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Maelstrom Arena Weapon on Normal
diabolick90
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Hi,
Maybe is a stupid question, but after i search enough on google i want to ask here because i am not clear with this.
Maelstrom Weapons drop in normal mode?
Some players say yes others no.
What is the truth?
Maybe is a stupid question, but after i search enough on google i want to ask here because i am not clear with this.
Maelstrom Weapons drop in normal mode?
Some players say yes others no.
What is the truth?
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Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would be ok with them dropping in blue gear on normal, with one rule that they cant be upgraded and enchanted pass its dropped form.0 -
Arkadius✭✭✭✭✭
✭Artemiisia wrote: »I would be ok with them dropping in blue gear on normal, with one rule that they cant be upgraded and enchanted pass its dropped form.
Which would make them useless anyway.
I'd be fine if there was at least a chance, like 33% or so, to get a weapon in normal mode.4 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭Artemiisia wrote: »I would be ok with them dropping in blue gear on normal, with one rule that they cant be upgraded and enchanted pass its dropped form.
Which would make them useless anyway.
I'd be fine if there was at least a chance, like 33% or so, to get a weapon in normal mode.
not really, since many/most people cant finish the vet version of it, and dont care about having the BiS meta build all the time0 -
diabolick90✭✭Yeah, every content in game need to have a difficulty but is wrong that only few players can finish this.
And i got that ``try harder``, this is wrong because most players have a job, and take a lot of time to learn that dungeon and finish it on veteran, and more time to farm the set to can do it.2 -
CultOfMMO✭✭✭i went into vMA on a saturday morning, beat it by sunday night.
i was CP 274 khajit stamblade
so time spent really isnt a factor, quality time not quantity, evaluate your deaths dont bang your head blindly against the wall.
CP isnt a factor, class isnt a factor, race isnt a factor. Like yea people have beat it with much lower CP but most of those have already mastered it before hand. As it stands the number of 1st time clear below CP300 is pretty low. And I couldnt have picked a harder class setup if i wanted to.
gear could be a factor? I didnt have VO, so not really.
Just solid awareness of mechanics and understanding of my class.
nowadays its not uncommon to see CP600 magsorcs with perfect gear asking for advice on first clear cuz they're stuck forever, while I had literally every single factor possible stacked against me and still cleared it.
so yea, if it really comes down to that, I'd say its perfectly okay only 1 out of 1000 people should hold those weapons, cuz clearly they need to be earned, and clearly they can be earned. not quite sure why 99% of the population have an excuse for being unable to clear it, and want it tuned, or drop in normal. you dont deserve them, period.vHoF HM 202k Tick-Tock Tormentor (Stamblade)
vAS HM 111k Immortal Redeemer (Magplar)
vCR HM 129k Gryphon Heart (Magblade/plar)
vSS HM 245k NA 2nd Godslayer (Stamcro)
Magblade vMA 601k1 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i went into vMA on a saturday morning, beat it by sunday night.
i was CP 274 khajit stamblade
so time spent really isnt a factor, quality time not quantity, evaluate your deaths dont bang your head blindly against the wall.
CP isnt a factor, class isnt a factor, race isnt a factor. Like yea people have beat it with much lower CP but most of those have already mastered it before hand. As it stands the number of 1st time clear below CP300 is pretty low. And I couldnt have picked a harder class setup if i wanted to.
gear could be a factor? I didnt have VO, so not really.
Just solid awareness of mechanics and understanding of my class.
nowadays its not uncommon to see CP600 magsorcs with perfect gear asking for advice on first clear cuz they're stuck forever, while I had literally every single factor possible stacked against me and still cleared it.
so yea, if it really comes down to that, I'd say its perfectly okay only 1 out of 1000 people should hold those weapons, cuz clearly they need to be earned, and clearly they can be earned. not quite sure why 99% of the population have an excuse for being unable to clear it, and want it tuned, or drop in normal. you dont deserve them, period.
