If you over penetrate the stat becomes superfluous.

What it means? GOOGLE IT!

Penetration is not a direct buff to your damage but rather a debuff to your enemy - well it's not a debuff per say but the idea is the same. So say they have 18k resist(which I think most bosses have about as much or even lower...may be wrong tho correct me please) and you have 15k pen. So your attacks work as if though they had 18-15=3k resistances. That's neat, gonna do much more damage than if they had 18k. Now let's say you have 25k penetration...technically it should result in 18-25 k resistances but since resistances can't possibly get negative it'll result in 0 resistance and the 25-18=7k penetration is just a stat wasted.

Now in PvP where your enemy can have all 35k resistances and you're unlikely to have full group penetration buffs it's a bit of a different story.

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

What does it mean, whats wrong with it

PULL OUT @bloodthirstyvampire, PULL OUT!

Wait, what?

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Am I the only one that read the title and giggled?

No, you're not.

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Talking about penetration and zero resistance XD this is sooo wrong on so many levels

How can we add more?

I was expecting something else....
ugh, me and my dirty mind

So I Googled it...

"A bullet passing through a threat and continuing with the potential to cause unintentional damage to a bystander or object is a situation commonly described as over-penetration. The occurrence could be a bad thing if you shoot someone who is attacking you while your wife is standing behind the attacker."

Surely I'm not the only one who isn't laughing rn?

That's what she said??

JESTERDAN wrote: »

All circles are 360 degrees BTW. Figure out why pi is 3.14 then you have mastered the circle my friend...

She said that also

Let me guess, she also said, "@JESTERDAN, you'll never master my circle," and then laughed, right?

Yeah lol didn't master that at all. She said a lot of other hurtful things after she realized my only joke is that's what she said. Judges don't like that line in family Court for some reason.. even when that's what she really said. Smh

I think this thread has gone down the hole...

Most enemies in pve have about 18,500 resistance to my knowledge. (Lets just say 18,000 for easy math.)

You can have "too much penetration" in group dungeons and trials. This is due to the debuffs being applied by your group members:

Tanks use Pierce Armor = Major Fracture and Major Breach which reduces physical and spell restance of your enemy by 5280 for 12 seconds.

Healers run Elemental Drain (Destruction Staff Tree) for resource management, but this spell also causes your enemy Major Breach (reducing spell resist by 5280 for 24 seconds.) You cannot stack Major Breach, but it is safe to say with tank and healer doing this, the group will see at least the Major Breach uptime being very high.

Also there are many passives and gear sets that reduce enemy resistance. I will not make a list, but I am sure you know which sets apply to the group NMG etc. and other sets like Spriggan or Spinners are great for solo play or PVP.

So lets say you are a magic based character wearing at least 5 pieces of light armor (Light Armor passive Concentration = about 5000 Spell Penetration. That is 5000 resistance subtracted from the 18,000 starting resistance.)

Using a Destruction Staff will give you a passive called Penetrating Magic "your destruction staff abilities ignore 10% of the enemies spell resistance. In this case 10% of 18k resist = 1800 spell penetration.

Using a Sharpened Staff = About 5,000 physical and Spell Penetration will be added to the total penetration.

So for example if you are wearing 5 piece light armor (5k penetration) and using a Sharpened Destruction Staff (5k penetration) then using Force Pulse which gives 1800 penetration in this case, you are not "overpenetrating". You would reduce your target resistance from 18,000 to 6,200. (18,000-11800 = 6,200.)

So in this simple example you see your personal penetration is 6,200 short of fully penetrating the enemy. However, If you are in any kind of group like I described above, then your tank already applied Major Fracture and Breach dropping or debuffing the enemy's resistance by 5280 for 12 seconds for your team.

Now if you added some champion points into penetration you could calculate how much penetration is "just right" for your build and application.

In PVP this all changes as heavy armor has become the "meta" so many dps are wearing 5 piece Black Rose etc, with 22k minimum resistance. This is where penetration becomes more difficult and a story for another thread.

I hope this helps. I am not good at math so I kept it as simple as I could.

Have fun,

Floki

Giggidy

that's what she said..

Couldn't help myself!