Learning motifs should grant those as Costumes

Koolio · May 2017

If you learn a full book of a style you should get that as a costume. Saw a picture of celestial style on Facebook and a friend was like this looks really cool. It does look great however crafted gear isn't all that good. I would love to run my set up maybe with monster helms or not but not have mixed matched gear. I want to look good killing people. This would also act a transmogrification.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · May 2017

I think this is an excellent idea. A+

starkerealm · May 2017

Yeah, I've thought the motifs should unlock... something, for awhile.

Voxicity · May 2017

Or a custom costume system where you buy a token (probably from the crown store, but at this point I wouldnt mind)

Take said token to a crafting station and then whatever you're wearing (except weapons) gets made into a costume that you can wear

At this point no one who gives the slightest care to end game will ever be seen in a helmet other than monster sets (except maybe healers but even then you're limited to daedric or possibly dro mathra motifs from the dropped sets)

Saturnana · May 2017

Awesome idea!

Koolio · May 2017

I might even buy some of these motifs from the crown store if it came with all three armor weights as costumes. Because 5k crowns for old styles that look great but crafted gear that doesn't perform well isn't worth it.

Cpt_Teemo · May 2017

What I suggested back in the past was if you learned the full motif you could make each individual piece and bundle up the 14 total pieces together to make one of those rune costume things to be able to sell to the public

Argawarga · May 2017

So the achievement for completing a motif set would reward players with a costume of that style... I really like this suggestion. This would allow us freedom of style, keep motif chapters valuable, and it wouldn't undercut the crown store.

How would the costume determine if you wanted light, medium, or heavy? Would you get all three as part of the reward?

Tyrobag · May 2017

A costume of just the motif wouldn't be a good way to go. It forces you to wear all the pieces at once, aka no creativity in armor design. A transmogrify, cosmetic armor slots, or fully customizable costume system is whats needed.

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Or a custom costume system where you buy a token (probably from the crown store, but at this point I wouldnt mind)

Take said token to a crafting station and then whatever you're wearing (except weapons) gets made into a costume that you can wear

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

What I suggested back in the past was if you learned the full motif you could make each individual piece and bundle up the 14 total pieces together to make one of those rune costume things to be able to sell to the public

These two ideas together would be amazing for crafters. You can design an armor set (colors and all) then activate a rune box, which takes what you're wearing and turns it into a costume in the box (obviously this would exclude monster helms). Then you can sell the box to someone else or use it yourself. Empty runeboxes could be sold for vouchers and they can sell BoP self-use-only ones in the crown store.

Koolio · May 2017

Argawarga wrote: »

So the achievement for completing a motif set would reward players with a costume of that style... I really like this suggestion. This would allow us freedom of style, keep motif chapters valuable, and it wouldn't undercut the crown store.

How would the costume determine if you wanted light, medium, or heavy? Would you get all three as part of the reward?

That would be ideal for the player. Or even make it an item from master writs. But something that can be sold for moderate value of gold. Maybe once you learn all pages you can buy a stone from the writ vendor. Or from a friends who has that style as well. Available to everyone easier for top tier crafters. They come out with 2-3 style a patch so like 12 a year but no one really uses those styles. I don't see people in full glass armor which looks great. Plus low level character seeing cool styles of gear makes them want to play and look cool too

Jollygoodusername · May 2017

Koolio wrote: »

If you learn a full book of a style you should get that as a costume. Saw a picture of celestial style on Facebook and a friend was like this looks really cool. It does look great however crafted gear isn't all that good. I would love to run my set up maybe with monster helms or not but not have mixed matched gear. I want to look good killing people. This would also act a transmogrification.

It's a great idea for players but from Zeni's business end, wouldn't that ruin chances for selling base assets as costumes in the crown store?

starkerealm · May 2017

Jollygoodusername wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

If you learn a full book of a style you should get that as a costume. Saw a picture of celestial style on Facebook and a friend was like this looks really cool. It does look great however crafted gear isn't all that good. I would love to run my set up maybe with monster helms or not but not have mixed matched gear. I want to look good killing people. This would also act a transmogrification.

It's a great idea for players but from Zeni's business end, wouldn't that ruin chances for selling base assets as costumes in the crown store?

To be fair, they've been doing a lot less of that lately.

Avalon · May 2017

Jollygoodusername wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

If you learn a full book of a style you should get that as a costume. Saw a picture of celestial style on Facebook and a friend was like this looks really cool. It does look great however crafted gear isn't all that good. I would love to run my set up maybe with monster helms or not but not have mixed matched gear. I want to look good killing people. This would also act a transmogrification.

It's a great idea for players but from Zeni's business end, wouldn't that ruin chances for selling base assets as costumes in the crown store?

Not really, think about how much the motifs cost vs the average costume. Z would make a killing from this, especially if they added a way to mix and match piece by piece.

Koolio · May 2017

Jollygoodusername wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

If you learn a full book of a style you should get that as a costume. Saw a picture of celestial style on Facebook and a friend was like this looks really cool. It does look great however crafted gear isn't all that good. I would love to run my set up maybe with monster helms or not but not have mixed matched gear. I want to look good killing people. This would also act a transmogrification.

It's a great idea for players but from Zeni's business end, wouldn't that ruin chances for selling base assets as costumes in the crown store?

I would probably buy the motifs if they had the costumes. Otherwise I won't even purchase pages from guild traders. Because there's almost no reason too.

How many motifs like Ancient Orc from the crown store for 5k do you think people buy. I wouldn't think it would be a lot.

