Lets face it now, the best games have the most bugs
Blockz888
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Lets face it now, the best games have the most bugs
Dont u think it interesting how we complain on and on, but keep coming back.
I think this an interesting thought
Dont u think it interesting how we complain on and on, but keep coming back.
I think this an interesting thought
Leader of The Werewolf Legion, DC WW PVP Guild for Azura, we either pvping or training for pvp. If interested in joining send me an invite, brutiss.
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Every game has bugs, it's down to each individual to judge how much those bugs matter to them.
Generally I have issues here and there and report and work towards having them improved, but otherwise I just play the game and have fun.
That's not to say ZOS should never work on fixes, but I think people who believe in a "perfect" game are going to come to a very harsh conclusion after a few years of gaming.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."0 -
drakhan2002_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Bugs... ALL but the most simple software has bugs in it. Unfortunately anything made by a human is not going to be perfect. Fact of life we all have to live with and will have to live with unless we stop using computers...0 -
LadyLavina✭✭✭✭✭
✭While I agree with this somewhat, I would probably just say that bugs should be expected in enormous games, particularly when those games are online and complex.
PC - NA @LadyLavina 1800+ CP PvP Tank and PvP Healer0 -
Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭please explain the Witcher 3 then; objectively one of the best games to have come out recently, and after 52 hours of playing i've had one of the smoothest and most bug free experience in any game of recent memory
this isn't an interesting thought at all, there's no invisible relation between bugs=/=quality going on here, it's a fact that more bugs = less qualityskingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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Blockz888✭✭✭There are too many bugs in this worldLeader of The Werewolf Legion, DC WW PVP Guild for Azura, we either pvping or training for pvp. If interested in joining send me an invite, brutiss.0
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Blockz888✭✭✭please explain the Witcher 3 then; objectively one of the best games to have come out recently, and after 52 hours of playing i've had one of the smoothest and most bug free experience in any game of recent memory
this isn't an interesting thought at all, there's no invisible relation between bugs=/=quality going on here, it's a fact that more bugs = less quality
Yeah but I bet u played eso more than that game.Leader of The Werewolf Legion, DC WW PVP Guild for Azura, we either pvping or training for pvp. If interested in joining send me an invite, brutiss.0 -
SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
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NotLets face it now, the best games have the most bugs
Also, it would be nice to have some examples of this instead of hiddenly licking "you_know_who" butt- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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Blockz888✭✭✭
Dark Spore a exampleLeader of The Werewolf Legion, DC WW PVP Guild for Azura, we either pvping or training for pvp. If interested in joining send me an invite, brutiss.0 -
WalksonGraves✭✭✭✭✭
✭Elderscroll/Fallout games have some of the worst records for never fixing bugs, hence the "Unofficial patch" being a required download just to get a game that works as intended. Luckily ESO has different devs and the rage of paying players that they can't completely ignore like with single player games.0 -
Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »Bugs... ALL but the most simple software has bugs in it. Unfortunately anything made by a human is not going to be perfect. Fact of life we all have to live with and will have to live with unless we stop using computers...
Darn, why you tell me that? Now I'll be wondering what bug is in the air traffic control software.0 -
Cêltic421✭✭✭✭drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »Bugs... ALL but the most simple software has bugs in it. Unfortunately anything made by a human is not going to be perfect. Fact of life we all have to live with and will have to live with unless we stop using computers...
