Thrasher91604 · May 2017

Did the number of motifs you learn or crafting achievements change significantly?

Aurie · May 2017

There are other threads on this subject. Seems that a lot of us are experiencing virtually no writ drop rate.

I can't remember the last time I had one, and that with 9 characters of varying levels of crafting doing them every day......around three weeks or so. Until then I only had around five or six in total, and those were just 2 and 5 token ones.

I really don't believe this is a simple matter of RNG any more. It's going on for too long now to be random.

@ZOS are you looking into this issue? May we have a response please.

STEVIL · May 2017

On PC/NA my masters drops have remained consistent. Except for provisioning, which seems to almost never drop, i see mostly the same mode and median dropping this week as last week as almost all the weeks before as far as per day vouchers. Mean varies a lot less overall but more on a weekly basis due to lucky clusters of course.

if anything i would say in the last 7 days i have gotten above average on vouchers but thats just due to a cluster of three equip writs in the 50-100 voucher range which i just discount as part of the rare jackpots.

I have been running 12 equip masters and 24 consumable master a day since right after homestead launched them.
My v/d mode is 10, my mean is 14 and my median is now 9, was 10 but its borderline still. I have had only about six days with no masters dropping.

Earlier this week i dropped 6 equip per day just last week since they were not all that profitable on the three lowest achievements crafters and doing so sped up my daily writs by a lot and moved my mats costs to a more stable place.

So, no, not seeing any overall slowdown, just usual day-to-day skews one expects in a low probability RNG setup.

eso_nya · May 2017

Droprates r very jumpy. One toon managed 19 days in a row w/o a writ.

Afaik, dropchances for smith/cloth/wood r:
5% base + 0.01% for every achievmentpoint under general + 0.01% for every achievmentpoint under the respective craft
For Enchanting its 0.1% per enchanter-achievmentpoint, Provisioning is the cool kid, no idea bout alchy, didnt do those in more than a year.
Those r just the rates for getting a writ at all. Quality of the writ:
epic not nirn: ~68%
epic nirn: ~ 11%
legend not nirn: ~19%
legend nirn: ~2%
They dont seem like they r influenced by anything but rng.

Data of 2668 writs: (257 m-writs / 3822 vouchers); 3 days w/o a writ.
One mastercrafter: 51 m-writs / 686 vouchers (0.55 m-writs/day; 13.45 vouchers/m-writ)
6 alts w/ a bunch of reserch done (all on roughly same level):
lowest: 25 m-writs / 228 vouchers (0.27 m-writs/day; 9.12 vouchers/m-writ)
best: 38 m-writs / 855 vouchers (0.41 m-writs/day; 22.5 vouchers/m-writ) (f motifknowledge :P)

Worst week: 15 m-writs / 80 vouchers
Best week: 26 m-writs / 548 vouchers

Overall voucher contribution: Blacksmith: 42.46%; Clothier: 27.32%; Woodworker: 22.63%; Enchanter: 6.86%; Provisioning: 0.73%. I only do provisioning on one char, as they feel like nothing to loose, nothing to gain, bunch of free food-mats, where i got thousands of anyways.

Last two weeks werent great, but both, and even the current r above 80 (already).

Cêltic421 · May 2017

PlagueSD wrote: »

xXMichonneXx wrote: »

I am experiencing the opposite. I used to only get writs worth 2-5 vouchers and only about once or twice a week. The past week I've received 2-3 a day, worth anywhere from 20-100 vouchers. I'm not even kidding. I tested my new found RNG and skinned 57 fish----got 4 PERFECT ROE. Like WTF?

Screenshot, or it didn't happen..

How can you screenshot that?

TalonKnight · May 2017

Yep same here haven't gotten 1 in about 2 weeks.

Kiralyn2000 · May 2017

I've been wondering the same thing. I never got that many before (don't have a stable of master crafters), but I haven't seen one since.... before the anniversary? Or at least early in the anniversary. And I'd figured that my odds might actually improve, because I got a whole pile of new motifs from those prize boxes.

But, yeah. RNG. It's hard to tell for certain.