Also Gilliam beat it with the broom and bucket
Say no more
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭diabolick90 wrote: »Hi,
Maybe is a stupid question, but after i search enough on google i want to ask here because i am not clear with this.
Maelstrom Weapons drop in normal mode?
Some players say yes others no.
What is the truth?
They don't. When I said they could earlier tonight I wasn't thinking about nMA. I'm honestly not sure what I was thinking about, it's been a long night.0 -
GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭Artemiisia wrote: »I would be ok with them dropping in blue gear on normal, with one rule that they cant be upgraded and enchanted pass its dropped form.
Which would make them useless anyway.
I'd be fine if there was at least a chance, like 33% or so, to get a weapon in normal mode.
It would be fine? You can clean normal mode without any weapons, using just 1 skill - how is having 33% is fine? Are you not the sharpest tool in the box?
No weapons in normal mode.
If you can't complete VMA - you don't need these weapons.PC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq0 -
bebynnag✭✭✭✭✭
✭ive suggested this before - so now i will say it again
if they do introduce vma weapons on normal they should drop at CP150, and only available with the training trait!0 -
nowadays its not uncommon to see CP600 magsorcs with perfect gear asking for advice on first clear cuz they're stuck forever, while I had literally every single factor possible stacked against me and still cleared it.
I call this bull. I had done vMSA at least 30 times with my stamina DK and it took a lot to get the clears down to 2.0-3.0 hours per run (with about 15-30 deaths per run)
Last week I tried with my pet sorc for the first time. I did my first run for 45 minutes with only 1 death. It is easy as just spamming 3AOE spells and making sure that shields are applied if you know the mechanics. So basically with a pet sorc it is as easy as doing a normal 4 man dungeon.2 -
Arkadius✭✭✭✭✭
✭Valera Progib wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »I would be ok with them dropping in blue gear on normal, with one rule that they cant be upgraded and enchanted pass its dropped form.
Which would make them useless anyway.
I'd be fine if there was at least a chance, like 33% or so, to get a weapon in normal mode.
It would be fine? You can clean normal mode without any weapons, using just 1 skill - how is having 33% is fine? Are you not the sharpest tool in the box?
No weapons in normal mode.
If you can't complete VMA - you don't need these weapons.
No, I'm just not as selfish as you. It's a game, so why should I care if some "noob" get's a good weapon. Getting the right weapon would still be an endless grind.2 -
GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭@Arkadius I am selfish because I invested my time to VMA and you want to get that in easy mode? - omg so selfish, call the police...
As I said before, if you can't complete VMA - you don't need VMA weapons as your low DPS is not due to not having a VMA weapon.
PC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq3 -
Mordenkainen✭✭✭✭I mean.. I get the whole idea about VMA weapons to be earned and how everyone loves to be the top 5%... I'm sittig in round 9 on my first vet clear attempt currently myself and I definitely feel rather good about it.
But, if normal maelstrom arena would give <something> that wouldn't be wrong though. No VMA weapon mind you, but maybe a wrothgar motif page as someone else suggested already or 10 refined crafting ressources.. really something that makes this worth just a little bit past the weird set item drops you get in there. I see little motivation for people to run normal save for getting acquainted with it.Edited by Mordenkainen on May 2, 2017 5:23PM0 -
GDOFWR420✭✭✭✭They should just give you the enchant, so you can put it on the weapon of your choice.2
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MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭Nah they shouldn't drop on normal, you gotta work for bis gear! Altho i wouldnt mind if the bad traits where removed or a token system implemented. No one wants a defending, powered, decisive dagger/destro/bow etc so why have them in the game!0 -
CultOfMMO✭✭✭rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »nowadays its not uncommon to see CP600 magsorcs with perfect gear asking for advice on first clear cuz they're stuck forever, while I had literally every single factor possible stacked against me and still cleared it.
