End of Dual Wielding Mag builds?
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Didn't I hear Wrobel talking about diversity in the latest ESO Live, funny thatlol. dual wield casting never made any sense anyway. so thats pretty perfect nerf.
zos finally man upping. i hope they keep it going like this. atleast the rage means all going right direction.
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If we all suck, regardless of what we do, then we can run whatever builds we want
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✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »let's just say "Battlemage"
Yeah but does it make sense for a battlemage to have all his attributes into Magicka and then be dual wielding swords?
The spell sword, battlemage archetype should be hybrid build not full magicka. These threads just make me think a lot of the people never wanted to move on from the old metas.
Where people put their attributes doesn't matter. As long as the character plays like a Battlemage, he is a Battlemage.Aldmeri Dominion Loyalist. For the Queen!0 -
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✭✭✭✭It's annoying that the have given Nerf over Nerf to Dual world (for Magika builds) there's no reason to attack a now niche play style
Sure some people don't like the idea of a mage with swords, who cares, you don't need to run it. It's niche now with the reduction in damage vs staff so why wipe it out totally. It's annoying.
Wizards with wands is dull, and with the lag on bar swap much harder to tell what bar u are on!
But in answer to your post, there will.be ways around it if you want to , for aure.
They didn't nerf DW in pvp this patch. They made you find ways to sustain outside of just CP, you can choose to look at that as "I need a staff for heavy attacks" or you can look at it as "what mechanics are available to allow me to keep this crazy damage and still sustain" and then you don't have to lose tons of DPS wasting time weaving heavy staff attacks.
Skills are the only reliable way to burst people, so design a build where you can still consistently spam abilities without needing to heavy attack and you'll be much more successful than making a build where you have to heavy attack regularly. Heavy attacks are already super unreliable if they're not resto, dw, or lightning staff.
This. So much.
I really don't understand all the tears and misconceptions around 'we have to heavy attack to sustain'. Its like nobody knows how to adjust their builds.. Worse even, nobody seems to consider that its even possible!
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GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭Thank you all for replying. Just for the record, I'm running 2 Skoria / 5 Rattle / 5 Spinner ( Dual Wielding + S/B). Infused with Prismatic Defense on big parts, and 2 divine and 2 imp on small parts, all with magicka gliphs. Thief mundus, Immovable potions and damage health poisons. It has been a bless. Just an amazing set up for magplars.
Though I'm sad this won't work any longer, I'm quite excited to work on new options ahead. I'm not sure if swaping spinner for lich or warlock will share sinergy with rattlecage, since will probably lack spell penetration. So, I'll most likely go for BSW + Lich, S/B on the back and destro on the front, and hope for the best. Maybe I'll even go after a maelstrom destro on the long run if I got the time and patience.
If you go bsw+lich, you can do 5 bsw armor, dual willpower swords, lich jewellery and lich s&b on back bar, that will be sort of best in slotPC/EU 800 CP.
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You do understand that typically, Battlemages actually used their weapons, not just held them in their hands?hmsdragonfly wrote: »stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »let's just say "Battlemage"
Yeah but does it make sense for a battlemage to have all his attributes into Magicka and then be dual wielding swords?
The spell sword, battlemage archetype should be hybrid build not full magicka. These threads just make me think a lot of the people never wanted to move on from the old metas.
Where people put their attributes doesn't matter. As long as the character plays like a Battlemage, he is a Battlemage.
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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✭✭✭✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
You do understand that typically, Battlemages actually used their weapons, not just held them in their hands?hmsdragonfly wrote: »stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »let's just say "Battlemage"
Yeah but does it make sense for a battlemage to have all his attributes into Magicka and then be dual wielding swords?
The spell sword, battlemage archetype should be hybrid build not full magicka. These threads just make me think a lot of the people never wanted to move on from the old metas.
Where people put their attributes doesn't matter. As long as the character plays like a Battlemage, he is a Battlemage.
Wut? I weave still...1 -
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✭DWon mainbar and resto/ destro on off bar. Perfection. Only players who wish to 1v10 players need a sword and board. To each his own plan on still running them but maybe running drinks instead of max mag food. Well see though0 -
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Wrobel said the opposite in a past ESO liveNeillMcAttack wrote: »Tbf, I don't think it was ever intended for dual wield to be used by magicka toons.
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✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
You do understand that typically, Battlemages actually used their weapons, not just held them in their hands?hmsdragonfly wrote: »stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »let's just say "Battlemage"
Yeah but does it make sense for a battlemage to have all his attributes into Magicka and then be dual wielding swords?
The spell sword, battlemage archetype should be hybrid build not full magicka. These threads just make me think a lot of the people never wanted to move on from the old metas.
Where people put their attributes doesn't matter. As long as the character plays like a Battlemage, he is a Battlemage.
Yes, like how a MagDK slashes his opponent with his sword to apply Burning Ember.Edited by hmsdragonfly on May 5, 2017 6:45PMAldmeri Dominion Loyalist. For the Queen!0 -
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✭lol. dual wield casting never made any sense anyway. so thats pretty perfect nerf.
zos finally man upping. i hope they keep it going like this. atleast the rage means all going right direction.
What are you talking about?
Raging customers equal right direction? Lol, what?
Unhappy customers aren't good for any business. Not sure how you could come up with the notion that unhappy customers are a good thing for Zos and eso.1 -
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✭Wanna be a MAGE - use a staff. Period.- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
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✭✭✭✭Here is what it comes down to, how many duel wielding magic users actually use their swords? Very, very few. They are effectively just hand ornaments.
I run S n B and the only time I use my sword is to proc my spell damage enchant. I may as well equip the broom.0