ForsakenSin · May 2017

Actually i noticed this as well, usually i get a vouchers and temper ect but for couple of days now i have only got one temper ONE ! i thought it was me because i changed my skill points ( placed them back 10/10) and i thought maybe that screwed up something but in a way im glad now to hear its not only me who noticed a huge drop.

xXMichonneXx · May 2017

Cêltic421 wrote: »

PlagueSD wrote: »

xXMichonneXx wrote: »

I am experiencing the opposite. I used to only get writs worth 2-5 vouchers and only about once or twice a week. The past week I've received 2-3 a day, worth anywhere from 20-100 vouchers. I'm not even kidding. I tested my new found RNG and skinned 57 fish----got 4 PERFECT ROE. Like WTF?

Screenshot, or it didn't happen..

How can you screenshot that?

After skinning the fish, at bottom left of screen was posted results: 4 perfect roe
57 fish
I was freaking out so didn't even think to screenshot. My guildie heard me scream in chat though lol

freespirit · May 2017

Guild mates hearing you scream totally count as proof

Cpt_Teemo · May 2017

0 writs again on all 8 chars, nice "Rng" (Rigged Number Generator)

LadyLethalla · May 2017

Astrid_V wrote: »

I'm sure it was stealth nerfed. Not the first time I spotted hidden nerfs in drop rates in this game.

I was getting a lot of them right after homestead update. Now after I researched a lot of new traits and complete many motif books, I stopped getting them. If I finally got some, it's usually for 2-7 vouchers.

I stopped doing them. Waste of time and mats.

Same. My Master Crafter on average gets maybe one or two 2 or 5 writ MW every three days or so (though she did get a 10 writ MW for 8 Psijic Ambrosia about 2 weeks ago). The last "decent" MW I received were on toons that know barely anything - and one was for 44 writs while the other was for something like 72 - and that's the most valuable MW I've ever gotten. The last big MW my Master Crafter received was I think 69 writs, and that was ages ago. And she learned several full motifs during and since the Jubilee Event.

Incidentally, those last two "high value" MW were received straight after I learned a couple of random Assassin's League pages on each of the toons.

So yes, I'm of the opinion that MW drops were nerfed.

And I also think that the Perfect Roe drops were nerfed too... I have something like 4000 unskinned fish in my Master (Crafter) Angler's inventory and I skinned well over 400 in one sitting and got NONE.

Linaleah · May 2017

puffytheslayer wrote: »

i have a 9 trait crafter that knows EVERY motif - and have NEVER recieved any writ

my other characters that know next top no traits or motifs receive writs all the time.

the drop rate of master writs is supposed to increase if you have more traits & moatives learned, clearly the coding is the wrong way around

i have raised this topic multiple times both here & on various social media platforms, submited bug reports all of which have been ignored.

this honestly seems to be the case. i started noticing marked difference around the time of the anniversary event. prior to event, I would get various crafting writs up to 100 vouchers. after? I'm getting alchemy on an alt that just has mac improvement unlocked, and my main who since learned a WHOLE bunch of motifs and researched more traits? gets nothing. wait. no. I got my first gear writ in weeks. for 7 vouchers

its just a tiny bit frustrating. a tiny bit. you know?

I honestly think something in coding for that event messed up the coding for master writ drop rates. because serously. with all the motifs/crafting achievements I have maxed out thanks to that event, i should be getting equipment writs more consistently instead of one measly 7 voucher in over a month.

LadyLethalla · May 2017

double post

MacCait · May 2017

Well, from these posts it seems I'm not alone.

No one I know is getting writs right now, so something appears to have happened

abigfishy · May 2017

How long has homestead been out?

I have three master crafters and do the writs most days.

In total I got 1 x 81 voucher master writ.
Around 10 for about 2-8 vouchers.

Gigantic waste of time and resources, but it is like a sick gambling addiction where every day I tell myself my luck has to change.

Nope.

Tan9oSuccka · May 2017

I agree, something is up. My master crafter has gone 7 days with getting only one worth a piddly two vouchers.

SnubbS · May 2017

Oh yeah—master writs have taken the hardest ninja nerf I've ever seen.