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Q: DarkShade Caverns 2 - Normal

Cpt_Teemo
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How exactly does this 2 shot everyone on normal it shouldn't do this much dmg on normal, it seems like Vet+ HM dmg
  • IronCrystal
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    Which boss are you referring to?
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    Need to keep up HoT. I think. Both times I've been in it I've just seen people trying to headbutt the engine guardian to death.
  • Ep1kMalware
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    How exactly does this 2 shot everyone on normal it shouldn't do this much dmg on normal, it seems like Vet+ HM dmg

    Lmfao. you have a l2p issue, if you are getting 1 shot you are doing something stupidly wrong, but it's not like we can explain it tomyou like your 5 because you didn't tell anyone how, you just blamed the game.

    Tl;dr l2p. Hint: look at what killed you amd stop dying to it.
  • psxfloh
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    How exactly does this 2 shot everyone on normal it shouldn't do this much dmg on normal, it seems like Vet+ HM dmg

    uhm.. you know some attacks should be blocked? And don't stand in the red ! ;)
  • Magdalina
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    What is "this" and how exactly is it 2 shotting you? My telepathy isn't working very well today so I'd be able to help you better if you included more details :p
  • Zypheran
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    How exactly does this 2 shot everyone on normal it shouldn't do this much dmg on normal, it seems like Vet+ HM dmg

    Lmfao. you have a l2p issue, if you are getting 1 shot you are doing something stupidly wrong, but it's not like we can explain it tomyou like your 5 because you didn't tell anyone how, you just blamed the game.

    Tl;dr l2p. Hint: look at what killed you amd stop dying to it.

    You say 'l2p' but that is what the OP is trying to do by coming here and asking the community for advice, only to be met with derisory condescension like this.

    OP please give us some more details about how and where you are being killed so people can offer advice.

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  • Jciampi
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    Yeah.. We need to know what is killing you to teach you the mechanic you need to understand. Usually the biggest reason is listed. In normal dungeons few bosses have one shot one kill attacks. In veteran, just about every boss has one. You need to either a) block it or b) dodge it and get out of the AOE that's telegraphed before the boss does said move.

    Everyone struggles with this when you start vet dungeons. You'll get the hang of it. Don't fret. I still see DPS stay in bad AOE all the time in vet and watch them die. I just LOL now
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    The last bosses mechanic the poison cloud 2 shot us everytime before we can even reach the panels
  • Magdalina
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    The last bosses mechanic the poison cloud 2 shot us everytime before we can even reach the panels

    What panels? If you mean levers, I'm not even sure they're there on normal mode...are they? Either way it's a waste of time, it's the time to dps the boss safely. Have your healer spam Springs on you as you slowly follow the boss and dps him down ;) It's simply a healing check.
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    The last bosses mechanic the poison cloud 2 shot us everytime before we can even reach the panels

    What panels? If you mean levers, I'm not even sure they're there on normal mode...are they? Either way it's a waste of time, it's the time to dps the boss safely. Have your healer spam Springs on you as you slowly follow the boss and dps him down ;) It's simply a healing check.

    Yeah they're on normal the healer couldn't heal us through it cause they were level 20 and the poison damage seemd like Vet+ dmg.
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    The last bosses mechanic the poison cloud 2 shot us everytime before we can even reach the panels

    What panels? If you mean levers, I'm not even sure they're there on normal mode...are they? Either way it's a waste of time, it's the time to dps the boss safely. Have your healer spam Springs on you as you slowly follow the boss and dps him down ;) It's simply a healing check.

    Yeah they're on normal the healer couldn't heal us through it cause they were level 20 and the poison damage seemd like Vet+ dmg.
    Yes the engine guardian is annoying, easy to wipe on it even with high cp groups.
    Block during cloud don't attack, block reduce damage healer heal group so important to stay close.

    Boss is not tankable but do plenty of close range damage so do ranged attacks.
    tank should switch to DD setup.
    If some is melee only he focus on adds who also do plenty of damage.
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  • Magdalina
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    The last bosses mechanic the poison cloud 2 shot us everytime before we can even reach the panels

    What panels? If you mean levers, I'm not even sure they're there on normal mode...are they? Either way it's a waste of time, it's the time to dps the boss safely. Have your healer spam Springs on you as you slowly follow the boss and dps him down ;) It's simply a healing check.

    Yeah they're on normal the healer couldn't heal us through it cause they were level 20 and the poison damage seemd like Vet+ dmg.

    Why couldn't they though? Healing springs/whatever the unmorphed version is called is the first skill in the healing skill tree. It's very cheap to spam, Springs morph in particular is pretty much free. If your healer couldn't heal you through it on normal version then it sounds like your healer wasn't really healing, sorry:/
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    The last bosses mechanic the poison cloud 2 shot us everytime before we can even reach the panels

    What panels? If you mean levers, I'm not even sure they're there on normal mode...are they? Either way it's a waste of time, it's the time to dps the boss safely. Have your healer spam Springs on you as you slowly follow the boss and dps him down ;) It's simply a healing check.

    Yeah they're on normal the healer couldn't heal us through it cause they were level 20 and the poison damage seemd like Vet+ dmg.

    Why couldn't they though? Healing springs/whatever the unmorphed version is called is the first skill in the healing skill tree. It's very cheap to spam, Springs morph in particular is pretty much free. If your healer couldn't heal you through it on normal version then it sounds like your healer wasn't really healing, sorry:/

    They are only level 20 new to the game, and no CP at all so it is really hard tbh, also it appears they upped the poison damage since last time I played it months ago
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    The last bosses mechanic the poison cloud 2 shot us everytime before we can even reach the panels

    What panels? If you mean levers, I'm not even sure they're there on normal mode...are they? Either way it's a waste of time, it's the time to dps the boss safely. Have your healer spam Springs on you as you slowly follow the boss and dps him down ;) It's simply a healing check.

