Poll: How much do you care about lore

Duiwel · May 2017

I care somewhat. I prefer they stick with lore, but would forgive them for adding something awesome so long as they can provide a reasonable explanation for it.

My opinion is why I hope in a few years we get drake mounts

Tranquilizer · May 2017

I don't care at all. Add whatever.

SnubbS wrote: »

Can't even put into words how much I don't care. Games are games, they're meant to be fun.

^^THIS so much. If a game is fun I'd play it, otherwise I don't or move on.

FloppyTouch · May 2017

I don't care at all. Add whatever.

Bc they can change or add anything at anytime bc magic, lore to me means nothing at all. One day they can be like well orcs are not real a mage used magic to trick everyone it to thinking they where a real race.

People that say dragons are not around well pfffft MAGIC now they are!

Dracindo · May 2017

I care a lot. Don't add anything new to the game unless it has been in a previous game, or mentioned in a lore book.

There were dragons in a previous game, and along with your poll option, it's safe to add dragons in a lore-friendly way in this game! And unicorns.

theher0not · May 2017

I care somewhat. I prefer they stick with lore, but would forgive them for adding something awesome so long as they can provide a reasonable explanation for it.

I'd prefer them staying to the lore most of the time, but I don't think ut should ever get in the way of good gameplay and balance. So if they have to go against the lore in order to make the game better I think they should.

Cadbury · May 2017

I don't care one way or the other.

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Bc they can change or add anything at anytime bc magic, lore to me means nothing at all. One day they can be like well orcs are not real a mage used magic to trick everyone it to thinking they where a real race.

People that say dragons are not around well pfffft MAGIC now they are!

Agreed. Any developer can use any excuse to add whatever they want. In the end, it's their world. We're just playing in it.

Don't get it twisted. I like the lore we have now. But any day now, something else will be added to change what is established. And the only reason they'll give is "just because".

I'm seriously shocked they haven't had a Fallout/TES crossover yet...

FloppyTouch · May 2017

I don't care at all. Add whatever.

Cadbury wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Bc they can change or add anything at anytime bc magic, lore to me means nothing at all. One day they can be like well orcs are not real a mage used magic to trick everyone it to thinking they where a real race.

People that say dragons are not around well pfffft MAGIC now they are!

Agreed. Any developer can use any excuse to add whatever they want. In the end, it's their world. We're just playing in it.

Don't get it twisted. I like the lore we have now. But any day now, something else will be added to change what is established. And the only reason they'll give is "just because".

I'm seriously shocked they haven't had a Fallout/TES crossover yet...

Plot twist fallout takes place in a crystal in the mages guild

Gargath · May 2017

I care a lot. Don't add anything new to the game unless it has been in a previous game, or mentioned in a lore book.

I really dislike the recently added mounts from atronach crate. For me they are against the ES lore and I avoid players using those.

Cadbury · May 2017

I don't care one way or the other.

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Bc they can change or add anything at anytime bc magic, lore to me means nothing at all. One day they can be like well orcs are not real a mage used magic to trick everyone it to thinking they where a real race.

People that say dragons are not around well pfffft MAGIC now they are!

Agreed. Any developer can use any excuse to add whatever they want. In the end, it's their world. We're just playing in it.

Don't get it twisted. I like the lore we have now. But any day now, something else will be added to change what is established. And the only reason they'll give is "just because".

I'm seriously shocked they haven't had a Fallout/TES crossover yet...

Plot twist fallout takes place in a crystal in the mages guild

And Deathclaws are mini clones of Molag Bal from a secret Enclave experiment.
Also, Sheogorath created The Institute.

Does it make me weird that I want all this to be true?

Betheny · May 2017

I mostly don't care, but I might be upset if they added something that was extremely out of place

I draw the line at little girl races with upskirt cams.

Rickter · May 2017

I care somewhat. I prefer they stick with lore, but would forgive them for adding something awesome so long as they can provide a reasonable explanation for it.

lore is what makes a game. its what sets it apart from other redundant fantasy genre games.

if you can feel invested in the world, characters, etc, then you're just going to end up with a very shallow experience.

Jayman1000 · May 2017

I care somewhat. I prefer they stick with lore, but would forgive them for adding something awesome so long as they can provide a reasonable explanation for it.

Your vote options is not as well distinguishable as I 'd like them to be. I care a lot about the lore. I still very much stop and read interesting books in game when I come by them and read all the quest text; just as I did in all other Elder Scrolls games. But I still chose the second option that they can add new content. However, that new content should be consistent with existing lore; whether that holds true could of course be subjective and a matter of opinion.