Foehammer_76 · May 2017

I like this idea.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · May 2017

I know every motif in the game with the exception of a few SOTH dungeon motifs (still working) and both of the crown store exclusives. To be honest, it feels hollow. It doesnt really do anything for me. I admittedly wear mostly dropped sets, but even on the occasion where I want to wear crafted stuff, I am still forced to mix and match with dropped stuff, and it always looks terrible. I have a beautiful set of Heavy Seducer in Ebony. It looks so good until I pair it with a monster set...

(Sidebar: please make monster sets match other sets when they are dyed)

Not only would this increase the desire for motifs in game (a good thing for sure as they drop from all over the place), but it would also make people want to buy motifs in the crown store. I avoided the crown store exclusive motifs intentionally, but I probably would have bought them if I could make a costume.

The only downside is that it could potentially hurt costume sales, but if it boosts motif sales in the meantime, I dont see the big deal. Cool and unique costumes will still sell. There would also be a lot more diversity just walking around the streets of deshaan, which would be pretty nice to see.

Koolio · May 2017

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I know every motif in the game with the exception of a few SOTH dungeon motifs (still working) and both of the crown store exclusives. To be honest, it feels hollow. It doesnt really do anything for me. I admittedly wear mostly dropped sets, but even on the occasion where I want to wear crafted stuff, I am still forced to mix and match with dropped stuff, and it always looks terrible. I have a beautiful set of Heavy Seducer in Ebony. It looks so good until I pair it with a monster set...

(Sidebar: please make monster sets match other sets when they are dyed)

Not only would this increase the desire for motifs in game (a good thing for sure as they drop from all over the place), but it would also make people want to buy motifs in the crown store. I avoided the crown store exclusive motifs intentionally, but I probably would have bought them if I could make a costume.

The only downside is that it could potentially hurt costume sales, but if it boosts motif sales in the meantime, I dont see the big deal. Cool and unique costumes will still sell. There would also be a lot more diversity just walking around the streets of deshaan, which would be pretty nice to see.

This will also promote motif sales from crown store. Warden with frostcaster. Yes. Lowbie seeing a high ranking character that looks cool will make them want to be strong and cool looking too.

ButtersEP · May 2017

Crafting all the different styles is not realistic and this would be a great addition

Mitrenga · May 2017

I think that is the most logical suggestion that I have read in the forums lately.

seblatourneb18_ESO · May 2017

Learn a motif, get 3 costumes: full light, full medium and full heavy of that style

Changing a style for an item piece: consumes one mimic stone. Mimic stones you get from spending crowns. Win-Win for players and Zenimax. We get the pieces we like, they get some money. Should work with any pieces any style. Number of mimic stones can be more than one if they're greedy, I still would pay for that.

Quantity of work from Zenimax to implement this: next to zero.

Koolio · May 2017

If I could get my character looking like this while wearing the gear I like would be worth it.

Koolio · May 2017

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Koolio · May 2017

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Argawarga · May 2017

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

The only downside is that it could potentially hurt costume sales, but if it boosts motif sales in the meantime, I dont see the big deal. Cool and unique costumes will still sell. There would also be a lot more diversity just walking around the streets of deshaan, which would be pretty nice to see.

The costumes on the crown store tend to not be onobtainable via motifs, and many motifs end up on the crown store anyway. I don't think this would impact crown sales badly at all. At least as long as ZoS keeps cranking out costumes that are unrelated to motifs.

Also, I like the idea of looking at this as a Tamriel beautification project. The better we look, the more attractive the game appears to potential players.

This is a good thread

Queo · May 2017

I love this idea.

Quick question. The costume, would it be a one piece? Or are you thinking multiple pieces?

Koolio · May 2017

Queo wrote: »

I love this idea.

Quick question. The costume, would it be a one piece? Or are you thinking multiple pieces?

It would be easier to implement as the whole costume. But they might sell more if you could mix and match. People might buy a whole motif just for the chest piece.

My favorite thing in DCUO was wearing all my gear but changing the way I look regularly. I might spend all day looking for a style. We need something like this to be implemented for multiple reasons. It would have people buying crown motifs even at lower levels just to look decent.

Vaatuu · July 2017

Argawarga wrote: »

So the achievement for completing a motif set would reward players with a costume of that style... I really like this suggestion. This would allow us freedom of style, keep motif chapters valuable, and it wouldn't undercut the crown store.

How would the costume determine if you wanted light, medium, or heavy? Would you get all three as part of the reward?

Could have the option to choose, then you would need to collect the full motif set on 3 characters.

LinearParadox · July 2017

People have been asking and begging for something like this for ages, and the siutation has only gotten worse as drop-sets have begun to outclass crafted sets in a myriad of ways.
People have tons of motifs, tons of people want to USE motifs, and now they're even selling exclusive motifs for real money... and there's largely no way to use them either than crafting vanity sets to wear around town.

People have been asking for this for years, many going so far as to say they'd PAY for a recrafting system, a motif conversion system, a polymorph system, etc... nothing. We get nothing.

But hey, those new crown store items sure never miss a release date

Waffennacht · July 2017

LinearParadox wrote: »

People have been asking and begging for something like this for ages, and the siutation has only gotten worse as drop-sets have begun to outclass crafted sets in a myriad of ways.
People have tons of motifs, tons of people want to USE motifs, and now they're even selling exclusive motifs for real money... and there's largely no way to use them either than crafting vanity sets to wear around town.

People have been asking for this for years, many going so far as to say they'd PAY for a recrafting system, a motif conversion system, a polymorph system, etc... nothing. We get nothing.

But hey, those new crown store items sure never miss a release date

Didn't they say something about a transmog system coming?

dodgehopper_ESO · July 2017

Everything about crafting lately feels like a heroic waste of time.

dusk194 · July 2017

Nice idea, i'd just rather have full transmog on the armor and weapons motif that i've collected. A costume would not allow me to mix and match, nor would it effect weapon skins