Several things made by humans are perfect... Maybe not in technology area.1 -
Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭please explain the Witcher 3 then; objectively one of the best games to have come out recently, and after 52 hours of playing i've had one of the smoothest and most bug free experience in any game of recent memory
this isn't an interesting thought at all, there's no invisible relation between bugs=/=quality going on here, it's a fact that more bugs = less quality
Yeah but I bet u played eso more than that game.
that's irrelevant. the Witcher 3 is a quality, premium single player experience
eso is an enjoyable timesink that is nice for filling in the gaps
games aren't simple like you're trying to imply, and it's very clear you're not 'seasoned' gamer (and by extension, have no idea what you're talking about) because of thatEdited by Browiseth on May 2, 2017 5:08PMskingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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Nemesis7884✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭the bigger and more complex a game is the more buggs it is prone to have
but youre making the assumption that bigger/more complex = better and i don't agree with that - some of the simplest games are sometimes the most fun - because they have at first sight a simple mechanic... take chess for example0 -
SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
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We are talking about MMOs here, right?- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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Blockz888✭✭✭I was talking in general not specific to mmo's
haha im not a good discusserLeader of The Werewolf Legion, DC WW PVP Guild for Azura, we either pvping or training for pvp. If interested in joining send me an invite, brutiss.0 -
Blockz888✭✭✭Muramasa89 wrote: »
haha :PLeader of The Werewolf Legion, DC WW PVP Guild for Azura, we either pvping or training for pvp. If interested in joining send me an invite, brutiss.0 -
Inquisitor_Wind✭✭✭i remember archeage , was a beautiful game with amazing features , how it fell from the top cuz of devs0
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DMuehlhausen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭please explain the Witcher 3 then; objectively one of the best games to have come out recently, and after 52 hours of playing i've had one of the smoothest and most bug free experience in any game of recent memory
this isn't an interesting thought at all, there's no invisible relation between bugs=/=quality going on here, it's a fact that more bugs = less quality
You even stated though. most bug free..which implies there are bugs. On top of that Witcher 3 isn't online. Once you put games online like this and multiple systems all have to start interacting together things will start having issues.0 -
SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
✭I was talking in general not specific to mmo's
haha im not a good discusser
Then, I would say, that best games have less bugs and even if they has some, they gets fixed incredible fast with extremely low downtime or even without one.- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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drakhan2002_ESO✭✭✭✭✭drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »Bugs... ALL but the most simple software has bugs in it. Unfortunately anything made by a human is not going to be perfect. Fact of life we all have to live with and will have to live with unless we stop using computers...
Several things made by humans are perfect... Maybe not in technology area.
I'd love to know some examples of "several things made by humans that are perfect". I can't think of anything that is made by humans that is perfect.0 -
Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DMuehlhausen wrote: »please explain the Witcher 3 then; objectively one of the best games to have come out recently, and after 52 hours of playing i've had one of the smoothest and most bug free experience in any game of recent memory
this isn't an interesting thought at all, there's no invisible relation between bugs=/=quality going on here, it's a fact that more bugs = less quality
You even stated though. most bug free..which implies there are bugs. On top of that Witcher 3 isn't online. Once you put games online like this and multiple systems all have to start interacting together things will start having issues.
my point is that games aren't simple, and i really have no idea what point OP is trying to make soskingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »Bugs... ALL but the most simple software has bugs in it. Unfortunately anything made by a human is not going to be perfect. Fact of life we all have to live with and will have to live with unless we stop using computers...
Several things made by humans are perfect... Maybe not in technology area.
I'd love to know some examples of "several things made by humans that are perfect". I can't think of anything that is made by humans that is perfect.
@drakhan2002_ESO these chocolate brownie type things with a sort of sponge cake inside that i buy from tesco every now and then could be defined as "perfect"skingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I laugh when I hear people complaining about ESO bugs, because I've played games with a LOT worse bugs than this.
Gotta squash 'em when they appear, but yeah ... I've seen so much worse.0 -
KingMagaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭Every game has bugs.
The smart developers place an incentive to finding these bugs by players to get a cheap solution.
The cheaper solution is to have players police your game.
The cheapest solution is do nothing yet the worst solution i think is to:
Not perma-banning cheating and exploiting. The more players you catch with running 3rd party software and exploiting in game and dont perma-ban simply increases the amount of Cheaters you attract into the game, exponentially so.
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