Elsonso · May 2017

I care a lot. Don't add anything new to the game unless it has been in a previous game, or mentioned in a lore book.

The Lore exists to justify what ZOS and Bethesda want to sell in the Crown Store, specifically Crown Crates. It used to be to justify what the Studio wanted to do with the game and provide cohesion between different games, and parts of games.

(Edit: and for some reason, I clicked on the wrong option. Drats. I care somewhat. I prefer they stick with lore, but would forgive them for adding something awesome that compliments existing lore, so long as they can provide a reasonable explanation for it.)

Seems that Lore exists now so that they can justify reskinning the horse, senche, camel, bear, and guar into whatever Flavor of the Quarter needs to be in a Crate.

Sinkas · May 2017

I don't care at all. Add whatever.

couldn't care less.

DeadlyRecluse · May 2017

I care somewhat. I prefer they stick with lore, but would forgive them for adding something awesome so long as they can provide a reasonable explanation for it.

I consider ESO lore to be a living document, I guess : P

But in all seriousness, there is a *bit* of a knee jerk tendency to dismiss anything without precedent as lore-breaking, when it's really just making new lore. New things that directly contradict lore are more troubling, of course.

There is also a common tendency to assume that all lorebooks/dialogue/etc. is true: if an eso development contradicts, say, a book from skyrim people tend to insist that the eso thing is lorebreaking, and the random book from skyrim is correct. This always strikes me as a bit ridiculous, as though it's impossible for a book to be in error.

Betheny · May 2017

I mostly don't care, but I might be upset if they added something that was extremely out of place

Cadbury wrote: »

*yoink* stole your pic. I'll be sure to put it somewhere inappropriate.

coop500 · May 2017

I mostly don't care, but I might be upset if they added something that was extremely out of place

Lore is good, it adds some sense to everything which is nice. But it shouldn't shackle fun either. History changes, things are not always correct, records get destroyed so sometiems one thing seems like another in reality. I mean look at our real world, our 'lore' changes because people find out new things. People are still finding animals that they thought were gone, we are still finding old places from the past to investigate and so on.

grizzledcroc · May 2017

I care somewhat. I prefer they stick with lore, but would forgive them for adding something awesome so long as they can provide a reasonable explanation for it.

I enjoy it a lot and im greatful for how expanded the world is with ESO . Plus in any case like what people have said , they couldnt ever account to what games they made in the future so stuff changes all the time. Its gonna be a doozy when Dwemer mounts are shown for the first time xD

stevenbennett_ESO · May 2017

I care somewhat. I prefer they stick with lore, but would forgive them for adding something awesome so long as they can provide a reasonable explanation for it.

I care about lore quite a bit, actually... but as with *every* Elder Scrolls game you must be aware that what we call "lore" is a fluid term. All the information we have about ALL the lore in ALL the Elder Scrolls games is from the viewpoint of an NPC in those games, and thus may be their own spin on the facts, may have some of the facts wrong, may be simply opinion instead of fact, or may be a deliberate attempt to change the "truth".

This is deliberate and dates back to the beginning -- you can point to just about any element of the lore and it's possible to trace that back to the writing or spoken statement of an NPC in one or more of the games. How much credence you give to those NPCs is up to you, but think carefully -- remember that "lore" may be written by people like Lady Clarisse Laurent, and may be subverted, modified, time shifted, or otherwise perverted by entities like Sheogorath. And that's okay.

What that means to me is that yes, I love the lore. I like finding out more lore. But I'm okay when any of the Elder Scrolls games (including ESO) deliberately or accidentally contradicts that lore. I'm okay if the explanation isn't obvious, or is open to different interpretations. Because that's what lore is - people's interpretations of what actually happened, and sometimes it's just plain going to be wrong.

Balamoor · May 2017

I care a lot. Don't add anything new to the game unless it has been in a previous game, or mentioned in a lore book.

They need to keep it a Elder Scrolls game and make certain the lore fits

Mordenkainen · May 2017

I care a lot. Don't add anything new to the game unless it has been in a previous game, or mentioned in a lore book.

You don't just lift the house and swap the foundation stones.

There's so much of the actual lore they have never added to the game, yet they invent new crap no one has ever seen before and I am fairly certain some people in 4E and 3E really miss those books that traveled back in time for reasons not even Magnus would know.

timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO · May 2017

I don't care one way or the other.