I call this bull. I had done vMSA at least 30 times with my stamina DK and it took a lot to get the clears down to 2.0-3.0 hours per run (with about 15-30 deaths per run)
Last week I tried with my pet sorc for the first time. I did my first run for 45 minutes with only 1 death. It is easy as just spamming 3AOE spells and making sure that shields are applied if you know the mechanics. So basically with a pet sorc it is as easy as doing a normal 4 man dungeon.
okay...? congrats on not being part of the brain dead population. But is your point that only magsorcs are capable of doing vMA smoothly? are you trying to say that no matter how skilled you are, other builds are just not meant to faceroll vMA?
also, for someone who cleared vMA at least 30 times i dont know how it took you so long to do it on a magsorc, a PET magsorc at that. 35 min is the norm, 40 min is insanely pushing it, and 45....but w/e thats minor details
my argument might have seem like an extreme end of a spectrum just for the sake of making a point, but no as sad as it is, you do see those people I mentioned on forums, or subreddit. Seemingly perfect setup, but just could not accomplish the simple task that is vMA.
vHoF HM 202k Tick-Tock Tormentor (Stamblade)
vAS HM 111k Immortal Redeemer (Magplar)
vCR HM 129k Gryphon Heart (Magblade/plar)
vSS HM 245k NA 2nd Godslayer (Stamcro)
Magblade vMA 601k0 -
amasuriel✭✭✭✭rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »nowadays its not uncommon to see CP600 magsorcs with perfect gear asking for advice on first clear cuz they're stuck forever, while I had literally every single factor possible stacked against me and still cleared it.
I call this bull. I had done vMSA at least 30 times with my stamina DK and it took a lot to get the clears down to 2.0-3.0 hours per run (with about 15-30 deaths per run)
Last week I tried with my pet sorc for the first time. I did my first run for 45 minutes with only 1 death. It is easy as just spamming 3AOE spells and making sure that shields are applied if you know the mechanics. So basically with a pet sorc it is as easy as doing a normal 4 man dungeon.
okay...? congrats on not being part of the brain dead population. But is your point that only magsorcs are capable of doing vMA smoothly? are you trying to say that no matter how skilled you are, other builds are just not meant to faceroll vMA?
also, for someone who cleared vMA at least 30 times i dont know how it took you so long to do it on a magsorc, a PET magsorc at that. 35 min is the norm, 40 min is insanely pushing it, and 45....but w/e thats minor details
my argument might have seem like an extreme end of a spectrum just for the sake of making a point, but no as sad as it is, you do see those people I mentioned on forums, or subreddit. Seemingly perfect setup, but just could not accomplish the simple task that is vMA.
Normally I try to be pretty calm in tone of the forums, but you are simply, factually wrong.
Under 30 minutes or less, with no deaths, no sigils is a perfect 600k score
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE4AyxrhLqM for example
which only a handful of people in the game have ever done.
40 minutes or so with some sigils and a death is still something like 560+, which yeah can see from the leaderboards on PC/NA puts you with the top 50 sorcs in the game.
35 minutes no deaths or sigils is 590
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7J9la9bhQ8
which is the top handful of sorcs each week on the leaderboards.
So saying 35 minutes is the norm is not only silly, it's demonstrably false. Just look at the leaderboards, see how many sorcs are over 560 even during a given week. It's not a lot of people.
Edited by amasuriel on May 2, 2017 7:56PM1 -
IronCrystal✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah I think the timings of 45 minutes being bad is off, but honestly the person taking 2-3 hours per clear just has no idea how to use their character or doesn't really understand vMA.Make PC NA raiding great again!
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DMuehlhausen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Artemiisia wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »I would be ok with them dropping in blue gear on normal, with one rule that they cant be upgraded and enchanted pass its dropped form.
Which would make them useless anyway.
I'd be fine if there was at least a chance, like 33% or so, to get a weapon in normal mode.
not really, since many/most people cant finish the vet version of it, and dont care about having the BiS meta build all the time
Then why would you be doing MA in the first place?0 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'd be fine with a small chance for a MA weapon drop on normal, if normal wasn't so unbelievably easy to complete. You can potato through normal in about 40 minutes without knowing much about your class or the mechanics.Daggerfall Covenant
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