    Yeah they're on normal the healer couldn't heal us through it cause they were level 20 and the poison damage seemd like Vet+ dmg.

    Why couldn't they though? Healing springs/whatever the unmorphed version is called is the first skill in the healing skill tree. It's very cheap to spam, Springs morph in particular is pretty much free. If your healer couldn't heal you through it on normal version then it sounds like your healer wasn't really healing, sorry:/

    They are only level 20 new to the game, and no CP at all so it is really hard tbh, also it appears they upped the poison damage since last time I played it months ago

    If theyre just a level 20 with no champion points, then they really shouldnt be going into stage 2 group dungeons yet. Those are supposed to be higher difficulty than their stage 1 versions. If you guys are low level, stick to the easier dungeons, like Fungal Grotto I.

    But yeah maybe try what the other person said and block through the poison as the healer spams heals. If you can mitigate the damage then you should survive.
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  • Magdalina
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    The last bosses mechanic the poison cloud 2 shot us everytime before we can even reach the panels

    What panels? If you mean levers, I'm not even sure they're there on normal mode...are they? Either way it's a waste of time, it's the time to dps the boss safely. Have your healer spam Springs on you as you slowly follow the boss and dps him down ;) It's simply a healing check.

    Yeah they're on normal the healer couldn't heal us through it cause they were level 20 and the poison damage seemd like Vet+ dmg.

    Why couldn't they though? Healing springs/whatever the unmorphed version is called is the first skill in the healing skill tree. It's very cheap to spam, Springs morph in particular is pretty much free. If your healer couldn't heal you through it on normal version then it sounds like your healer wasn't really healing, sorry:/

    They are only level 20 new to the game, and no CP at all so it is really hard tbh, also it appears they upped the poison damage since last time I played it months ago

    You're getting crazy battle leveled at level 20 though, there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to heal through it. Were they using Healing Springs?
  • Koensol
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    You guys were probably spread out as hell, panicking all over the place. Have your group stack near the healrt on that phase and heal through the dmg. The tank can also support the healer by doing some off heals. It really shouldn't be a definite wipe.
  • sluske
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    How exactly does this 2 shot everyone on normal it shouldn't do this much dmg on normal, it seems like Vet+ HM dmg

    The gas does alot of damage, and If you are new/low levels this fight can be tricky.

    No need for a tank, try to stay together and dps boss at range. In blue phase try to get behind pillars and stuff to avoid lighting attacks from boss. Try to not get to far away from the middle, and when green phase hits pull levers as fast as possible. Burn the adds down together when they appear.

    First time I played this it was popping in random que and none of us had done it before, we were all new and low levels. It was a wipe fest until we had figured things out... but when we got a hold of things it went pretty smoth.

    keep on trying and all of a sudden it will click.
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    Best thing to do on these cases is leave them dead and solo it. Normal eg is easy. No healer required. Elitism ftw
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  • Ep1kMalware
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    Zypheran wrote: »
    How exactly does this 2 shot everyone on normal it shouldn't do this much dmg on normal, it seems like Vet+ HM dmg

    Lmfao. you have a l2p issue, if you are getting 1 shot you are doing something stupidly wrong, but it's not like we can explain it tomyou like your 5 because you didn't tell anyone how, you just blamed the game.

    Tl;dr l2p. Hint: look at what killed you amd stop dying to it.

    You say 'l2p' but that is what the OP is trying to do by coming here and asking the community for advice, only to be met with derisory condescension like this.

    OP please give us some more details about how and where you are being killed so people can offer advice.

    L2p is all that's left to be said when op ignores inquiries about the problem. Besides his thread carried the cadencd of a complaint and game blaming I don't think he's here to l2p.
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    zaria wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    The last bosses mechanic the poison cloud 2 shot us everytime before we can even reach the panels

    What panels? If you mean levers, I'm not even sure they're there on normal mode...are they? Either way it's a waste of time, it's the time to dps the boss safely. Have your healer spam Springs on you as you slowly follow the boss and dps him down ;) It's simply a healing check.

    Yeah they're on normal the healer couldn't heal us through it cause they were level 20 and the poison damage seemd like Vet+ dmg.
    Yes the engine guardian is annoying, easy to wipe on it even with high cp groups.
    Block during cloud don't attack, block reduce damage healer heal group so important to stay close.

    Boss is not tankable but do plenty of close range damage so do ranged attacks.
    tank should switch to DD setup.
    If some is melee only he focus on adds who also do plenty of damage.

    Don't block, don't block nonono. Kills ur regen. Only block if you must. Just stand under it and dps/heal. Kill adds time to time. Avoid being infront if it. Honestly I can't see anything in normal being a real threat. Perhaps richochet wave+poison.
    Edited by Ep1kMalware on May 5, 2017 10:58AM
  • Daemons_Bane
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    How exactly does this 2 shot everyone on normal it shouldn't do this much dmg on normal, it seems like Vet+ HM dmg

    Lmfao. you have a l2p issue, if you are getting 1 shot you are doing something stupidly wrong, but it's not like we can explain it tomyou like your 5 because you didn't tell anyone how, you just blamed the game.

    Tl;dr l2p. Hint: look at what killed you amd stop dying to it.

    Way to be a huge ***
  • Sleep
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    in normal the poison hit me for 6k per tick. for me that's 4 shot. but I have damage shield.
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