All that have to do with exploation and achivment system in this game/ and any other out there are 100% crap

LadyLavina · May 2017

Would be okay if crude repeating crossbows were a thing

Would not be okay if Blunderbusses were a thing

Would be okay if some sort of industrial/manufacturing dwemer facility was discovered

Would not be okay if the entire game progressed to some sort of Industrial Revolution era.

Totally fine with EP/AD races banding together.

Don't understand how or why the DC races would ever band together, much less under Victor from Underworld lol

ANGEL_BtVS · May 2017

I care somewhat. I prefer they stick with lore, but would forgive them for adding something awesome so long as they can provide a reasonable explanation for it.

I think it's cool to follow the lore for the most part, but one area I would like to see it ditched is with racial passives. Let Nords be magical wizards. Let Altmer be beastly tanks. In a single player game the racial passives make more sense, but in an MMO just let everyone play any race any way they want without penalizing them. Just because one race tends to be the best at certain skills doesn't mean there aren't one-offs from other races. And everyone's individual character is a one-off.

KochDerDamonen · May 2017

I care a lot. Don't add anything new to the game unless it has been in a previous game, or mentioned in a lore book.

To the arguments amounts to 'the developers can do whatever they want, so it doesn't matter'.

Yes, the developers can release a game with any qualities at all. That means literally nothing, it's a half-baked statement of the reality of the situation. The second half of the thought is something along the lines of '...and if it's ridiculous nonsense or broken, the developers should prepare for a change in playerbase for better or worse.'

ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »

I think it's cool to follow the lore for the most part, but one area I would like to see it ditched is with racial passives. Let Nords be magical wizards. Let Altmer be beastly tanks. In a single player game the racial passives make more sense, but in an MMO just let everyone play any race any way they want without penalizing them. Just because one race tends to be the best at certain skills doesn't mean there aren't one-offs from other races. And everyone's individual character is a one-off.

@ANGEL_BtVS To us coming from the singleplayer titles, it makes even less sense. The only time racials ever make a huge difference in TES outside of ESO is the early-game first few levels, and arguably in some games altmer/breton had a scaling impact because they affect one's max magicka on a multiplier. There was also no people to compete with, so it didn't matter if you did things slightly faster or slower

ThePonzzz · May 2017

Poll option lacks proper choices. I care a lot. But it doesn't need to be in a previous game. Lore can be created.

DjMuscleboy02 · May 2017

I don't care at all. Add whatever.

Fix disconnects and server lag, then we can talk about adhering to lore. But so help me god if mol stays broken and another patch rolls around where dogs tongues have been slightly shaded to make them more realistic, I might put my head through my desk

Acrolas · May 2017

Most of the issues people have are more Prequel issues than Elder Scrolls issues.

People expect more explanation in a prequel to justify the prequel existing in the first place. Otherwise, why deal with a prequel when you can just move the story forward? And that's probably why WoW was so successful. It wouldn't have worked as a prequel. It took everything everybody already knew from the series and then propelled that in new and interesting directions so that fans would stay engaged for years to come.

But people also forget that single-player games have a myopic view of the world at large. It mimics real life subjective experience. You don't know everything about your world. There are customs and practices going on this very day that you are unaware of because you either don't know, don't care, or they don't align with your own beliefs and desires so you purposely avoid discovering them.

Just because something was never explicitly stated in a single-player Elder Scrolls game does not mean it does not exist. It just didn't exist in a way your character could discover or engage with it.

But because it's a prequel, you expect future engagement from what you have recently discovered or engaged with in the past/present. Because again, prequels have to have importance, either in discovery or exposition.

So it's not really about caring about lore. Lore is interesting even in a limited scope such as a single scene or story.
ESO still has a questionable historical relevance, where your passive protagonist has things happen to him or her every few months. It's not historically engaging, which is why the Elder Scrolls timeline always enters the relevance argument disguised as a lore argument.

DaveMoeDee · May 2017

I care somewhat. I prefer they stick with lore, but would forgive them for adding something awesome so long as they can provide a reasonable explanation for it.

This game will end up with more content than all other TES games, so it is okay for them to expand on lore. But they should avoid breaking it.

Browiseth · May 2017

I don't care one way or the other.

lore, backstory and writing exists to serve the game, not the other way around

pretentious people who like to pretend video games are more than video games tend to forget this

i am also against sticking to what has been previously established like it's some kind of religion, otherwise how on earth are new and interesting things going to be added?